Grannies of any age should not be doing their business in our countryside.
I might stick a St George's flag on our house after England get knocked out. I'm very patriotic but can't bear to watch football.
Haven't seen a single one
In any other country displaying the national flag is seen as patriotic. Why do we consider it chavvy in england?
That probably has more to do with the people flying them than with the flag itself.
That probably has more to do with the people flying them than with the flag itself
English people ?
So the question has to be asked... if it's a particular person who's being patriotic, then why are the rest of the country not being the same ? It just seems a bit weird to me that it's looked down upon by society in general to support the country.
People here 'supported' Wiggins and Froome who are both of slightly dubious descent, but supporting the England team in the world cup is dismissed ? not just dismissed, but abused and insulted.
Being a Scouser there's a famous song the Kop have sung when people have questioned Gerrards performances in an England shirt "We're not English we are Scouse"... obviously it's in jest, but shows that Liverpool isn't a very patriotic part of the country... but I can totally understand why some parts are.
I just point and laugh at cars with these flags on, especially because I live in Wales 😀
I just point and laugh at cars with these flags on, especially because I live in Wales
See, now the Welsh are a good example. The wife is from Wales and is truly passionate at the Welsh history in her family.
I see loads of Welsh cars with the flag on the number plate, they really seem to care about it.
They do look a bit naff but it's cool that people are supporting the footy team even though they have no chance. I suppose those of us who aren't interested can ignore them and those don't have a team there already know what being a loser feels like.
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In any other country displaying the national flag is seen as patriotic. Why do we consider it chavvy in england?
Mainly because 99.9% of those displaying the flags are Chavs....
There's a real social class thing going on, business park I work on - 0 flags, council estate I cycle past on way to work, 60% cars have flags...
So footyflaps, living on a council estate makes you more likely to be a chav and support the England footy team, are you sure? Could be that they are getting the flags free with copies of the Sun?
Mainly because 99.9% of those displaying the flags are Chavs....
Yesterday I cycled past a very des res with a newish vehicle outside displaying flags.
I think you're wrong.
So footyflaps, living on a council estate makes you more likely to be a chav and support the England footy team, are you sure?
I would wager a large sum of money that you'd find a higher proportion of car flags in council estates than in non council estates over the UK.
I think you're wrong.
That is your prerogative.
The flag isnt upside down its back to front or correct to all the fans behind 😉
Yesterday I cycled past a very des res with a newish vehicle outside displaying flags.
Must be giving them away with The Times too 🙂
Whoever is giving them away someone in China is making a lot of £££££
Does anyone know how I can get this face paint off?
I've also seen "posh" cars with flags on too.
Overt displays of patriotism* like hanging big **** off flags from the front of your house meh, not my thing but knock yourself out. Festooning your car in cheap tat shitey flags, [b]that's[/b] worth taking the piss.
*strangely they only ever really seem to coincide with sporting events (predominantly football) the rest of the time there's no flags to be seen. Not sure how patriotic wanting some overpaid footballers to win actually is, that's a love of sport rather than love of your country.
In any other country displaying the national flag is seen as patriotic. Why do we consider it chavvy in england?
In Spain half the population considers it fascist to fly the national flag. As in Franco-loving-fascist.
If I could get an England flag to stick on my motorbike I would, and then I'd post a photo here knowing how much it pisses some people off 🙂
I want one for my bike.
Likewise. Some that fit in the end of my bars would be ideal.
On a different note, what's actually wrong with a three inch penis? Surely it's actually quite practical what with it not getting snagged in anything or flapping around like a wind sock...
Doesn't help that the far right parties all use the national flag as their emblem. We had a neighbour flying the union jack and I commented to the wife that the BNP had moved in, till she mentioned it was an old couple and probably to do with D-day etc. Personally, outside an Olympic stadium, I automatically associate the Union Jack with the BNP / Combat 18 etc.
On a different note, what's actually wrong with a three inch penis?
Can you get it out by easing down your bib shorts when you need a comfort break?
Hmm, didn't think of that but it's probably easier to roll up the leg and slip it out of the bottom. Which is probably safer since it's quite easy to inadvertently let go of ones Lycra, flicking the old chap upward whilst still attempting to drain.
Or slip a 12" length of old inner tube over it?
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I've also seen "posh" cars with flags on too.
Yes, they're used predominantly by chavs, not by people with crap cars. Chavs and "posh" cars are not mutually exclusive...
I agree with footflaps, I think there's a real class thing, and would also wager a fair bit that they're far more prevalent on council estates! They look shit.
