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I had an early E36 325i coupe with LSD, would've been a good track car

That's what I went to the Nurburgring in, albeit a 328i. Great car for the job, superb fun.
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Posted : 29/04/2014 10:05 am
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Looks like fun!

My Ibiza Cupra is due for an upgrade soon. I'm in two minds whether to sell it, or take it for a few track days and thrash it within an inch of its life.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 10:31 am
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Rammed at work at the moment but I need to book another trackday in May. I'll have a look at dates over the weekend. Probably a weekday around the middle of the month.

Can't leave it too late as I've got a Euro Tour at the begining of June.


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 12:26 pm
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My little pocket rocket.

200bhp mountune spec engine, exhaust bits n bob, coilovers and lighter alloys. Not much done inside, just taken trim out to reduce weight.

Nothing to extreme just something to have fun in!


 
Posted : 29/04/2014 1:34 pm
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Milkie, enjoyed your Puma run round 'Combe. Is that a 1.7 Zetec, and what's happened to your door trim?
I was watching the open-top go off, I've seen many, many people do that at Quarry, guaranteed to bite you in the ass if you're not careful...

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open top lost its wheel![/url](1:53 onwards) Saw it being brought back to the pits, I couldn't believe that it didn't do any bodywork damage, the guy was lucky.
Yea the Puma is 1.7, totally standard on that video except for the FRP airbox mod and being completely stripped bar the dash. We had brake fade in the afternoon and now have ST150 brakes to go on as well as 4-2-1 manifold, sports cat, exhaust, inlet manifold and FRP cams. Also put a race battery behind passenger seat. The only thing that lets it down at Combe is the power.

If anyone is doing a track day at Combe, let me know and I'll see if I can make it. 😉

The guy driving that Astra... Bonkers! 😉


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 9:01 am
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SBD build a great engine! I've seen a lot in single seaters and GT's at Combe, lovely sounding!!

The Clio will be a great little car, no plans to uprate the brakes? Or just planning on some higher performance pads?

While we are posting Castle Combe Quarry pictures 🙂
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Me in the #3, it's bumpy on the right! Best tip is not to try and get it left while on the brakes at the left apex which is also a rise, always spits you off left. Just aim for the right hander and pitch it right 🙂


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 9:18 am
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The Clio will be a great little car, no plans to uprate the brakes? Or just planning on some higher performance pads?

We used to run Ferrodo DS3000's in the Alfas, they were a great pad, so it'll be racing fluid and new pads all round. Should be good enough.

Me in the #3, it's bumpy on the right! Best tip is not to try and get it left while on the brakes at the left apex which is also a rise, always spits you off left. Just aim for the right hander and pitch it right

We used to brake a little just before the left kink, and then nail the throttle over he rise to pull the car through and then brake again into the right hander 🙂 Easy corner to get wrong, often with disatrous consequences, and loads of witnesses on the bank to see it all!


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 11:32 am
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That's the line line I take CBMotorsport, not that I am an experienced racer whatsoever! I can see why people crash as it is tempting to not brake until after the left Apex, but then we all know what happens to those cars! 😯


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 11:48 am
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Yeah that'll do it, especially with all the weight you're getting out of it.

The Single seater is a fair bit lighter I guess so you can get away with coming off the power a little as you turn left back on it 100% once it's on the apex then nailing the brakes and sorting it out down 2 gears while trying to maintain the momentum into it.

Quarry is a nice corner to stamp on the power as soon as you're on the apex though, no feeding in the power business, plenty of tarmac to use and kerb on the exit. Not sure how that would go down with the new rules though...


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 12:31 pm
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I once spun my car into the corn field in the middle of the circuit at Combe. I completely disappeared got it going again, found reverse, reversed out and carried on. Must of been hilarious as a spectator.


