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Favorite car in the episode?
For me the Fiat 124. The original one
I'm pretty sure it was a track day, rather than touristfahren, which would explaina) the cars parked up together at the start
b) the lack of bikes (track days there are normally cars or bikes)the overtakes would look exactly like that as people aren't racing. once someone's caught you on a track day, if they're going quicker than you, you get to a place you can ease off, and let them past (on the left, if its a touristfahren).
The overtakes might have been scripted/repeated, but they're not contrived. Sabine in a car like that would probably be quicker than any member of this forum, in literally any car. Just in the same way that Danny hart would be quicker than any of us down fort bill, regardless of the bike he's riding - particularly if (as the analogy would follow) he's just on a mid-spec enduro bike (so pretty reasonable, if not absolutely optimized for the track) rather than a £10k carbon bling spec dh bike (ie a 911 gt3 or turbo)
I totally get that she would be quicker by a big margin than the average 'Ring punter, but it just didn't strike me as real at all. Few things - some of those passes were on straights, think one might have been on a corner exit, and no matter how good she is, she can't make a 300hp hatch (two up) accelerate faster than a hundred grand sportscar. Some of the pases she made were on the right, and there was at least one rear-looking shot of the Golf from one of the 'target' cars. More than anything, I think it was the in-car shots - would Rory really drop a loser sign on a total stranger as they go past, and would the Beeb show it? Would either of them be that excitable? Would they be working out on the fly the cumulative values of the cars they're going past? Who even does that (unless you're doing a piece about how fast round the 'Ring a 30k hatch is)? Just had "scripted" written all over it for me.
Good... Le Bond, Sabine, muck spreader... (would have been good to have got some facts on the power of those blades)
Bad ... leblanc's comic timing and whole programme is a bit too long
Ugly .... The DB11 😥
I had a 5 seconds glance at New TG not good, not good instantly put me off me meal coz something is really not right.Almost sums up reading your posts.
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About half way through, so far it's def the best yet!
I'm pretty sure it was a track day, rather than touristfahren, which would explain
a) the cars parked up together at the start
b) the lack of bikes (track days there are normally cars or bikes)the overtakes would look exactly like that as people aren't racing. once someone's caught you on a track day, if they're going quicker than you, you get to a place you can ease off, and let them past (on the left, if its a touristfahren).
The overtakes might have been scripted/repeated, but they're not contrived. Sabine in a car like that would probably be quicker than any member of this forum, in literally any car. Just in the same way that Danny hart would be quicker than any of us down fort bill, regardless of the bike he's riding - particularly if (as the analogy would follow) he's just on a mid-spec enduro bike (so pretty reasonable, if not absolutely optimized for the track) rather than a £10k carbon bling spec dh bike (ie a 911 gt3 or turbo)
I totally get that she would be quicker by a big margin than the average 'Ring punter, but it just didn't strike me as real at all. Few things - some of those passes were on straights, think one might have been on a corner exit, and no matter how good she is, she can't make a 300hp hatch (two up) accelerate faster than a hundred grand sportscar. Some of the pases she made were on the right, and there was at least one rear-looking shot of the Golf from one of the 'target' cars. More than anything, I think it was the in-car shots - would Rory really drop a loser sign on a total stranger as they go past, and would the Beeb show it? Would either of them be that excitable? Would they be working out on the fly the cumulative values of the cars they're going past? Who even does that (unless you're doing a piece about how fast round the 'Ring a 30k hatch is)? Just had "scripted" written all over it for me.
I agree - it was embarrassing to watch actually - loads of the giant killing was of rental cars including RSR, IE billies at 6/10ths (don't blame them with a €20k excess) or guys on their in-lap/cooldown. The thing is it gave the impression the car was a giant killer. Good as it is it really isn't. Plenty of punters are quicker than Sabine in a Golf CS there, they just decided not to show them. I quite like that Rory guy but he is into cars and he has waited that long to do 1 lap there : really ?
Plenty of punters are quicker than Sabine in a Golf CS there, they just decided not to show them.
Personal friends of yours? You go there often enough to know this for a fact? She [i]lives[/i] there! Possibly knows the circuit better than any one single person, a professional racing driver, done more than 20,000 laps, increasing by around 1200/year! But I guess any random jackass with a fancy car can show her a thing or too...
Top gear has always been fake, the thing was that you didn't care because of the interpersonal dynamic. If that is lost then they're screwed
I think it was the in-car shots - would Rory really drop a loser sign on a total stranger as they go past, and would the Beeb show it?
Why wouldn't they?
But I guess any random jackass with a fancy car can show her a thing or too...
Not a random jackass, but I'm sure a very good driver in a faster car could get round quicker (see Max's post ^^^).
Why wouldn't they?
Just seems out of character for the new face of the show - I could imagine the old mob doing it, this lot not so much. Don't know if you could say it's an insult but it seems derogatory, I'd wonder if the Beeb has guidelines about being mildly rude to strangers.
Plenty of punters are quicker than Sabine in a Golf CS there, they just decided not to show them.Personal friends of yours? You go there often enough to know this for a fact? She lives there! Possibly knows the circuit better than any one single person, a professional racing driver, done more than 20,000 laps, increasing by around 1200/year! But I guess any random jackass with a fancy car can show her a thing or too...