The Welsh flag is brilliant cuz its got a DRAGON on it man, A DRAGON! How ace it that, not even the Chinese have a dragon on their flag, and they invented dragons. Somerset doesn't count.
The Queens flag has dragons and lions on it, but they are cancelled out by having a harp aswell.
I think you're wrong.
I think you don't know the difference between anecdote and data. 😉
I can't argue with that. I think I'll become Welsh. What do I need? A funny accent with more Ls than strictly necessary? A great singing voice? A cheery countenance? Leeks?
very true, but how is everyone else deciding that 99% of car flag wavers are chavs? They'll be guessing based on different factors.Chavs and "posh" cars are not mutually exclusive..
One flawed, badly reasoned viewpoint is deserving of another 🙂
Is it St Georges day? Oh no it's St Rooney day.
How patriotic is it to festoon your Japanese car with Chinese-made flags?
How patriotic is it to festoon your Japanese car with Chinese-made flags?
Very?
True, but miserable. What are your views on Guy Fawkes night?
Nothing to do with it, people don't festoon their cars with cheap plastic tat that falls off and litters the countryside for Bonfire Night.
I would guess that you're OK with people tossing their food wrappers, plastic bottles, etc out of their car windows as well?
...people don't festoon their cars with cheap plastic tat that falls off and litters the countryside for Bonfire Night.
No, they just shoot their rubbish into the sky and hope for the best.
So far I've seen Portugeuse, Ghanaian, Nigerian, Colombian, Dutch, Italian, Spanish, Mexican, Greek, Algerian and Brazilian flags on cars where I live. I'm hoping to get the full set. I love the world Cup. 😀
No, they just shoot their rubbish into the sky and hope for the best.
True, but how much do you actually see? I see the occasional stick with a bit of burnt paper on, which [i]is[/i] biodegradable, and most tend to be in urban areas.
STW Hyacinth Buckets go into orbit as thousands of these are released on Thursday night...
EDIT: Don't worry CZ, they're "fully biodegradable."
In what way? Using bamboo strips? That stuff can cut a cow or horse's insides to ribbons, and they're incendiary; there have been a number of heath fires, houses burned out from the thatch catching fire, and crop fires blamed on those damned things.
I dont understand what is meant to be patriotic about driving around with defaced england flags on it. The last time I checked St Georges flag didnt have any writing on it
I saw a Bentley with those flags on the other day - even on a footballer's Bentley I wouldn't expect that!
To be fair most of the cars I see them on are family cars and I'm sure the kids love getting into the spirit.
My wide is Danish and most Danes have a flag pole in their garden and Danish flags are in abundance at all birthday parties, graduations etc.. Doesn't appear to be right wing at all but invert the flag to be the St Georges cross and suddenly it's all far right and something to be embarrassed of, strange.
INRA TS but did anyone see the tv programme in which they drove a whote Nova around Glasgow with one?
It got trashed every time it was parked 😛
Didn't see that, but I have seen quite a few trashed Glaswegians.
IMO the only cars with flags on should be heads of state, not dickheads from estates 😀
Has anyone mentioned those who flaunt their patriotism by cheering for England in public venues such as pubs ?
Quite disgraceful imo. A quiet demeanor and look of eager expectation is all that is required.
True, but miserable. What are your views on Guy Fawkes night?Nothing to do with it, people don't festoon their cars with cheap plastic tat that falls off and litters the countryside for Bonfire Night.
I would guess that you're OK with people tossing their food wrappers, plastic bottles, etc out of their car windows as well?
I feel it has everything to do with it. It's a show of patriotism, a national event that brings people together. It is, dare I say it, fun, (for most involved)
Inevitably these events have a downside or two, one of which is litter, as you have mentioned.
It's a shame the England games aren't on at either 8am or 5pm. Commuting on the road bike would be a pleasure with so many folks watching the game instead of driving about.
Last World Cup England played at least two (I think) of their games at tea time. I was commuting around the M60/M62 for my job at the time and to hit the M60 and have it virtually empty at 5pm on a week night was absolutely brilliant.
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You lot are so judgmental 😥
He's just knocked about 25% of the value of his neighbours houses!
That sounds more like patriotism, cheap tat flags on your car only when england play a major football tournament? like I said doesn't really sound [i]that [/i]patriotic. The rest of the time old georgey boy's cross is mostly only used by the edl and chums.My wide is Danish and most Danes have a flag pole in their garden and Danish flags are in abundance at all birthday parties, graduations etc..
