[Closed] Tottenham Riots

Bring back national service i say!

These plebs have no structure in their lives, are quite possibly in bred as i imagine a bleeding good percentage are from split families and most wont know who they could be related to. They have been produced from lobours generation of layabouts, have never been disciplined and the worst thing is that they will be reproducing again soon. The sooner they start sterilising the feral woman who produce this low level sloth the better.

As for this prick who got shot in the first place, im sorry but brandish a gun at cops and thats what happens. The only misgiving here is that the police dont do it more, the message may sink in then! ANd well done love, you excellently described your partner as a callous wimp who would run at the first sign of trouble, but like most he thought he was the big man because he had a gun!

Its about time the well to do of this country started getting these ejits when they are by themselves and giving them a good pasting, bring the army in to control them while the police turn away the cameras to keep the beating out of the public eye and show them some discipline.

As for their being no jobs, dont get me started. WHat they mean is there are no jobs that pay what i can earn by pushing some crack or coke.

The cops need to take a zero tolerance, Ray Mallon type approach or the rot will just get worse.

Rant over

Boot camp/working in the community - Get them doing stuff, cleaning parks, cleaning up graffiti, picking up rubbish, building stuff etc etc, helping with care in the community. Gives them skills, gets them out of bed in the morning, gives them purpose, gives them sense of achieveing some thing.

Didn't Kenneth Clarke recently propose just this. The Daily Wail went immediately into meltdown, Dave did his usual screaming U turn, slapped him down and informed the usual hang-em-and-flog-em brigade that it was business as usual

Until we've got politicians prepared to grow a pair and stand up to this hysterical press populism, we haven't a chance of addressing this like grown-ups. Unfortunately we've got a PR bloke at the helm. Its going to get far far worse.

Bland are you a Nazi? Because your post sure as hell makes you sound like one.

bland - you are Joseph Goebbels and I claim my £5 😀

TBH the lad who was shot was a Crack Dealer. I doubt you'd show him your bike collection and hope he or his mates didn't come back at night and rob you blind.

As for national service. I doubt it harmed anyone.

I think Nazis use better spelling and grammar

The percentage of the population that were involved in last nights trouble is vanishingly small, maybe 2000 people out of a population of over 6 million, yet people are wringing their hands about societies failings.

This is simply an organised crime similar to the activities of the larger football mobs in the 70's and 80's and should be treated as such.

It's not fair to suggest that the inner city youth are out of control as the vast majority of Londons teens were not involved in this. The only failing of the last few days is that the police and army were not brought out in force early on to nip this in the bud and arrest those involved.

TBH the lad who was shot was a Crack Dealer.

And you got that unquestioningly correct information from where exactly?

Wohoooo! That's the first time I've seen it blamed on Labour, congrats.

That's because Hora, is a moron.

Boot camp/working in the community - Get them doing stuff, cleaning parks, cleaning up graffiti, picking up rubbish, building stuff etc etc, helping with care in the community. Gives them skills, gets them out of bed in the morning, gives them purpose, gives them sense of achieveing some thing.

Sounds like a good sound bite, however why should they do this? If this doesn't lead to a job/better life? All you would be doing is setting up free labour camps populated by the poorest in the community and putting the people who currently do this work out of a job.

There is absolutely no point in punishing people who don't care, as it won't stop/prevent these events from happening next week/month/year, all it will do is use up resources, which would be better directed at addressing the root of the problem.

Boot camp/working in the community - Get them doing stuff, cleaning parks, cleaning up graffiti, picking up rubbish, building stuff etc etc, helping with care in the community. Gives them skills, gets them out of bed in the morning, gives them purpose, gives them sense of achieveing some thing.

Part of me agrees with this but the problem is that so many of the people who would be in that position are so unmotivated / unqualified that it would probably take too much effort and administration that it will cost even more and the work would still not get done. I think there is a place to say that even if you are not working that you can be contributing to the local community in a positive way rather than just sitting around hoovering up the benefits. The problem with anything like this is we usually end up talking in generalisations which doesn't really help. There are a lot of people who I'm sure are genuinely frustrated at being unemployed and for some of those there will be a percentage who have been dealt a pretty rough hand. Conversely there will also be a percentage who are thick, lazy and ignorant and who have no intention at all of doing anything other than waiting for others to pay, feed and clothe them while they do precisely nothing. And this is the most frustrating group of all and the one that probably angers most of us and leads to the stronger views on what should be done with them.

In China at the moment and just picked all this up on the interweb.

Embaressing ...... very very embaressing.

That is all.

binners - Member
[b]TBH the lad who was shot was a Crack Dealer.[/b]
[i]And you got that unquestioningly correct information from where exactly?[/i]

Wohoooo! That's the first time I've seen it blamed on Labour,

Here you go. Heres what building a growing economy on credit and public spending did

http://www.debtbombshell.com/

Ur speeling iz embaressing.

