[Closed] Training and diet talk...

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I wasn't keeping it that low Ian, probably more like 75%. Got a bit excited for the last 3k and stepped up the pace to about 4:30min/Km.

the death crawl

I was doing that at about 4am Sunday morning. I went and did my Boxing training last night. Cleared my head right out; but then woke up this morning feeling worse.

So you feel better after training and worse after recovery?

I think you know what to do...

Yes, but you have to explain the 'how' bit in 'how to react'...

but then woke up this morning feeling worse.

Rubbish dirty... above the neck you can train, below the neck, abstain.

Picking up a bottle from the ground defeated me though!

Crikey! Maybe my comapct frame would come in handy!

IME it makes the cold last longer and is silly.

My PT was training a client last night in KBs, she was doing a one handed KB swing and stepping sideways into a squat. Any idea what its called?

Edit, the closest i got was about 5cms away from reaching the bottle. Didn't enjoy that as much as the contact drills though.

we learned how to react if we got elbow/shoulder barged

Now maybe I'm not an experienced roadie, but I reckon if someone elbowed me they'd get a good solid shove back. Or a smack in the face.

You could always spray them in the face with a bottle. Or if you are skilled you could reach over and pull their brake cable on the top tube.

Or a smack in the face.

Here comes the internet tough man 😉

Your road racing career would be pretty short live I reckon Molly.

What path is the KB swung along Dirty? I can't quite envisage what your describing...

Lol Mol 😆 You'd take the bunch down if you shoved them back which isn't the idea! Was pretty scary and cool in equal measures riding with bars touching and leaning on each other, going to practise that one a lot.

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Take a lesson from this kid.

One thing I can't stand is stupid argy bargy. Get on and ride your bloody bike ffs, stop trying to throw your weight around 🙁

Puts me right off road racing if people are going to tw*t about like that.

Maybe there's an advantage to being 50% heavier than most of the rest of the pack after all.

Maybe there's an advantage to being 50% heavier than most of the rest of the pack after all.

That you get to stay with the pack for 90% less time??

I'll elbow your scrawny arse into the bushes no bother.

I love argy bargy though Mol.... I'd be in my element... teeth an' elbows!!!

Actually, I think the only time you'd see me would be for a kamikaze t-bone take out on a corner, probably only the first corner.

[i]One thing I can't stand is stupid argy bargy.[/i]

Me too, put me off football for this reason.
No need for it.
Just
[i]Get on and ride your bloody bike[/i]
imo.

[i]Puts me right off road racing if people are going to tw*t about like that[/i]
I have a friend who use to ride in the national team scene.
Contact in the peleton is de rigueur, it would seem.
But subtly different from causing a crash.

Apparently, in them olden days, when gear levers were on down tubes.
It was practised by some to change your gear for you....

I think the swings/squats were done as a one arm swing, then taking a step out to the right/left to go into a sumo squat as the KB came down, and then as it came up again, moving legs into usual position for KB swing. But i didn't want to watch to closely and i'm not getting any more PT sessions til the off season so i was going to read up on it, but need to know what its called before i can find it!

There's a lot of people out there with poor bike handling skills in a bunch so it pays to know how to react if you get bumped into or similar - otherwise you'd be down. Suspect if i was in an argy bargy bunch i'd be in the bushes though as it was ok when it was a girl of similar height/weight to me, but with a bigger bloke who is stronger... I nearly went down on Saturdays chaingang when the bloke in front of me stopped without warning, i clipped his wheel big time, thankfully i managed to swing off to the side and unclip rather than coming off. Nearly set a new max hr though! 😯

[i]I nearly went down on Saturdays chaingang when the bloke in front of me stopped without warning, i clipped his wheel big time, thankfully i managed to swing off to the side and unclip rather than coming off. Nearly set a new max hr though[/i]

Then hes a **** !.

no braking in the pack please.
If you need to slow, just reach out and lean on the chap in front.
No one wants to bring the whole pack down.

So you feel better after training and worse after recovery?

I think you know what to do...

I need to go shopping with my grandma tonight though.

What a nice boy I am

above the neck you can train, below the neck, abstain.

I have been told this by a ENT doctor.

[b]Day 7[/b]
Ham, eggs and salami
Tub of salad leaves, chorizo, celery, etc with balsamic
Leftover chilli and sweet potato

One week in, my weight's pretty much where it always is but I look leaner and feel good, but I didn't have any weight to lose. The wife lost about 6 pounds. We've been eating pretty much the same.

I ended up making a load of these last night...

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Energy bars made of lentils... gotta love that. The bit I tried was pretty damn tasty too.

are those lentils dry/raw? they look it.

