[Closed] Tomorrow our next Prime Minister will give hope to a nation

doubt it

As long as they don't support Liverpool eh?

Clear off you obnoxious troll

worst troll ever

His 'vision of the future' involves freezing my pay. He is therefore, to my mind at least, a C**T.

...and children?

Please don't tell me you've managed to get someone to have sex with you?

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Posh Cock?
Spice Cock?
Victoria Cockerel?
Cocktoria Cockham?

I give in.

Odious chumpis a better description (I'm assuming Posh cock too)

And anyone using ZaNu labour is an obvious tosspot

Arsenal - I'm sure a large proportion of the country will be completely depressed by whatever vision posh Tory boy Dave will dream up, as like most politicians he will say whatever he needs to do to get elected, and if or when he does will conveniently ignore all of it. And what about Gorgeous George Osborne squirming today when asked to clarify the detail of his recent financial proposals!

Bloody Hell! I just searched google images for 'tory'. I wasn't expecting what I found. (NSFW)

This is more like what I was looking for..
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Don't think many people are remotely convinced or inspired by Cameron, they are just sick of New Labour and blame them for the world financial crisis because they are thick.

I'm hoping Dave will really lift the nation with a passionate speech setting out his vision for our (and [b]our childrens[/b]) future

Lanesra's spawned? That's a terrifying thought.

I don't blame New Labour for the global financial crisis, but there's quite a list of things I do hold against them.

That Gordon Brown and New Labour have repeatedly misled 'the public' doesn't mean that Cameron and Co would do the same. That's the hope I'm clinging to.

@Duntmatter The lady in question dominates the 'moderate' Tory google image searches as well <insert boggle eyed gif here>.

Dear me, what an infantile piece of trollery. The trolls of old would be embarrassed with that. Clumsy, lacks creativity and the lad's heart just isn't in it. 2/10 - Extra point for Lanesra pretending he has children.

The pigs are taxiing down the runway.
Ian

Ah it's only Arsenal again. Nothing to see here. Move along everyone.

Don't know who makes me feel worse - Blithering Brown or Condescending Cameron - guess I'll waste my vote on the other fella.

You humourless bunch, at least Cameron is a properly chosen (elected?) leader of his party. IIRC Brown just happened to use a loophole to be one and became a PM.
I can't vote so I'll get slaughtered here for expressing my opinion, but there is a proper solution to the "Who should be the next PM?" question. Get all 3 them to Clarkson and let Top Gear come up with a driving challenge. The winner rules!

I had forgotten how freakish Victoria Beckham's breast enhancement was at one stage. She is so cute. 🙂

[i]She is so cute[/i]
sweet baby jesus and the orphans. Get ye to an optician post haste.

On your cuteness scale BD, where does a fluffy rabbit or a kitten fall?

You can't believe anything anyone says in politics. But I struggle to see anyone doing worse than the current lot.

I'm hoping Dave will really lift the nation with a passionate speech setting out his vision for our (and our childrens) future.

...He has a vision?

I think it depends on whether the fluffy rabbit has wierd surgical implants, a high-viz spray tan, peroxide hair and a look of alluring, swivel-eyed vacuity. If it doesn't, it probably isn't all that cute. 8)

Would Cameron be more of a credible choice for Prime Minister if he had come from a failing comprehensive where the teachers had long since lost control and academic achievement was a distant memory?

Do you think that he will be likely to be at least partly responsible for getting the country into a complete mess, then expecting us to believe he can get us out of it?

Don't you think we need to get back on an even keel as soon as possible without incurring even more debts?

Apart from the knee-jerk class prejudice being invoked, what is there about the actual policies that you think could bettered by Labour's "borrow borrow borrow and hope it'll all be OK at some indeterminate point in the future" approach?

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Would Cameron be more of a credible choice for Prime Minister if he had come from a failing comprehensive where the teachers had long since lost control and academic acheivement was a distant memory?

No he would still be completely lacking in substance or integrity.

Mr Woppit - stop being the voice of reason, that sort of blasphemy is not allowed on here where we have an apparently odd mix of middle class well paid people who want a socialist revolution 😆

I too find the knee-jerk class-ist reaction to be very odd, from the very people worried about class differences.

