How much better would society be if potential voters had to pass a certain basic IQ level before being allowed to vote?
And when issues are debated in the media, shouldn’t all debaters have their IQ’s published so we can judge the validity of their positions?
How about when people phone the emergency services, shouldn’t they have to pass a quick IQ test before reporting the coach electric cigarette smoker for bomb making or complaining about their melted/stolen snowman?
Adverts that claim ‘x number of people agreed when surveyed’, don’t we deserve to know the IQ of those people (otherwise, what is the point)?
The scary thing is that around half the population is below average intelligence!
IQ's not everything, as druid shows.
Wouldnt' make any difference. The ones that vote are the ones intelligent enough to realise it matters.
Even worse, the average person has less than 2 legs
thickos hoping around, whatever next
The ones that vote are the ones intelligent enough to realise it matters.
I don't believe that for a minute. I've heard women say they voted for Blair because of his smile!
The scary thing is that around half the population is below average intelligence!
Erm, not entirely true..... IQ is not a bell shaped distribution. It's skewed and truncated.
Anyone with a half decent IQ would've known that.....
(runsawayandhides)
thickos hoping around, whatever next
Better than thickos being pessimistic all over the place.
druidh - Member
The scary thing is that around half the population is below average intelligence!
I think you'll find that depends on how you define average.
only if anyone standing for office had to pass the same test...
And this thread only goes to show that around half the population also has no sense of humour 😆
Not an IQ test, but a general knowledge current affairs test, not a complicated one, and say a 50% pass rate. But I listened to Jeremy Vine once, and I was very frightened, very...
Some of the discussions I heard around AV, about what AV actually was, were terrifying...
Maybe not an IQ test but possibly they should be tested to see if they have a basic understanding of what they're voting on. I know a dude of 53 who voted for one party all his life, and I quote, "cuz my dad told me to vote for them"
/Rant
And what about the Muppet Salmond in Scotland looking to give school children the vote in the independence referendum. Not old enough to vote in a general election, local, election, leave school, buy cigarettes, alcohol, fireworks or a bloody kitchen knife but old enough to vote on a constitutional issue..... I suspect my cat has a better understanding of the issue and whats at stake than the average school child that's just seen braveheart!
/End_of_Rant
I think you'll find that depends on how you define average
ah beaten to it. Yes, Median value or Mean value...
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And what about the Muppet Salmond in Scotland looking to give school children the vote in the independence referendum. Not old enough to vote in a general election, local, election, [b]leave school[/b][b]???[/b], buy cigarettes, alcohol, fireworks or a bloody kitchen knife but old enough to vote on a constitutional issue.....
But old enough to be sent to war and be told to die for your country eh?
You can leave school at 16 in Scotland. You can also get married (without parental consent) and legally have sex/children.
I think you'll find that depends on how you define average
I'd assumed druidh had laid out bait for that by using 'around half'..
ah beaten to it. Yes, Median value or Mean value...
STOP MAKING ME ALL STATISTICAL ON A FRIDAY!!!!
Mean is synonymous with Average. Median and Mode are entirely different measures.
Anyway - it doesn't matter. IQ is just a state of mind.
I think what the OP is after is the following:-
Do you watch Jeremy Kyle?
Do you buy scratch cards?
Do you live on benefits and believe that is your career?
Have you never eaten fruit?
Does five-a-day mean number of times you shoot up?
If you answer yes to any of the above you may not vote and you must be sterilised.
Simple.
There should be a QI test hosted by Stephen Fry. Everyone gets a chance to set off the klaxon.
[quote=vinnyeh ]I'd assumed druidh had laid out bait for that by using 'around half'..
😉
IQ tests...hmmm what do dey do in skool'idge.. is day etst (tests) of intelligence..
Or..
What like.
IQ in it's inherent form is a flawed test profile. It doesn't prove anything really except a score on a scale.
Many people on this planet have exceptional intelligence and have neither passed, or know of, exams.
I do quite like Stephen Fry, but the constant repeats on Dave are getting tiresome. 😉
But old enough to be sent to war and be told to die for your country eh?
Very different issues- right to vote is the privilege granted to an individual.
Fighting for your country in time of need is a respnsibility, as part of the collective.
And this thread only goes to show that around half the population also has no sense of humour
Aaah, if only we were above average like druidh, we'd have seen that cleverness.