So Hora you disagree with the fundamental principles of Macro economics then?

It was quite interesting watching the Louis Theroux programme on Boot Camp in the states where some very serious criminal kids were offered Boot Camp or long term imprisonment.

Most took the Boot Camp route, but it didnt work for all, however they never actually mentioned %'s Maybe some folk are just too far gone and the best place for them is prison, however to be all PC they 'deserve their Human Rights' to try....

A system with Boot Camp could work. Those prepared to graft would get opportunbities, the dross would just get sent to some prison for the rest of their sorry lives.

binners - Member
TBH the lad who was shot was a Crack Dealer.
And you got that unquestioningly correct information from where exactly?

No your right. He was a fine upstanding citizen who just happened to carry a handgun.

Just when you thought you'd seen it all, looters in Ponders End Tesco's were seen carrying their booty into the mosque 20 metres away. This is NOT hear say, it's come from a first hand witness..

Clearly a very worrying development, are we facing the prospect of police raids and the inevitable backlash from Islamist mobs, or will the Old Bill turn a blind eye in the name of community relations?

"TBH the lad who was shot was a Crack Dealer."
And you got that unquestioningly correct information from where exactly?

Obvious, he must have bought Crack off him.

This is NOT hear say, it's come from a first hand witness

Pish - thats hearsay.

enfht - Member
Just when you thought you'd seen it all, looters in Ponders End Tesco's were seen carrying their booty into the mosque 20 metres away. [b]This is NOT hear say, it's come from a first hand witness.[/b]

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Just when you thought you'd seen it all, looters in Ponders End Tesco's were seen carrying their booty into the mosque 20 metres away. This is NOT hear say, it's come from a first hand witness..

Those were charitable gifts for when they break fast tonight

Its Tescos' so ok.

See what you mean mf. I'm getting that feeling of Deja Vu

Do you believe everything the police and press spoon-feed you jellyhead? The police said he was a crack dealer waving a gun around so that must be true. Same as Charles de Menezes was a suicide bomber

When I see some evidence to support this, then I'll believe it 🙄

I feel for all those that have lost their possessions and homes to these riots. There are many people affected that will continue to suffer long after this is over.

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Get some of these in effective positions with some skilled operators. They'll soon drop their stolen LED TVs.

"When I see some evidence to support this, then I'll believe it"

When I see evidence to disprove this, then I'll beleive it.

Cameron condemns it all. Feels sympathy. Stepping up the police presence. Marshal law on its way you reckon? (not the Tekken character).

Just when you thought you'd seen it all, looters in Ponders End Tesco's were seen carrying their booty into the mosque 20 metres away. This is NOT hear say, it's come from a first hand witness..

Shakes head in disbelief. Your Club Card points, you're not going to get any Club Card points if you do that FFS.

Cameron condemns it all. Feels sympathy. Stepping up the police presence. Marshal law on its way you reckon? (not the Tekken character).

Pffft, Kuma and Roger would soon sort this stuff out!

Deny all you like

My collegue's husband went to visit his Dad in Ponders End last night and saw it all.

And he's non-white so it must be true, no axe to grind 🙄

6,000 coppers out last night, 16,000 tonight, lets see what happens!

derek_starship stop it. They need caring, love, a cuddle, youth clubs, holidays away with mentors and increased money allowances.

enfht - Member

Deny all you like

My collegue's husband went to visit his Dad in Ponders End last night and saw it all.

hearsay then.

enfht - Member
Deny all you like

My collegue's husband went to visit his Dad in Ponders End last night and saw it all.

And he's non-white so it must be true, no axe to grind

So you got it second hand from a first hand witness? Brilliant!

so it must be true, no axe to grind

Good job he's not a lumberjack then... he'd really have something to moan about.

enfht - Member
Deny all you like

My collegue's husband went to visit his Dad in Ponders End last night and saw it all.

And he's non-white so it must be true, no axe to grind

Yes but you can't say that. Its unfair. Just like saying alot of sex-grooming paedophile gangs just happen to be Asian males.

Its not on. Keep quiet.

I blame hollywood!

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You lot just wait till Fred gets out of bed, he'll have the lot of you - make no mistake

TJ I can certainly understand why you don't want to believe it happened

My collegue chuckled when I suggested the conversation she'd had with her husband (the witness) was just hearsay. 😆

Time to roll out the................
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Even for stw this thread just keeps on giving.

Kneejerking away like a good 'un. Nice line in racist slurs, nice line in ignorant cant.

We have had
Blame it on labour,
Bring back national serive,
Send in the army
I blame the immigrants
Send 'em back home
I blame the muslims
Feral women breeding
Sterilise them

and virtually the whole range of reactionary crap. Any I have missed?

Yeah, I'd like to see the IRA FSU in London again!