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[Closed] This seatpost? Why, yes. Yes it is.

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£700
Needs recharging after 40 hrs or so of riding

https://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/components/seat-post-seat-pin/product/rockshox-reverb-axs-dropper-review-52442/

Wireless shifting I get, but the pie seems to be a solution to a problem that's already been solved by good hose routing (Such as the new Stumpy, among others)


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 8:51 pm
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Much as I loathe your online persona 🙂 , you could be right on this one.

However, I noticed on the puff video posted on the other thread that a single RH shifter could be programmed to do both the derailleur and the dropper.

Moar streamlined cockpit, etc.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 8:58 pm
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Bet it will be available for much less than that, within a year as well. This should be SRAMs way of getting folk into their product lines. Folk buy the seatpost, like how it looks/works, so they consider (at least) upgrading their their mech and shifter too (as its all integrated), stealing (more) market share off shimano, who seem to be struggling to get a full mechanical groupset to market at the moment, never mind a wireless leccy one.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 9:06 pm
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I like the look of the seatpost (except the collar colour), especially the “Vent valve” and would be really easy to swap between bikes
I don’t think you can do shifting and dropper on just the RH lever as it only has two buttons, think you need both remotes but can assign the dropper to one of the rh buttons


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 9:13 pm
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I love the idea of a hoseless dropper, ease of installation, removal, no routing problems, one less hole for water to get in your frame, etc, but.....
£700, seven hundred ****ing quid.... Seriously?
Mountain biking has completely lost the plot.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 9:14 pm
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I don’t think you can do shifting and dropper on just the RH lever as it only has two buttons, think you need both remotes but can assign the dropper to one of the rh buttons

It's got 3, 2 thumb operated ones as you'd expect, and one you can operate with you knuckle when sprinting, all fully programmable


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 9:18 pm
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Heavier than the Vyron and more than double the cost. Although it seems more responsive admittedly. I'm not feeling it


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 9:18 pm
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🤣 @Martin!

Are you keeping detailed files as well! (#creepystalker! )


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 9:25 pm
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40hours between charges?

Based on RS's recommended service intervals I presume that means they'll do it for you......

(I liked my reverb, but not enough to want to spend another £200 on a replacement, let alone this).


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:24 pm
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Just **** off!

It's a seatpost!

700 ****ing quid!

**** off and get in the ****ing sea!


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:30 pm
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Mountain biking has completely lost the plot.

No, because you can still get a good FS for under a grand, and will continue to be able to do so. No-one said that motoring had lost the plot when Bugatti released the Veyron.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:32 pm
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We'll put you down as a maybe then, gobuchul?


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:39 pm
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What would you do with the now redundant holes in your frame?!


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:48 pm
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Eagle RH Controller has 2 inputs not 3.
The 'Sprint' shift activated with the index finger is simply linked to the upper of the two inputs on the thumb side.

40 hours is average total ride time for the post - everyone is different but id anticipate that to last me a month.

Full service interval has moved from 200 to 600 hours due to the new improved internals.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:51 pm
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Good job it's so easy on the eye. Imagine if it had been 700 quid and ugly as ****?


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:52 pm
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£700 for an electric seatpost?

I know a lady or two who've apparently bought a bloody good one from Love Honey for a tenth of that price, they had much longer service intervals too.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:57 pm
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TBH £700 for a fork these days feels like I'm victim to licensed banditry, let alone a seatpost, even if it's made of KITT.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 10:59 pm
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Before the brexit referendum I bought an lb prebuilt carbon wheelset on hope hubs for less than that. Including shipping and tax.

Just to put things into perspective.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 11:28 pm
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My couch cost that and can seat three times as many people.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 11:30 pm
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Battery charge will last longer than the post will


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 11:55 pm
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Single bolt saddle clamps aren’t something I’m a huge fan of because it’s hard to get them to tighten enough to avoid them moving under load, but during my brief stint using the post, I had no issues with the saddle slipping.

The actual ****? Who the **** asked Chris Moyles to test it? Cut down on the pies you fat knacker. Or just stop talking bollocks.

I know I’ve touched on this already, but the lack of cables or hose means the new Reverb AXS removes all of the hassle when it comes to fitting a post. While others can claim this too, the Reverb trumps them in terms of performance.

Oh ****ing really?

Here you go, 87.5x cheaper, 260odd grams lighter, no wires and no ****ing battery that means you can't move your post if it dies:

https://www.wiggle.co.uk/brand-x-inline-6061-seatpost/

No, because you can still get a good FS for under a grand, and will continue to be able to do so. No-one said that motoring had lost the plot when Bugatti released the Veyron.

Except a Veyron outperforms a [insert modest sports car here] without a performance penalty (weight in this case). And was an engineering masterpiece. This is a widget for ****s with more money than sense.

This post is designed to exclusively cater to the peak alpha dickhead market. I mean yeah, the plot was lost long ago with a lot of stuff but this is just another level of idiocy. Thats about a fifth of my monthly take home and I'm on a bloody good wage. For a ****ing seat post!


 
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How long before someone hacks it and your shifters so that they can, from the comfort of their front room, use their phone to change your gears, and extend your post while the bike is going up and your are coming down. Best case scenario you go over the bars. Worse case scenario doesn't even bear thinking about....


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 3:56 am
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I’m looking forward to the day when ninety percent of my bike is wireless. It’ll be great when I’m in the arse end of nowhere and the bike stops working because it needs a ****ing firmware update.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 7:39 am
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So if your mate has one too and drops his saddle while he's next to you, does the signal from his shifter drop your post as well, or are they individually paired? Not that it really matters because I don't think I'll be spending more than my bike's worth on a seatpost.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 8:09 am
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What would you do with the now redundant holes in your frame?!

