Kind of sick of the pathetic self righteousness that the magazine seems to be pressing at the moment. Firstly the constant prissiness about women in maxxis catalogues etc. and now you're trying to ram remain down our throats, by some spurious link to cycling.
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I'll clarify the debate for those of you who are still a little confused about how this referendum will effect their sport; brexit or no brexit, it won't make a blind bit of difference to how I ride my mountain bike[/b]. I'll still go to Chamonix in the summer. I'll still ride in Spain in the Winter. Nothing will change. There will still be clif bars in my local shop, and the peak district isn't going to sink into the sea.
If I wanted to read a self-righteous left wing tabloid, I could go on the Guardian and cry myself fragile little self to sleep at night.
This is meant to be a cycling magazine.
In reference to this ludicrous piece:
all seems reasonable comment to me.
you may not agree with some of the statements - which are factually wrong do you think?
I assume you're now boycotting and writing to any company that has made a public statement on it's pro/anti leave stance?
[edit] sorry - why do you think being pro-remain is left wing? Unless you're so far right *everyone* appears left wing there's a lot of Tories who think exit is a mistake too?
You don't pay to use the site so feel free to walk away if you don't like what the owners choose to do with it would be my advice.
Can you clarify which bits are ludicrous?
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seems quite balanced to me ....
Well I'm sick of it all and what I interpret as project fear from both sides. Its been a race to the bottom.
poor rant. 2/10.
must try harder.
Well I'm sick of it all and what I interpret as project fear from both sides. Its been a race to the bottom.
Did you really expect anything less?
will effect
lol
I doubt the magazine owners would give a flying **** if you were so distraught that the door hit you on the way out.
Rorschach
🙂
Although the 1st one was pretty good too!
will effect
lol
But you did get what he meaned, right ?
It's political correctness gone mad! What we need is someone straight talking to take on the Establishment and put these Lefty Liberals back in their box.
If I wanted to read a self-righteous left wing tabloid
Wait. Wanting to stay in Europe is "left wing" ??
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So, can anyone explain which parts of that article aren't true?
Wait. Wanting to stay in Europe is "left wing" ??
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The bits he does'nt like
Another name added to the watch list at the Gretna Green Passport Control checkpoint....
Its been a race to the bottom
Only for the downhillers.
Is there not a more right wing mountain biking magazine out there more suited to your tastes that disrespects women and has a ear of foreigners?
With any luck you will be able to get access to the content for free and able to slag them off at the same time
Dude are you lost?
Daily Mail is over there >>>
They're pointing how it may effect mountain biking, that seems to fair to write about in a mountain bike website. I'm not sure they're ramming it down your throat or telling you not to go to Spain. They're also not saying you won't be able to buy over priced and marketed snack bars.
The article forgets to mention that Rubber may be more expensive but Hope products will potentially be cheaper. Aluminium will not be hit with such massive import duties.
Also bikes and bike parts imported could well be cheaper as they are currently hit with massive import duties into the EU. As we don't really have a home grown bike industry of any such size, unlike the Germans and Dutch, there isn't such an incentive to put these duties in place or keep them so high. So bikes and parts from all our favourite manufacturers might tumble in price. "Bicycles made in China carry an additional (anti dumping) duty of 48.5 %."
Ah, through all the piles of bullshit being poured into the argument from both sides, the few facts that remain all say that remaining is the only sensible thing to do.
Brexiters don't like facts, they use "common sense", gut feeling, but mostly fear of foreigners.
@Joe offer a counter arguement, or simply avoid the sub 5% of content on here that's about the EU.
Here we go again with miketually using sexy young blondes to sell us something
I'm VERY left wing (as in, I think the Guardian is a puppet of the establishment, left wing) and I might well be voting out (though I will probably spoil my paper as I don't want either option really).
As far as I'm aware this magazine can publish what it likes?
No?
Would you have complained had they done a pro-brexit article?
The article forgets to mention that Rubber may be more expensive but Hope products will potentially be cheaper. Aluminium will not be hit with such massive import duties.
How much of Hope's business is exporting to the EU? What effect will losing some of that business have on their business?
All the major bicycle brake manufacturers might pull out of the European market.....
Vote no to Brakesit 😉
They're also not saying you won't be able to buy over priced and marketed snack bars.
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Brexiters don't like facts, they use "common sense", gut feeling, but mostly fear of foreigners.
Gordon Brown has a word for them....
I will probably spoil my paper as I don't want either option really
Option 3: Shake It All About
Option 3: Shake It All About
...but what if that is REALLY what it's all about?
lol @ 'More expensive rubber'
Right that's it, the wife's on the pill if brexit wins.
Right that's it, the wife's on the pill if brexit wins.
Ten months too late jekyll 😀
The Guardian isn't particularly leftwing. It has attempted loads of hatchet jobs on people like Corbyn and Vanessa Redgrave over their attitudes towards Palestine.
I love a good thread derailing
(which makes you all derailleurs - well done)
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Ready, Folks!
place your bets Please!!!
OP - I assume that you're an Old White Guy, much like me?
I don't know about you, but I don't want the pastime I love to be all about other OWGs, I quite like the idea of some inclusivity too and I'm not averse to sharing the trails with people who would otherwise be put off with the overwhelming OWGness of it all.
I also have nieces, who enjoy getting out on their bikes. It pains me to think that the very best that the industry could do for them is to cynically sell them a pink frame at a cost premium and then to peddle a stream of scantily clad glamour models draped over bikes as the ideal that female mountain bikers should look up to. Seriously, it's not the 1970s - if you're one of the Neanderthals on the STW facebook feed who posts stuff like "only ugly women complain about this sort of thing", then perhaps you need to go away and find another publication that fits your worldview. If you're not a knuckledragger, then perhaps try applying some empathy to the issue, putting the testosterone in the back seat for a minute.
As for those who want to go abroad and enjoy their bikes, the prospect of Brexit does pose a few very real issues - in the short term the pound isn't doing particularly well, but in the long term there's issues like reciprocal healthcare between post Brexit Britain and EU member states which anyone would do well to be aware of.
Best to put the tinfoil hat away, eh?
I agree with the op re the mags eu article, it was hardly a balanced bit of journalism.
It can obviously print what it likes within reason,but that's (Imo) a fairly low quality bit of journalism
What would be embarrassing for Joe is if he'd used this forum to promote his own political agenda, say with a topic about his own little petition to keep those nasty foreigners from investing in property.
a fairly low quality bit of journalism
........whereas the sun front page from the other day wasn't?
I dont get it?
2 things stand out
1. It is a forum, people get hurt (emotionally)
2. Once you discover the agenda stop reading.
The article forgets to mention that Rubber may be more expensive but Hope products will potentially be cheaper. Aluminium will not be hit with such massive import duties.
I think your logic is a bit off, the pound will be worth less than it is now so unless we process our own Aluminum the materials cost will go up, which will need to be passed onto the consumer.
However wages should go down, due to the recession and the ability to remove some our employment rights foisted on us the EU; so that might offset the materials increase as I suspect materials are only a very small part of the cost.
So if you still have a job, then yes Hope parts might be cheaper, and if you don't have a job or a woman, or disabled or injured, or sick then I doubt you will care.
The quality of the air wont go down as the prevailing wind is North Easterly in my parts and so tends not to come from Europe(selfish I know).
But I reckon he'd be right about the jobs, scarey that bit. I reckon MTB 'guide'/ Ski chalet 'slave' will be low on the Brexit negotiating list.