 
Posted : 30/04/2014 1:04 pm
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Small update:

Clio failed then passed it's MOT today. I have a very sympathetic MOT tester, he passed it with some official advisories, and then gave me a list of unnoficial advisories. But the good news is, it's solid and safe.

Failed on:

Headlight Beam
No side light
Number plate light
Faulty hazard switch

Needs: new lambda sensor ideally (emmissions were a bit high), rear discs and pads, corroded and binding slightly. All on order and to be fitted as aprt of a big service when I get the car back from having it's belts done.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 11:28 am
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High emissions... Are you not going to de-cat for the track?


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 1:54 pm
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Are you waiting for another car cbmotorsport? 😕

I was too but ended up cancelling!!


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 2:19 pm
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If we are going to do Coombe pictures, this is me circa 98 [img] [/img]


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 2:34 pm
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Ah the joys of track days. Did a few in my old mk2 golf.

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If memory serves me right this was 2003 when it was running around 300bhp from an audi TT engine with quaife 6speed box and ATB diff to get the power down.

Only thing I miss is the running costs.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 2:57 pm
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I stuffed my old honda s2000 into the barriers at Quarry, dented every panel on the drivers side.


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 6:09 pm
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We used to brake a little just before the left kink, and then nail the throttle over he rise to pull the car through and then brake again into the right hander Easy corner to get wrong, often with disatrous consequences, and loads of witnesses on the bank to see it all!
😆
Too damn right! That's why everyone gathers there, you've got a good view from Camp Corner into the Start/Finish, losing the cars from Folly up Avon Rise, then a big gaggle tearing into Quarry, which is always fun!
Farm Straight, The Esses and Old Paddock can catch the unwary, too; I've seen someone get a Fiesta horribly out of shape, roll, and somersault into the air, with obviously disastrous results to the car's integrity!
Milkie, what plans for more poke? There was an FRP down my road one day, and I was talking to the owner, he'd taken it out to the Nurburgring, and his was showing 200bhp on the dyno.
Wish I still had mine. 🙁


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 6:35 pm
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I might have a very cheap lambda sensor for you in the next week or so if you're interested? Pretty sure that a 182 one will do a 172


 
Posted : 01/05/2014 6:51 pm
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CountZero, we have a lot of bits to be fitted, FRP cams, 4-2-1 manifold & exhaust, custom inlet manifold, FRP ECU map (remove torque limiter, raise rev limiter and slightly better grunt) & ST150 brakes, AP coilovers. Still have more stuff to remove, seats, parts of the dash, brackets, etc.

The problem at the moment is we don't have time, I'm helping strip and rebuild a couple of pinto engines, one will be a turbo'd pinto, the other on twin 45's, big head/cam'ed and my mate is currently half way through rebuilding his V8 for his Capri. So we probably won't get to fit all the bits until near the end of summer. Hopefully the cars will be running for RS Combe (5th July), just maybe not finished.

I have been tempted to buy an FRP Puma, quite a nice looking car and they will go up in value as there was only 500'ish made, but it gets very expensive with the Yamaha engine to get any extra BHP out of them.


 
Posted : 02/05/2014 8:51 am
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Are you waiting for another car cbmotorsport?

I was too but ended up cancelling!!

I don't understand? Sorry if I'm being dim..!


 
Posted : 02/05/2014 9:26 am
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I might have a very cheap lambda sensor for you in the next week or so if you're interested? Pretty sure that a 182 one will do a 172

Legend - that would be great. Is it a new one or used?

Cheers


 
Posted : 02/05/2014 9:27 am
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High emissions... Are you not going to de-cat for the track?

Maybe at some point. I'll concentrate on the stopping and handling aspects for now. I'll keep everything mechanical standard for now, although the car does have a stainless exhaust (cat back)


 
Posted : 02/05/2014 9:30 am
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Not a particularly good pic, but this started as a very original GTi, turned track day car, turned full on mod-prod hill climb and sprint missile… 20 or so years ago now. My, how time flies. It was great fun but a total money pit! 8)

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Posted : 02/05/2014 9:38 am
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200bhp mountune spec engine, exhaust bits n bob, coilovers and lighter alloys. Not much done inside, just taken trim out to reduce weight.

satchm00 - what coilovers do you run on that Ford?


