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They will only be allowed to review hybrid or 'green' vehicles, and they are going to have four presenters, a woman, a gay, an ethnic and a disabled, so as to better reflect modern British society.
How right you are. What they should do is get four men. Straight, white, rich, hairy manly masculine men, mind, with nice deep voices. In fact they should open each episode with a live cattle slaughter, with machetes, which is then cooked (in a petrol filled pit) and eaten (with bare hands) during the show.
As you say, games we can all play.
[b]THAT'S[/b] 54?
**** me, I'm doing well.
[i]So you're not sure why you've taken offence but you think you have but not sure why. Odd. [/i]
I do know, it's just articulating why I'm struggling with.
The one that brought me up short was describing someone as 'a disabled'. It's dismissive, insulting, suggesting that someone has less to offer as a result, almost that they're not a person at all.
But it's true with all of the list, tbh - it's saying
"here's a choice of inferior objects that will be substituted for the human 'the people' really want"
The one that brought me up short was describing someone as 'a disabled'. It's dismissive, insulting, suggesting that someone has less to offer as a result etc.
I really do think you're reading too much into it.
So you're not sure why you've taken offence
I'm not sure you have to be on the bleeding edge of political correctness gone mad to twitch when someone refers to "a disabled"...
Obviously it's in the context of Top Gear though, so it's hilariously subversive.
[i]I really do think you're reading too much into it. [/i]
fair enough, I wasn't asking for moderation to take place and the first thing I said was that it was a choice I'd made to react how I have.
It still doesn't feel right to see those words written that way in that context but I've had my say on it.
Or, it could be a much more subtle and intelligent comment on the tickbox nature of tokenism in an overwhelmingly white middle class media organisation... That might be missed by those who jump on the 'I'm offended' bandwagon without knowing exactly why?
No, they have done exactly the right thing. It is alleged that he assaulted a work colleague, so it's entirely appropriate for them to suspend him pending a disciplinary investigation.
Of course if I dobbed someone at work I would expect to be disciplined - yes probably suspended and possibly sacked.
But, the business would continue.
This is a corporation that has recently been criticised for ignoring allegations of much more serious wrong doings by its stars, precisely because they were big popular acts.
To suggest that they ignore allegations of a criminal act because the perpetrator is “funny” and earns them lots of money strikes me as extremely ironic.
Given the BBCs history regarding Saville, Stuart Hall, DLT, etc. its the only thing they can do.
Electioneering Clown (@Fedupwithclowns):
Jeremy Clarkson has been suspended. He must have done something that even the BBC find inexcusable.
So that rules out child abuse.
Given the franchise was worn through in any case, the Beeb ought to take this opportunity to quietly put it out of its misery.
Of course if I dobbed someone at work I would expect to be disciplined - yes probably suspended and possibly sacked.But, the business would continue.
I agree, and fully expect that the BBC will continue to function.
Where's the petition to make sure the BBC sack him?
itv there he goes ... or worse sky 😈
Given the franchise was worn through in any case, the Beeb ought to take this opportunity to quietly put it out of its misery.
Would you choose to put a £150million cash cow out of it's misery?,
Lots of people like to watch Top Gear all around the world.
Why should the programme they enjoy so much be cancelled because of this?
Discipline Clarkson by all means ( this would be instant dismissal in most workplaces) but the show should go on with the other two or with the addition of a guest presenter..
to suspend a bloke alleged to have assaulted a fellow employee?Massive mistake on the BBC's part
edinburgh?Or, it could be a much more subtle and intelligent comment on the tickbox nature of tokenism in an overwhelmingly white middle class media organisation...
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/celebrity/clarkson-suspended-for-act-of-kindness-2015031196118
If he hit somebody in the workplace he should be sacked. Regardless of how much money he brings in.
It's all just speculation though.
It will end at some point. Just because it makes money doesn't mean it has to be made. Scrapping it may, and I stress the may, give the Beeb the kick up the arse it so desperately needs.
[i]Ianmunro said..I feel quite sorry for Jeremy Clarkson getting suspended; it's total discrimination against talentless bellends.[/i]
Oh yeah, the multi, multi, millionaire Clarkson with fans all over the world is a talentless bellend is he? He's almost certainly got more talent in his little finger than the person writing that statement.
but, the business would continue
Maybe the executive producer and the other two key presenters said it was a load of bollocks and all refused to go ahead with the programme in protest at the way Clarkson was being treated?
But then we would be back in the area of wild supposition based on rumour in the absence of facts...
It's like the 'leaking' of a certain out-take where Clarkson mumbled something close to an offensive word, that could only have been got hold of by someone with access to the tapes... so it would also be an entirely feasible possibility that someone decided to turn a storm in a thimble in the canteen into something much larger because they were pursuing their own agenda!
