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igrf - Member
It's a difficult one this, compared to the OP, I must have had a sheltered life and or have always fought back however disadvantaged my size might have put me at in the face of rudeness and aggression, so the worse person I ever had revealed to me unfortunately was a friend on a ski trip
I struggle with long sentences
Remind me.. How did Jimmy Saville get away with it for so long again...?
and yes he's had a go at my girls
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And you haven't beaten him to death with a large bat??? Not that I condone violence or anything...
[i]How did Jimmy Saville get away with it for so long again[/i]
Everyone knew, no one said.
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And you haven't beaten him to death with a large bat???[/i]
and that. he'd be getting more than a few cutting remarks.
What a beautiful thread 😯
Getting back to lorryists, i used to drive one in America.
Back in 2000 i worked for a company called Schneider national driving up and down the 11 western states. I've no experience of British lorryers but fudge me American truckists are by far the worst most filthiest and wretched people I've ever seen.
Apparently it's all the farmers trying to earn extra money, the problem being they're not used to hanging. around normal people and don't know how to behave.
Inbred fools.
Got to be with yunki, khani and wwaswas on their opinions
Was going to post a semi-serious, slightly amusing response, but suddenly I'm not. On phone, so can't add dis-believing, starey smiley.
Maybe you're the bad person?
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and that. he'd be getting more than a few cutting remarks.
INDEED.
and yes he's had a go at my girls
and you still "socialise" with him.
Wow.
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When I was growing up in a small village in Somerset there was a pony school (read: bloke in a Caravan with some raggedy flea bitten ponies). He used to have lots of the local kids over for lessons and seemed like a good sort. He helped out my dad when the drains got stuck and let us ride the ponies whenever we wanted.
He had a young girl (20ish) and her daughter help him out regularly. Some years after I had left home, I heard that he had committed suicide because he had been caught molesting the daughter of the girl who helped him. Apparently she was one of many who he had abused in our village. He has to be the worst.
Erm... There's no statute of limitations on child sex offenses is there? Getting in touch with the police now might not be a bad idea, especially if as you say it wasn't a one off.
Incompetent, lying, deceitful, bullying, passive-aggressive 'colleague' who really wanted my job and who kept trying to pass off other peoples' ideas as his own.
He didn't get past probation, I hope I helped with that, but still ended up hanging around for a year making all our lives a misery while the HR cogs ground.
1. It's amazing what permy staff can get away with.
2. I hope I never see him again.
I am with reporting that bloke igrf mentions too.
Shocking.
American? Drives an old TVR?
Not ringing any bells? Should I know him?
nealglover - Member
and yes he's had a go at my girls
and you still "socialise" with him.Wow.
And to all the other quotes, this is why it's so bloody difficult, any normal bad person, easy to deal with, this bloke is a really likeable guy, kind of almost grown up with the idiot, saved his life once pulled him out of the sea, I'm supposed to be skiing with him and his gang right now kind of reunion but work got in the way (it's been twenty years since I skied with them).
Things were different back then, which is exactly how Jimmy Saville did get away with it, then time rolls on and here we are in our sixties, me still riddled with guilt I didn't act in the way some of you point out and frankly even now I wouldn't, I've no idea what went on in that room, the little girl was giggling away and gave a mock scream but it was more naughty delight than fear or horror.
So fast forward to this, he is probably the worse person I know, yet will do nothing about, it's the human condition, we do this, it's all very well bashing bile at a keyboard, but real life is more complicated. My girls? They are well capable of dealing with ****s like him which is probably why he preyed on the young innocent types which he did for some time after (not quite as young obviously, 18, 19 yr olds). Anyway no wish to drag Jimmy Saville back into the frame, but there are lots like him and in some cases it takes two to tango. (And there's no BBC to claim compensayshun from in this case)
in some cases it takes two to tango.
Not when they are a minor.
in some cases it takes two to tango.Not when they are a minor.
Really? Do you get out much? Never watched 'Beatle Mania' amongst teen and pre teen girls? Do you really think none of those pop stars of the sixties and seventies didn't take full advantage?
i do know 1 that id stick on here - only he resides on here* occasionally........
* that should raise paranoia amongst some folk on here im sure 😉 - although i am being serious theres one user i know on here i wouldnt give the steam off my piss.
[i]Not ringing any bells? Should I know him? [/i]
Nope, this wasn't where we worked. One of my consultancy companies before that.
Had a mate from school who was always a bit odd but once he discovered drink and drugs was a liability. After numerous escapades involving legal and illegal drugs, prostitutes, vomit etc we eventually dropped him after he bricked the front window of a house of a 14 year old girl who had spurned his drunken advance one day. We got him to go down and confess and pay for the damage in the hope he'd change his behaviour. He didn't, didn't really see him again.
I've worked with some truly shocking human beings (constantly backstabbing, badmouthing people, intentionally sabotaging people etc) but they weren't "in my life" so it was never a problem. My ex-boss though was a standout in that area and is one of the few people I've known that I'd say are just plain bad rather than messed up.