SRAM are offering AXS blanking plates as accessories, priced at a reasonable £49.99, each.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 8:18 am
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I might get one. I’ll have to sell the bike to fund it, but it’ll be worth it just to have the latest pointless upgrade. How much are unicycles? I can put the remote on one of my fingers.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 8:36 am
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how do you keep a straight face selling that ?


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 8:53 am
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So if your mate has one too and drops his saddle while he’s next to you, does the signal from his shifter drop your post as well, or are they individually paired? Not that it really matters because I don’t think I’ll be spending more than my bike’s worth on a seatpost.

I can only speak for the Vyron that it's paired only to that button, so if i drop mine, it drops only mine, it's not really an issue at all that's worth worrying about that's for sure.

Whilst the Vyron may not be the best dropper for speed, it's consistent and can be removed in seconds. That's important for me as i rarely run a dropper as i find all droppers a bit 'flakey' in some way or another and have a perception they're a bit fragile compared to static posts. This is based upon ownership of a few and seeing many threads on forums. So i keep my dropper off the bike to save it being used as often.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 8:54 am
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Wow.

You know something's overpriced when Flash moans about it. 🙂

I await the STW front page review which will declare it 'revolutionary' and 'expensive but worth it' along with all the £1200 shocks, £1000 fork springs and £100 grips.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 9:07 am
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And was an engineering masterpiece. This is a widget for **** with more money than sense.

Snort

Don't think you lot quite understand retail. Stuff is priced to make money, if someone buys it then it's worth it. The world is full of overpriced bollocks, what made you think MTBing was different? You can get cassettes for £350 these days you know.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 9:20 am
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Knowing SRAM they've probably over thought & engineered it... is it wireless, but with a hydraulic actuator in the button that'll need constant bleeding???


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 9:34 am
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So you're agreeing then?

And yes I'm quite aware that there is plenty of overpriced shite out there, as per "the plot was lost long ago with a lot of stuff but this is just another level of idiocy".

As a sport, we must be some of the worst consumerism driven keep up with the Jones's idiots out there. The saddest thing is people just don't care and find all sorts of tenuous reasons to justify this shallow crap.


 
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Don’t think you lot quite understand retail. Stuff is priced to make money, if someone buys it then it’s worth it.

My understanding was people say oh ah yes I'd buy that if it was oooh ahh yes made in....reality is **** that I'll wait for it to be in the sale


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 9:39 am
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We know.

It's not being called out, it's being normalised and encouraged.

Isla's bikes for older people are genuine innovation and progress.
This is a pisstake.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 9:40 am
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When people are prepared to pay over £200 for trendy boots, why wouldn't they have the spare readies to make themselves feel that good when they press the button to lower their seatpost?
And, right, just imagine how much the aftermarket buttons will be, for those fussy about their buttons! Awesome.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 9:46 am
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As a sport, we must be some of the worst consumerism driven keep up with the Jones’s idiots out there. The saddest thing is people just don’t care and find all sorts of tenuous reasons to justify this shallow crap.

Not at all. I’m a bike tart and like shiny new bike bits. I couldn’t give less of a shit what anyone else rides/how they spend their money.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 9:48 am
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It wasn't long ago that the whole idea of pressing a button to lower your seatpost was considered as a frivolous expense in some quarters. What was wrong with just stopping at the top, undoing the QR and sliding the seatpost down?

A Thomson dropper post for 400 quid? Madness!

There does seem to be a market for 7K bikes - this will be supplied on those in the same way that fancy features are used to seal the deal on an expensive car.

Eventually those features will trickle down into cheaper bikes.

No-one actually needs an expensive car or an expensive bike. But people buy them anyway. And as long as that happens, the industry will keep coming up with gizmos like this to entice them.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 9:57 am
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& a Magura one that is also electronic retails for £350

But £700 for a reverb that will fail & need to be replaced every 3 months...


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 10:22 am
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What's clever in a marketing sense about the wireless stuff is that it effectively ties you into their product line.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 10:26 am
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As a sport, we must be some of the worst consumerism driven keep up with the Jones’s idiots out there.

No, we're no different to anyone else*. Cos we're people, you know? Although you seriously underestimate the number of people who are simply riding regular or even old bikes all the time. You can still get plenty of 9 speed kit on CRC, that tells you it's still being bought and used.

* except maybe fell runners.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 10:27 am
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Pah! Just wait till I bring out my seatpost & gear system that works on thought process. All you say is, 'saddle down/up' or 'gear up/dpwn'. Not even any buttons to press.
You'll see.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 10:29 am
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What’s clever in a marketing sense about the wireless stuff is that it effectively ties you into their product line.

No more so than wired, even cable, systems?


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 10:31 am
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I'm talking about your typical "sport" cyclist, not cyclists as a whole. I'm well aware 9sp is still more than catered for.

As for the "trickle down" argument, that's pish. What is the real difference between that post and a normal reverb besides a valve they could have easily incorporated into their lighter and cheaper mechanically operated one? Cmon, one performance benefit.

Feel good factor? Exactly my point. If you feel your life will be improved by spunking £700 on something that offers absolutely no benefit over something at a fraction of the price (with already known reliability issues) then go ahead. Doesn't mean I'm not right.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 10:59 am
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except maybe fell runners.

And triathletes.
Weirdos.

No more so than wired, even cable, systems?

Increasingly so.
Which is why some of us choose to stick to 9 speed with it's cross compatability.
Same with bar end shifters - I don't want to be overly tied into a system which limits my choices.

And it's a conscious decision by manufacturers to do this, the limitation of choice by the promotion of integration.


 
Posted : 07/02/2019 11:19 am
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It's got its ups and downs.


 
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