Cameron is a lying vacuous plonker of no substance whatsoever. He is truly lucky in that his fight is against a very poor labour government and virtually all the papers are on his side providing propaganda for him

Does anyone else think that the post title sounds a bit 'tomorrow belongs to me'?.

Cameron is a lying vacuous plonker of no substance whatsoever.

That's an interesting assertion. Only one way to find out if it's true. Regardless of whether it is true, he's still better than the current bunch and so is the obvious choice. No point in voting for anyone else as usual.

he's still better than the current bunch.

Based on what exactly?

he's still better than the current bunch and so is the obvious choice

????????

The main difference I noticed when Labour got in was:
-The logos got better

The starting premise of the thread, that there was a meaningful comparison to be drawn between Zimbabwe post-independence and the UK under a Labour government would have been breathtakingly stupid and ignorant if it wasn't just a typically crass Lanesra troll. The rhetoric was bound to be a trifle intemperate.

The idea that there is a great deal to choose between a Brown government and a Cameron one, on current evidence, is wishful thinking. The next general election will simply not be a seismic event in our nation's history. 🙂

What I really want to know is where have all the political giants gone? People of substance with ethics and morals, with principles they are prepared to stand by? People with intelligence and nous?

Heseltine / Healey / Benn / Robin Cook / John Smith / even bloody Thatcher could be considered such. Agree or disagree with them they stood for something

What do we get now? Vacuous Dave with his lies, his total lack of principles. Brown with his cowardice. Osbourne with his total flights of fancy and obvious ignorance

I really think this is a major issue. Such poor quality people running the country.

I'm afraid you know the answer to that TJ. Peter Mandelson is a political giant of our times. A man who perfectly understands government in the modern world, who has the capacity to manipulate events to his will and to become the guiding hand of a beleagured government. A man so far beyond the hustle and bustle of petty politics that he does not even need to stand for election, does not even need to become Prime Minister to control the government. A man who holds, as his shining central principle the belief that it is better, all things considered, if he is in charge and who has stuck tirelessly to that conviction through hell and high water for two decades to become the most influential man in Britain today. He is the face of early 21st century politics in Britain, and when the histories of this time come to be written they will call this the Era of Mandelson. 8)

.......and virtually all the papers are on his side providing propaganda for him.

How dare those papers report the failings of the current government, they should be the government's propaganda.

Can somebody demonstrate what lies Cameron has been telling and offer any evidence to support the assertion?

@grumm Well, based on assumptions and policies and the fact that by the laws of probability some of them will have to be put into action, whereas currently we have inaction and uselessness.

The problem, TJ, is that such people no longer exist and even if they did, their extreme views would leave some part of the country very unhappy and a country with oscillating tendencies every 4 years. The current government is mediocre, with average views and average inaction, no big changes and so it doesnt stir up views. Politicians these days seem to want to just get the job, rather than wanting to follow an ideal, because if you can be mediocre you're OK to most of the population and the rest can't be bothered voting. No-one wants to be shot down for having made a big bold decision, if they can serve out their term without causing a war/famine/riots/strikes they've done what they need to. And to some extent thats about right, governance should be about taking the average tack and keeping everyone as happy as possible. Though clearly every now and then a step-change in policy is needed to re ignite the works.

Heseltine / Healey / Benn / Robin Cook / John Smith / even bloody Thatcher could be considered such. Agree or disagree with them they stood for something

We get what we deserve, I spent an evening listening to Tony Benn a couple of years ago and he was (and is) a committed politician of integrity, whether you agree with his politics or not. Even those who didnt respected him.
We now only have time for politics lite.

Ernie - ernie?

Sooty and Jim - there is a big difference between reporting the failings of the government and making up stories to provide propaganda - try reading the mail to see what I mean.

Coffeeking - fair point but neither Heseltine nor John Smith could be considered extreme - two of the best prime ministers we have never had

[i]We get what we deserve, I spent an evening listening to Tony Benn[/i]

You must have been very, very bad to deserve that. 😉

"try reading the mail to see what I mean".
PMSL

We offer the politicians no respect, so why do we keep expecting them to inspire us?