Reminds me of the last few days with my mother. Seems to suddenly speed up near the end. Near same age and oddly lookalike.
Very traumatic.
Im on the fence about the royal family, but they bring money in to the country.
You'll be gobsmacked when you hear about Versailles...
shame for her family but 96... Good innings if it is that.
Going to be a silly amount of news coverage no doubt.
Not sure I really care.
Camilla Tominy on BBC News, so I've turned thst off - Wychall's in depressingly sombre mood.
You’ll be gobsmacked when you hear about Versailles…
Right? The top ten tourist attractions in the UK are unrelated to the royal family, with the potential use of royal in the name.
Not a massive fan of the royal family, but I wish her all the best, she has been a credit to this country and humanity IMO.
At the end of the day, regardless of title, she is someone's mother and grandmother etc
apparently BBCs cleared their schedule 🙁
New BSL interpreter on BBC news also wearing black
I really struggle to get upset about of really old people moving on, sure it's sad for the family and loved ones but its the natural way of things.
Wouldnt want to wish it on the old dear but if its time its time.
Do you mean without her mogrim or without the institution?
Both. The Queen has a very carefully managed image, which makes the monarchy untouchable. All her flaws (and there are loads) are carefully ignored, she's portrayed as the nation's loveable grandmother, a steady hand, etc, etc. I'm hoping with her death Britain can finally move on from "We won the war" and British exceptionalism, and start to take a more considered and accurate view of its place in the world.
Wychall’s in depressingly sombre mood.
That ghoul has waited his whole life for this
he's ****ing weird
That ghoul has waited his whole life for this
she made Boris and Liz get in a plane
they took separate private jets. Ridiculous.
TBH could the country survive another tory pm selection thing if it fell out the sky with them both in it.
As i understand it – yes, all workplaces are to close when the death of a monarch is anounced
Not all, mine certainly won't.
I really struggle to get upset about of really old people moving on, sure it’s sad for the family and loved ones but its the natural way of things.
Wouldnt want to wish it on the old dear but if its time its time.
This. 96 is a good age by any standard.
Glad, once again, we don't have TV though.
More republican than Royalist, but think it'll be shame when the Queen goes, she's been an ever present in my life, most people in the country today won't remember a different person on the throne. My Dad was 5 when she took the throne. He's 74 now.
End of an ir I guess
I really struggle to get upset about of really old people moving on, sure it’s sad for the family and loved ones but its the natural way of things.
Similarly, I don't understand those (Starmer) calling for her to make a full recovery. To what? Fulll mobility, clean bill of health? She's on death's door in her late nineties... Wish her a good rest.
Like many others I'm not a fan of the monarchy and I wouldn't wish anybody unwell no matter what their situation, however, I'm abivalent as I dont' actually know her as a human.
Not all, mine certainly won’t.
me neither, I’ll be working at the funeral
That ghoul has waited his whole life for this
🤣
Always thought the Queen as a good egg but i can see why folk are pro or anti the monarchy although can't see the value of getting into all that on this thread.
Plenty of famous people in the world from musicians to authors I've never met but, if I've some connection through listening to their music or reading their books, i'd still be sad if they died and i think for a lot of people it will be like that for the Queen having been present in people's lives for so long as the head of state
He must have a black suit and tie on standby.
I assume STW Towers will have an extensive protocol in place to handle her passing, whenever that occurs. I'm expecting threads left hanging half way down the page and replies not working properly for several days as a mark of respect....
Hannah is probably dyeing her hair black as I type this.
More republican than Royalist, but think it’ll be shame when the Queen goes, she’s been an ever present in my life, most people in the country today won’t remember a different person on the throne. My Dad was 5 when she took the throne. He’s 74 now.
I'm a bit like your dad... now 75 and about 6 years old when she was crowned. I do actually remember mum, dad and me joining other neighbours crowding into another neighbour's house to watch the coronation on their dinky sized screen B&W TV (the only house that had a TV). It's funny the things you remember.