 
Posted : 02/05/2014 9:46 am
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Thanks, thanks very much. Thanks to this thread and rekindling my dreams of taking the ovlov to the track one day I'm now significantly poorer than I was a few days ago. FMIC, 3"DP, SS Exhaust, Intake piping and panel filter, ecu spacer, Inlet plenum and tune ordered.
+90bhp -lotsofmoney...


 
Posted : 02/05/2014 9:54 am
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Track day to go with the track bike... nice! Looks like an RR4-7 generation fireblade

Surprising number of people with lots of man toys, as well as mountain bikes

good thread


 
Posted : 02/05/2014 10:49 am
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Well, this thread has and is going to cost me a lot of money. Just purchased a focus st 170 as a base car for my project.....


 
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I might have a very cheap lambda sensor for you in the next week or so if you're interested? Pretty sure that a 182 one will do a 172
Legend - that would be great. Is it a new one or used?
Cheers

It's used and coming with a CAT. I need the cat but not the sensor, so I'll let you know how things go. Will be very cheap anyway


 
Posted : 02/05/2014 10:25 pm
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[b]And so it begins!![/b]

Had a little delivery today, new rear discs and pads, oil filter and spark plugs, a new powerflex gear box mount, and a towing eye.

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Car has had new cambelt, aux belt, water pump, dephaser pulley, tensioners etc and the small oil leak on the selector shaft of the gearbox has been sorted.

This weekend, I'll give it a full service, sort the knackered gearbox mount and then the real fun starts!


 
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I don't understand? Sorry if I'm being dim..!

Not you posting on Briskoda then?


 
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I see your brakes and raise you:

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I wish I could entirely blame this thread but the Volvo tuning bug had me long ago 😛 😛 😛


 
Posted : 09/05/2014 7:28 pm
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I once spun my car into the corn field in the middle of the circuit at Combe. I completely disappeared got it going again, found reverse, reversed out and carried on. Must of been hilarious as a spectator.

Ha! Saw that happen several times, back when I used to go helping out on a breakdown truck, one poor driver got completely lost in the corn, had to get out of the car to try to find out which way the track was; bloody funny when this crash helmet suddenly popped up in the corn! He'd actually gone quite a way in, so hadn't the foggiest idea which way to go.
Used to really enjoy it when the driver went off in a huff and left the car, so I got to sit in and 'drive' it back to the pits behind the truck. Great fun when you're still at school.


 
Posted : 09/05/2014 8:08 pm
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Brilliant! The beginning, let the build begin! 🙂

Nice floaters! O-h-h


 
Posted : 09/05/2014 9:53 pm
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Not you posting on Briskoda then?

lol. yes thats me. sorry. didn't put 2 and 2 together. about to cancel. 🙁

how come you cancelled?


 
Posted : 09/05/2014 10:10 pm
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see your brakes and raise you:

you need these for the extra weight!!


 
Posted : 09/05/2014 10:17 pm
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you need these for the extra weight!!

Hehe it's a Volvo, it's not the lightest car to start with especially as there is approximate 5tonnes of trim and the current calipers weigh a tonne too so I doubt I'll notice!! :p

I do however think its wise since I'm up'ong the push from 220bhp to 300+!


 
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hi mark

yes mate that is chips car.

I read your post just after I posted mine and remembered a mark iirc you worked for goodridge ? you had a black pulsar and im sure you were having problems killing gearboxes

Yeah still working there and still own the gti-r, had it for nearly 12 years now 😯

I killed a few gearboxes over the years, its got a 2.3 stroker engine in now so had to upgrade to a quaife box to cope with the extra torque. Its currently off the road waiting for a new turbo/manifold set up, im aiming for around 450-500bhp this time!