They look wrong though

[i]but I didn't have any weight to lose[/i]

Which is why although I have seen your posts, a diary of what you're iEating.
I failed to understand what your goal was ?, until.
[i]I look leaner and feel good[/i]

[i]They look wrong though [/i]

Not to the paranoid exercise addict and general allround exercise mental person.
They don't.

The one's lying around are... you cook them a bit before adding them to the mix though.

Lentils
Rolled oats
chopped nuts
dried fruit
almond flower
peanut butter
honey
chocolate chips
seeds (I forgot to add these to mine)
cocoa powder

Who're you calling paranoid Solo 😆

[i]Who're you calling paranoid Solo[/i]

Sorry TSY, but you couldn't stop if you wanted to.
I don't want to, but I worry you are / going to, hurt yourself.

But never mind, carry on.

Lentils
Rolled oats
chopped nuts
dried fruit
almond flower
peanut butter
honey
chocolate chips
seeds (I forgot to add these to mine)
cocoa powder

mixed together and shaped in a manner which they will almost certainly look like upon there exit.

Sorry TSY, but you couldn't stop if you wanted to.

hmmmm... I don't think you know me that well.

Out of curiosity TSY how well will those energy bars fair in the back pocket of your jersey?

That's an interesting point alex.

I made them initially for eating at work and as a snack, but... I reckon that wrapped in clingfilm, or inside a press-seal sarnie bag they'll be fine. Not really sure what the consistancy will be like on this first batch.

[i]hmmmm... I don't think you know me that well. [/i]

Well, whos loss is that ?.
😉

Well, whos loss is that ?

Clearly yours Solo. TSY can make food what looks like poo and tastes like chocolate and honey. That is a skill that should only lead to accolades of the highest order.

[i]I am aware that I have used the word what incorrectly in that sentence and ting.[/i]

Which is why although I have seen your posts, a diary of what you're iEating.
I failed to understand what your goal was ?, until.
[i]I look leaner and feel good[/i]

I can eat pretty much what I want and not get above 11 1/2 stone, despite pretty much doing no exercise apart from a 5 mile a day bike commute and being vaguely active. But, being iDiet 'aware' in food choices got me down to a smidge over 11 stone.

I do long rides with minimal training, so being lighter helps. It's easier to lower weight than to increase power 🙂

I'm also asthmatic and allergic to various stuff, so cutting out/down dairy and wheat has always been something I've been thinking about doing and this gave me a structure to doing that. Too early yet to see whether this is having an effect though.

[i]TSY can make food what looks like poo and tastes like chocolate and honey.[/i]
😆

Those bars look great STY. Is there a recipe on line somewhere with quantities and some instructions?

Is there a recipe on line somewhere with quantities and some instructions?

Yes. Why don't you type 'home made lentil energy bars' into google? I wonder if you can find the exact picture that TSY used for his post?

Thanks for your "help" 🙄

If anyone cares, it's [url= http://bsinthekitchen.com/homemade-gluten-free-lentil-energy-bars-perfect-for-marathon-runner-fuel-or-grab-go-breakfast-2/ ]here[/url]

Thanks for your "help"

Sorry but I felt sarcasm was necessary. I already looked up the recipe and I was going to put it up then I realised other people should be capable of using the internet search engine google.

oddjob - I went a bit freestyle with the ingredients. With the base of lentils, oats, peanut butter and honey I reckon you can add what you want... the almond flour might be key for the binding process, which I substituted for finely ground almonds.

Not sure what you two have got against them... you seen what commercially available bars look like?

How many glitches on this thread ????.

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Not sure what you two have got against them... you seen what commercially available bars look like?

I have nothing against them; though you must admit they do look a bit poo like'. Yes commercially available bars look bad but I don't buy or eat them. I am despite the look of these bars contemplating making some.

Hence why I wrote;

I already looked up the recipe

I sure that word begins with a 'g' and an 'l'?

I'll let you know what they taste like later Alex.

Here's what I've just done down the gym...

It's a modified 300 KB workout.

5 mins warm up on the cross trainier.

25 x V-Ups
50 x snatches (single arm 16kg)
25 x press-ups
50 x swings (single arm 16kg)
50 x burpees
50 x deadlifts (16kg in each hand)
50 x mountain climbers

5 min rest on the cross trainer

3 sets of;

6 death crawls
10 single leg box jumps (each leg)
10 single leg step downs (each leg)
10 Calf raises (each leg)
10 hamstring curls on the swiss ball

Finish off with 25 x hollows, some pull ups and some stretching.

50 x snatches

LLTSY

[i]Here's what I've just done down the gym...[/i]
I hope you've showered afterwards.

And I thought I was confused before...

The deadlift thing.
[i]each hand[/i]
I'm very confused.
I deadlift using along bar with weight at each end.
Its flippin dificult to lift.
You certainly wouldn't be 50x my deadlift.
What are you doing ??.