As many others here, not a monarchist but have a respect for the queen. I won't be sad at her demise as I don't think it's appropriate, but I wish her a peaceful end.
TBH could the country survive another tory pm selection thing if it fell out the sky with them both in it.
I pondered that, as most workplaces have a limit on the number of employees on a single plane or in a car etc. But it didn't make sense, if Boris' plane had crashed other than the tragedy in itself nothing changed, so the risk was all on Liz and that's not changed whether Boris shared a plane or not.
not sure we’re all ready for King Charles at this stage.
He's looking at the (small sample size) precedent of odd number Charles not seeing out the job. If so it was a very long game by the current monarch!
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I assume STW Towers will have an extensive protocol in place to handle her passing, whenever that occurs. I’m expecting threads left hanging half way down the page and replies not working properly for several days as a mark of respect….
They're rolling the forum back to 2004?
Always thought the Queen as a good egg but i can see why folk are pro or anti the monarchy although can’t see the value of getting into all that on this thread.
You can be anti-monarchy but still have some respect for her as a person, certainly easier to respect than Edward VII or Prince Andrew.
not sure we’re all ready for King Charles at this stage.
Ideal time to call time on the whole thing and just get rid of the lot of them!
Just tuned in again after popping out. Think she’s unfortunately died and they’re just waiting rest of family to get there. I’d suggest an announcement at 5pm or 6pm.
Again I hope I’m wrong
she has been a credit to this country and humanity IMO.
Protecting a nonce. Interfering in the democratic pricess. Hoarding wealth
Those hoping for the end of the monarchy when she does pass, what would the head of state look like? As recent events have plainly shown, the pool of talent for the premiership is woefully shallow. Just imagine President Johnson...
Some idiot on Sky news has just said we can't speculate on the queen's health when that's all they've been doing for the past four hours. Some great journalism on display at the moment.
Just imagine President Johnson…
This argument baffles me. As PM he had more power than most presidents and was the person representing us anywhere important. So what difference does the ceremonial head of state make exactly?
I think she has passed she had a good innings either way.
I'd look to Ireland for a reasonable why to handle not having a Monarch. But how about we don't do this now?
Those hoping for the end of the monarchy when she does pass, what would the head of state look like? As recent events have plainly shown, the pool of talent for the premiership is woefully shallow.
They seem to manage across the Irish Sea where the presidents tend to be competent heads of state and not overly political. As it's a job that will be lacking in anything other than influence the power-crazed will still seek election to Westminster.
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most workplaces have a limit on the number of employees on a single plane or in a car etc
is that true? Never heard that one before.
Why do we need a head of state? We have a hugely bloated parliament as it is.
Those hoping for the end of the monarchy when she does pass, what would the head of state look like?
This is the issue. Having a monarch who accepts that they are just there for ceremonial purposes and defers to a democratic parliament is a hell of a lot better than having an elected president who can veto legislation, or even worse, appoint ministers. Yes, the Royal family is a joke, but tourists spend huge money taking photos in front of the palace and they have no real political power so best to just let them fade away into irrelevance. I genuinely feel sorry for the younger ones, their lives must be miserable, despite the wealth.
Protecting a nonce. Interfering in the democratic pricess. Hoarding wealth
Remind me when the queen has ever interfered with the democratic process? Genuine question
For senior leadership, yes, it can be that way. The place I worked for way back when had "no more than two" for people above a certain grade, but didn't limit how many engineers could get crammed in cattle class to the US for a conference.
But that was back in the day when normal people were allowed to travel for company events.
Why do we need a head of state? We have a hugely bloated parliament as it is.
Well if you lot up there insist on being represented in two parliaments... 😉
Just a 1000 or so times...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent
you have to wonder why she hasn't been taken to hospital, sure the RAF could spare a helicopter or 2 ?