Yes some personal friends will be quicker than her in their car if she is in the Golf but probably not if they are in the Golf too. I only go there 3 times a year but that's only been for 8 or so years. I can't remember saying that anyone can be faster than her, can you ? I said plenty of people will be quicker than her in their car. Just go to a DN event or even an evening TF and you'll see other locals in action too. There is only so fast the Golf can go, isn't there ? She might be worth 10s more than the average serious track pedaler there in the Golf but many cars are worth a multiple of those 10s. The program will have you believe that the Golf is quicker than a rental GT3. It really isn't, and even Sabine can't change that.
She is probably amongst the quickest drivers there but she is not a magician. I have only done 600 laps or so which means I only know 90% of what I need to know and I am fully aware that the other 10% would take me 500 years at this rate but the law of diminishing returns hit far earlier than you may think. You don't find minutes by being a local. You find the last 10s, at best. Which isn't enough to beat a GT3, unless my neighbour drives it!
Nothing against Sabine as I have been using her family's facilities quite a lot but a little perspective will help understanding how embarrassing that feature was. Actually, that's precisely the kind of attitude displayed that the Ring are trying to get rid off and the place has kind of become a little less loutish of late.
Enjoyed that tonight! 🙂
Yip, it's a grower,
That's entertainment...
I'm enjoying this one.
7.8/10.
Even the Rory Reid/celeb bit was good.
It's a great series so far, lets hope they can continue this into the future.
It got better and better tonight. I'm no TG fan boi - that was just good telly.
That was the best SIARFC segment of this series; Tinie Tempah was a great guest, but looked mighty p***sed off with his time 😆
Aside from that, the rest of the show never quite sustained the excitement levels generated by the opening Bugatti segment, but it was still very entertaining.
Does anyone else think they're following this thread and adjusting the content of the show each time? It feels like it 😆
Has it been mentioned that Colin Furze is busy building a 600cc 100bhp three-wheel dodgem for the Stig to drive?
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Something I'd noticed on last weeks show when MLB was testing that Aston Martin - whilst I have no love for Clarkson, when he says "this might be the best car that <insert car maker name here> have ever made" then there's a fair chance he's tried most of them and has that experience to state that. MLB? Nah, how can he make that assertion?
But generally all good fun and entertaining. Exactly what TGT isn't (apart form the first episode with the Porsche, laFerrari and McLaren).
Does anyone else think they're following this thread and adjusting the content of the show each time? It feels like it
Pretty sure Chris Harris rides a mtb, I recall a video with him having a bike in the back of a Ferrari, so you could be right! Was another decent one for me last night.
Nah, how can he make that assertion?
He's a multi-millionaire petrol-head. Whilst I reckon he won't have driven as many different cars as a moto-journo like Clarkson, he'll probably have driven a lot more than a regular Joe*
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Does anyone else think they're following this thread and adjusting the content of the show each time? It feels like itPretty sure Chris Harris rides a mtb, I recall a video with him having a bike in the back of a Ferrari, so you could be right! Was another decent one for me last night.
I imagine the comments in the main are pretty universal across many different fora/forums/whatever way they get their feedback. This is a pretty broad cross section of the middle class male so pretty core audience for TG I'd imagine. I daresay the Pistonheads Topgear is Back thread looks very similar in tone. Not that I can be bothered to look as it's often full of objectionable car snobs.
nuts 🙂
Chris Hoy is the guest this week apparently. It will be interesting to see what his time is considering his "hobby".
Harris rides an Orange.
Watched the current one last night it was great fun again. Chris Harris was very good in the Bugatti bit he needs to transfer that style to the studio.
There's a feature on King of The Hammers on this weeks show apparently with Rob Butler and Jim Marsden coaching the Top Gear Presenters George Lewis and Rory Reid in a head to head off-Road Race, should be a good laugh, wonder what ultra 4 toys they'll be let loose in! 😀
if you fed Colin Furze amphetamines...would anyone notice?
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Oh man...that Ford GT! All that for just $400k. 😀 Bite my hand off.
Great episode tonight and Chris Hoy has properly smashed the Star in the Car time! Impressive stuff.
I just watched my first 2 mins of this series - hate to say without Clarkson but it seemed a bit lifeless and cringey. Tarbet than just cringey with.
Great episode again.
Loved it again tonight, those off-roaders are nuts!! And the ford gt is gorgeous...
Brilliant episode, that one! 😆
Not really enthused with it either.
Chris and Rory - for all their knowledge, skill and enthusiasm - have no charisma in the studio. The scripting seems even more staged than before. And as for including EJ ... not for me.
Enjoyed the Hammers piece - probably helped by messing around with a Traxxas Summit with monkey jnr!
All in all it's fun in parts but not very likeable.
That was fun.
Eddie Jordan is terrible, however. Utterly terrible.
Also, I NEED one of those trucks.
That was the first episode of TG (old and new) and TGT that I have watched all of. No ffwd through siarpc either.
Just shows there isn't a problem that can't be solved by removing Chris Evans.
I just watched my first 2 mins of this series - hate to say without Clarkson but it seemed a bit lifeless and cringey. Tarbet than just cringey with.
I hope you will excuse me if I ignore any opinion formed on watching just 2 minutes
Gave it a fair chance then? I've only seen 120 seconds of The Godfather. It was shit.just watched my first 2 mins of this series
Enjoyed tonight's episode. That off road thing looked nuts.
Just shows there isn't a problem that can't be solved by removing Chris Evans.
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That Ford GT! Beautiful car, and I love the sound.