STOP MAKING ME ALL STATISTICAL ON A FRIDAY!!!!Mean is synonymous with Average. Median and Mode are entirely different measures.
yes sir, sorry sir, won't do it again sir.
I think what the OP is after is the following:-
Do you watch Jeremy Kyle?
Do you buy scratch cards?
Do you live on benefits and believe that is your career?
Have you ever eaten fruit?
Does five-a-day mean number of times you shoot up?If you answer yes to any of the above you may not vote and you must be sterilised.
Simple.
thing is, the above goes against many things I beleive in, it is contrary to the values I hold and the society I want to live in...
...but I can't help but pretty much agree with it wholeheartedly.
[quote=vinnyeh ]But old enough to be sent to war and be told to die for your country eh?
Very different issues- right to vote is the privilege granted to an individual.
Fighting for your country in time of need is a respnsibility, as part of the collective.
Deciding who we should go to war with is a power given to the government by the electorate.
A possible Goodwin's
[i][b]Western culture has a peculiar fascination with ‘intelligence’. I’ve not taken an IQ test for years – and hopefully never will again. Being ‘intelligent’ is held in ludicrously high esteem (second probably only to good looks) that most people think they’ve either got it, or they haven’t.
The ‘doctrine’ of an inborn intelligence seems to be ingrained in academic thinking. If I had an apple for every time a student told me “I failed because I wasn’t clever enough”, I could probably quit lecturing and go into the cider-making business.
The truth is, the very idea of IQ, ‘intelligence’ and being ‘clever’ is hugely controversial. Did you know that the IQ test was developed and popularised by the Nazis? Fascist Germany used the test as a way to ‘ethnically cleanse’ less desirable out from their society.[/i][/b]
at 16 - get married.. also - buy a pet. enter into a contract.
Anyway, the number of intelligent folk that spout scary views makes this a somewhat dubious proposal..
I think what the OP is after is the following:-Do you watch Jeremy Kyle?
Do you buy scratch cards?
Do you live on benefits and believe that is your career?
Have you never eaten fruit?
Does five-a-day mean number of times you shoot up?If you answer yes to any of the above you may not vote and you must be sterilised.
Simple.
One thing at a time, one thing at a time!
Deciding who we should go to war with is a power given to the government by the electorate.
Only in around half of all cases.
IQ test was developed and popularised by the Nazis? Fascist Germany used the test as a way to ‘ethnically cleanse’ less desirable out from their society.
IQ Test
ICBMs
Peoples car
Motorways
Package Holidays/Holiday Resorts
They sure knew a thing or two eh?
But old enough to be sent to war and be told to die for your country eh?
Soldiers must be 18 or over to go on tour.
I feel that some think I'm suggested that only Mensa (the society that has questions involving education to test one's IQ!) members can vote, whereas in fact I'm just saying that people who are unable to form coherent thoughts should be unable to.
Thomas Cook was a Nazi?!
[quote=shifter ]Thomas Cook was a Nazi?!
That's why there are lots of coach tours to Poland
VinnyH - Don't set me off on sending what are little more than children to fight pointless wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, coupled with the appalling treatment they get when they come back. That's a different rant
And if the ability to procreate has any bearing on anything your suggesting children as young as 11 or 12 could be allowed to vote....
Wrecker - not in 1981. I went on active service at 17 1/2
IQ has little to do with common sense, sense of fairness, compassion, etc...
Not an IQ test- they're not that good at judging intelligence, and in any case the relevance of intelligence is slight, here- you can be smart and ill-informed.
But a current affairs quiz? Perhaps, when you vote for a candidate, you should be challenged to identify his policy stance on certain issues, or his party's? Or to correctly identify past actions?
Parliamentary democracy is a clever deceit, gives the impression that the voter has some input, reality is that a govt is elected by barely 20% of the populace that are over 18
Wrecker - not in 1981. I went on active service at 17 1/2
Fair enough gweilo, but I don't think they're proposing to apply the intelligence test retrospectively.....
I once did an IQ test and scored 42.
Turns out, i'm God.
LOL I'd probably fail wrecker 😕
and as I admit to being of low IQ, how do u get these boxy things for copied bits of text.....
how do u get these boxy things for copied bits of text.....
like that.
[quote=Gweilo ]and as I admit to being of low IQ, how do u get these boxy things for copied bits of text.....
Or that