£150M that'll just about pay for the taxi's to and from Salford to London.
Accoding to the Telegraph:
Clarkson, 54, is reported to have hit Oisin Tymon, 36, after being told no dinner had been laid on for the presenters after they finished filming for the BBC2 show one evening last week.A source told The Sun: "Jeremy had a massive bust-up with one of the male show producers and he ended up smacking him in the face. Everyone was absolutely stunned.
"It was all over a catering issue. Jeremy just saw red and hit the assistant producer, who he blamed for not having organised the food."
The Daily Mirror quoted a source saying: "They came to the end of filming after a long day and Jeremy discovered that no food had been laid on. He just saw red and hit the assistant producer, who he blamed for not having organised the food. He snapped."
A source close to Clarkson insisted he was innocent and that "he didn't punch anyone".
PREFACE: I gave up watching the current format of Top Gear several years ago on account of it being rather boring. Anyway, not letting that get in the way....
Why's everyone getting in such a tizz about this? I mean it's hardly surprising, is it?
What surprises me more is that people seem to think that Clarkson is the most irritating of the three presenters. He isn't. That's James May. What a ****ing ****.
That's James May. What a * *.
No, the comedy stylings of Richard Hammond do it for me.
Oh well, if it was reported in both the Sun and the Daily Mirror then it must be true!
... and he hasn't been arrested for common assault. Why is that?
Also, judging by the state of him, he probably punches like a weak bag of flab anyway. Bit like "doing a Prescott"...
ninfan - Member
Oh well, if it was reported in both the Sun and the Daily Mirror then it must be true!
I didn't say it was.
Everything I quoted was from that bastion of lefty political correctness, the Telegraph, btw.
Never mind all that, 54. That's fifty-bloody-four! He looks old enough to be my dad.
Also, judging by the state of him, he probably punches like a weak bag of flab anyway. Bit like "doing a Prescott"...
I thought that. I bet, if you hit him, he'd cry.
Everything I quoted was from that bastion of lefty political correctness, the Telegraph, btw.
And if you bothered to read it, it was the telegraph quoting what was reported in the Sun and Daily Mirror 🙄
a 12 year old boy has been radicalized and has killed a man on camera for the world to see in a religious execution and people are worrying about 2 millionaires punching each other? what is wrong with the world?
ninfan - MemberAnd if you bothered to read it, it was the telegraph quoting what was reported in the Sun and Daily Mirror
Yes, I know.
🙂
rumple - Member
a 12 year old boy has been radicalized and has killed a man on camera for the world to see in a religious execution and people are worrying about 2 millionaires punching each other?
How do you know the producer is a millionaire?
How do you know he punched him back?
so the telegraph reporting what other media are reporting isn't the telegraph reporting?And if you bothered to read it, it was the telegraph quoting what was reported in the Sun and Daily Mirror
I'm lost here..
There cannot be many jobs where you can punch , or attempt to punch you boss, and keep your job and still be a prep school educated man of the common people.
wild supposition based on rumour is a game we can all play, but so far it's all on the side of 'guilt by accusation'
if we are talking only in idioms then no smoke without fire.
Why do you think he was suspended then ...Liberal conspiracy by tofu knitters?
If it's top gear, or another, singing/cooking/baking/painting/sewing/dancing "show"..well I don't care who presents it, get someone from isis for all I care..
o the telegraph reporting what other media are reporting isn't the telegraph reporting?
It s even more confusing now
Is ninfan reporting on Rusty reporting on what the telegraph reported was reported in the sun and the mirror reporting or not?
Well is it?
[quote=mikewsmith said]There cannot be many jobs where you can punch , or attempt to punch you boss, and keep your job
Tube train driver ? 😉
Got one!
No one likes a smart arse 😀
Well played sir , well played.
Lets see what comes out in the wash huh.
If he did deck somebody he’s got to go. Irrespective of what me, you or Stuart Lee thinks of him. A shame, I like Top Gear without actually having much time for Clarkson, but without him it wouldn’t work.
£150m sales revenue a year pissed away over a plate of sandwiches. I bet somebody at BEEB finance is delighted.
Season 23, under a different name, will be new and exclusive on SKYONE starting November 8th and repeated every two hours on DAVE. I look forward to my Sky susbscription increasing to cover the catering bills.
[quote=yourguitarhero ]I'd like to know what he punched the guy for. May have been justified?
Personally I reckon Hammond would be more justified.
may, and I stress the may, give the Beeb the kick up the arse it so desperately needs
I'm not sure losing an hours programming for 12 Sundays out of the year is going to result in relaunching the Beeb, but we will wait and see.
I'm still not going to watch I'm the Midwife anyway. So there.
May have been justified?
I don't think James May is that sort of bloke.
I can get over being called a Moron 😆
Ohh the shame, ohh the indignity, ohh the irony.
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