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Any arboreal experts out there? (Someone who knows about trees, rather than someone who knows about other stuff and [i]lives [/i]in a tree...)

I'm trying to identify two trees in the garden - my guess is that they are both Ash trees but it's a poorly-educated guess. Leaves look like this:

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8071771809/ ]DSC04125[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr

Top one is from a young tree, bottom from a mature one. The leaves look the same to me, though the bark is different in appearance.

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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8071770115/ ]DSC04124[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr

Undersides.

Any ideas?


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:42 pm
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To help identify it, cut a branch off and burn it.

Then it will definitely be ash.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:44 pm
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Mint


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:45 pm
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Groan... 😀


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:45 pm
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Beech.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:46 pm
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Stuart, there is a wee Collins tree identification book on amazon, really good.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:47 pm
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Yep.

They're definitely off a tree, alright.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:48 pm
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Are there serrations on the leaf edge? Even tiny ones?


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:49 pm
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No visible serrations, like with Beech leaves.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:53 pm
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Goat Willow/Pussy Willow?


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:55 pm
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If the leaves grow on either edge of the twig opposite each other it could be Ash.

This is a good site to identify a tree:[url= http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/INFD-5G2KV3 ]Forestry Commision[/url]


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:55 pm
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Does the tree have black buds and the branches a slightly upswept appearance? Are the leaves compound leaves (your leaves are actually leaflets - part of a bigger multi-leafed leaf)? Yes to those would suggest Ash.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:57 pm
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They look a bit like Grey Willow leaves, except for the serrations.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:58 pm
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Look like some variety of willow as druidh suggests.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:58 pm
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They're not ash, difficult to tell without the whole branch could be Beech or Elm, if the trunk of the tree has a smooth bark, the type folk carve their initials in easily then it's beech, elm has a rough trunk.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 8:59 pm
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They don't seem to be leaflets as suggested by grittyshaker, which rules Ash out.

Goat or Pussy Willow seems a good match though.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:01 pm
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Not beech or elm. That's for sure.

When druidh mentioned willow it chimed straight away.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:04 pm
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Certainly a willow as Druid says. How about a pic of the whole tree


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:10 pm
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Common ash or pussy willow?


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:15 pm
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Will get a pics of the trees and their bark tomorrow, Sharki.

Bit dark right now.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:18 pm
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Grey willow it aint.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:19 pm
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Beech


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:20 pm
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It's not; Ash, Chestnut or Horse Chestnut, Elm,(has serrated edges my mistake)Rowan, Sycamore,Oak, Poplar, or Willow (which has long thin leaves)which are all common trees to uk gardens, Beech does get used as a hedge as well, difficult to really tell without seeing the bark which is an instant give away. Other than that I don't know, my tree knowledge is the distant memories of a boy scout, could be just a shrub.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:28 pm
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Larch?


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:32 pm
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[img] [/img]

http://www.keele.ac.uk/arboretum/trees/species/goatwillow/


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:36 pm
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They are definitely not Beech trees. I could add FACT to this assertion to make it incontrovertible.

Pussy/Goat Willow is the most likely so far, but I'll need to get a good look at them in daylight to confirm.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 9:44 pm
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Lack of scale not helping.
Doesn't look like ash, cut enough down today.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 10:03 pm
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Looks like a salix to me, prob goat willow.


 
Posted : 09/10/2012 10:25 pm
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You need to post more pictures of the tree, including branch, trunk and complete tree.


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 11:30 am
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They look a bit like Prunus, the cherry family, to me. Does the bark on the main branches have rings around it, lighter in colour and raised?


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 11:45 am
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Looks like goat willow to me too..

Got one in my garden. Grows about 2m per year!! Comes in handy though as I collect all the 2m new growth sticks each year, save them in the shed and a year later have perfect dry fire starting material.


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 11:51 am
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I suspect one is a goat willow, one is an ash... Show leaves on a branch and some bark and that will help...


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 11:58 am
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If it ever stops raining, I'll get some more photos...


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 12:12 pm
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looks like a willow to me, def not beech or ash or elm etc. Could be some kind of damson or gage type thing but not convinced.


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 12:31 pm
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OK - here we go. Apologies for out-of-focus shots - it was pishin' doon.

Tree 1 - mature:

[url= http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8093481674_ca648ac767_z.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8093481674_ca648ac767_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8093481674/ ]tree1_whole[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr

[url= http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8093481356_6305ffcab4_z.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8093481356_6305ffcab4_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8093481356/ ]tree1_bark2[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr

[url= http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8093475467_47e152fcd9_z.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8093475467_47e152fcd9_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8093475467/ ]tree1_leaves[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr

[url= http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8326/8093475347_631298c377_z.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8326/8093475347_631298c377_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8093475347/ ]tree1_bark[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr

Tree 2 - young:

[url= http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8093481450_41fcce0835_z.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8093481450_41fcce0835_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8093481450/ ]tree2_bark[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr

[url= http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8093475731_42ffec842c_z.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8093475731_42ffec842c_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8093475731/ ]tree2_leaves[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr

I'm fairly certain they are the same species - over to you guys...


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 12:53 pm
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I'm a furniture maker and can identify timbers fairly well when in board material. Could you cut them both down and plane up a few boards, then I can help...


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 12:56 pm
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Number 1. The larch. The larch.


 
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Definitely goat willow from the bigger pic


 
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Posted : 16/10/2012 1:02 pm
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I'm a furniture maker and can identify timbers fairly well when in board material. Could you cut them both down and plane up a few boards, then I can help...

Jeez - you lot are demanding! Right, that's the last I'm doing today...

[url= http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8472/8093519304_4a4f6522b6_z.jp g" target="_blank">http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8472/8093519304_4a4f6522b6_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/stuartie_c/8093519304/ ]DSC04200[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/stuartie_c/ ]stuartie_c[/url], on Flickr


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 1:06 pm
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gean wood


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 1:21 pm
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[url= http://www.pitreaviegolfclub.co.uk/hole-12-gean-wood-2 ]Gean Wood?[/url]


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 1:30 pm
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Is that wood infected with phytophthora ramorum? 😉


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 1:32 pm
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Don't think so. Anyway, It'll be going on the stove once it has dried out.


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 1:37 pm
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Stu - only joking 😉


 
Posted : 16/10/2012 1:44 pm
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