Was it your astra that had the every bit of excess metal chopped away? Didn't the doors used to flop around when you opened them 😆


 
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If we are going to do Coombe pictures, this is me circa 98

Is that a Chimera?

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Not a particularly good pic, but this started as a very original GTi, turned track day car, turned full on mod-prod hill climb and sprint missile… 20 or so years ago now. My, how time flies. It was great fun but a total money pit!

I love mk1's.

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And so it begins!!

At least you have rear discs. Samy has drums until next week. Got bigger 'Cossie' brakes up front though.

Off to Snetterton on Thursday. Last hurrah for the rear drums before they're swapped out next week. Can't wait.


 
Posted : 12/05/2014 2:53 pm
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[b]Update[/b]

The car has 16" Speedline Turini's fitted as were standard on the 172 Cup. There's a vast difference in price between 15" and 16" track tyres, and very little diference in performance. So I set about finding a set of 15" wheels.

Occasionally, Ebay throws up a bargain, and here they are:

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Pretty hideous, badly painted, out dated, 15" alloys from a Mk1 Clio 16v. (same fitment)

They are all in great condition under the bodged white paint, so once I've given them a good scuff up with a wire brush on the power drill, I'll rattle can them matt black.

I will run them without the centre caps and they will look like this (not my car, and mine will be better painted):

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£28 for 4, so £7 each, and the seller was 2 miles from work. 🙂

Many people spend a fortune on track wheels, I've never seen the point. These will do perfectly. The money I've saved is being invested in more important areas such as...

I have ordered these today. AST Sportline 2's valved and sprung for track use. They are a very good set of coilovers, and would be good enough to use in the future if I ever dip the toe again in the racing world.

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Should have the car back from having the belts and gearbox leak done this week, and be able to do a few bits this weekend. 🙂


 
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This weekend, I have;

a. the steering column bearing to change.
b. the driver's seat to swap out (mk3 MX-5 going in).
c. decat pipes to fit (cat's are split and blowing).
d. the rear roof struts to swap.
e. the wing mirrors to swap.
f. some brackets to fit for the rear flexi hoses.
g. swap out temp BZP bolts for stainless versions.

All dependant upon parts turning up.


 
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Beautiful day at Snetterton yesterday;

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I had the vRS estate on order from the beginning of December but got messed around a lot with build dates. When the build date disappeared from the system I had had enough and cancelled. Shame really as it would have been my 4th!
A mate had a few Clio 16v and ended up with the Trophy. Very useful track cars!

Here's mine

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Posted : 16/05/2014 5:08 pm
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Very nice mk1fan! Lovely day for it. Snetterton is usually the coldest, winiest place on earth, but that looks lovely. What did you think of the circuit?

Numbnut - Yes, mine disappeared again, but is now scheduled for July delivery. I am near breaking point, and will cancel if there is the slightest whiff of any further delays. Really cross as I'm also due to do the Passporte du Soleil at the end of june, and need the car to trasnport us and bikes down there. Currently trying to get Skoda to supply me with an estate car or that weekend.


 
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Afternoon,

There was a [new] blue VRs being driven in a spirited manner at Snetterton.

Despite the lack of elevation change, Snetterton is a great circuit. Was on the '300'. The Bombhole is beautiful and Hamilton is trickier than first appears. Happy to return.

The next booked date I have is a Javelin organised day at Anglesey on the 14th of July. Probably not going to do one in June as I have a mini Euro Tour round northern Europe.

I really need to sort out a day at Brands this year. I'm still of the mind that, in Indy form, it's a 'poor' circuit but people keep telling me different.

Other than that, Croft and Castle Coombe are also on my 'to do' list.

Luckily, Samy has registered 86dB at both the days I've done in her (Cadwell in the wet and Snetterton in the dry).


 
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