I'd answer the same as Hora. Me.
a former friend of mine was incredibly selfish. He'd often host parties at his house which was nice of him to organise and host, but if anyone else wanted to host people he HAD to be invited, or worse he'd hijack the event and host it himself. At one of his birthday parties (which i only ever attended to see the other people going) one of the neighbours came around and asked if after nine we'd mind keeping the noise down as her husband had just got out of hospital after a tumour removal - fair enough we all thought. Fast forward a few hours and after 9pm we turn the music down. 'Friend' storms to the stereo and turn it up even louder. We turn it down again, he turns it up again. Later in the evening (of every single party) he'd get upset, angry and annoyed at everyone else, go upstairs and start slagging everyone off to whoever went to see if he was ok. He frequently accused his gf and me of having an affair behind his back, calling us all sorts of stuff.
I'm glad i cut him out of my life.
Things were different back then
It takes two to tango
Do you really think none of those pop stars of the sixties and seventies didn't take full advantage?
Sorry dude but abuse is abuse, simple. No excuses, no sharing the blame with a minor. That's why there is a legal age of consent. RE the 60's pop starts, hopefully the J. Saville enquiry will bring a few chickens home to roost.
By doing nothing, you are enabling his habits. But that's your choice. However if I had a "friend" who was a paedo *and* had a pop at my daughter, I'm not sure if I would be quite so relaxed about it.
My father.
For so mnay years I wondered why he left my mom and two very young sons.
I met him at my grand fathers funeral 30 years later after he pulled up in my grand fathers car. After a day in his company I was so pleased he wasn't a part of my life.
As for any others, they're pretty much low rent compared to some described on here.
Any estate agent 😉
My best mate and his girlfriend of 5 years decided to sell their house, give up jobs to travel around asia and reside in Australia
2 week before they went, he dumped her with the excuse "he wanted to shag his way around asia"
yes she sold her car, house and quit her job already.
My uncle introduced himself to me at my mother's funeral as my other uncle's brother... I don't see him anymore.
My wife bought an on going hair salon, the lady owner was having a baby and her hubby had persuaded her to sell it because he didn't want her to have any hassle once the new child was born.
After child birth, whilst she was still in hospital he told her he was leaving her for someone else and had bought a BMW with the money.
Never saw her for years and out of the blue she turned up at the shop asking to lend £50, the wife felt sorry for her and gave her it, never seen her again.
The last place I worked had an absolutely poisonous atmosphere largely down to two women who worked there. Both were divorced and lived alone. Over time it became apparent that they plotted and schemed to inflict misery on everyone they worked with by making their jobs impossible, getting them in trouble or fired. I simply could not fathom how an adult could make the decision to interact with the world this way.
I also knew a guy who was so obsessed with pulling strokes on people that he would actually damage himself in order to con people.
I won't start on my mother in law though. I could be a better person as well.
my god, this thread is ****ed up.
My mums first husband, and her mum.
They were sleeping together. Mum found out and left him immediately. She always struggled with her mum after that, but didn't tell her dad what had been going on.
shocked me when I found out a few years ago when my gran was lose to death.
Although insignificant compared to some on this thread one of my old bosses was a particularly reptilian character.
Favourite trick was to go out on the lash with his boss and then stumble in a couple of hours late the next morning pretty much incoherent then disappearing to a 'meeting' returning an hour or so later with a red mark on his face where he'd crashed out and a mysterious sniff.
Other gems were visiting houses of ill repute when his wife was pregnant and generally being an utterly unpleasant stroker.
Really? Do you get out much? Never watched 'Beatle Mania' amongst teen and pre teen girls? Do you really think none of those pop stars of the sixties and seventies didn't take full advantage?
The point being he was old enough to know what he was doing was wrong and illegal. If he was 14 and she was 13 then it’s different - that’s just two kids experimenting. There never was and never will be an excuse for what he did and to think there can be acceptable circumstances is equally wrong.
The person who abused my stepdaughter.
My (now deceased) twin spinster Aunts believed that famine was Gods way of keeping down the numbers of black people.
I donated their stamp and coin collection to Oxfam.
Things were different back then
and in some cases it takes two to tango
Very weak. You're an apologist for a pedophile.
I didn't act in the way some of you point out and frankly even now I wouldn't,
And if it was "different back then" then how come you would still not do anything if the same thing happened now.
Sorry but there is simply no excuse for that.
... it's all very well bashing bile at a keyboard
You are the one who basically protecting a pedophile, you can't seriously be trying to claim the moral high ground by slating people for telling you that's not acceptable 😯
My physically and verbally abusive step-mother Doria Oakes (nee Dyer), her mother who sexually abused me from age 8 to age 11, Doreen Dyer and my coward of a father Gordon Oakes - who stood by and did nothing to help/save me.
Step-mother used to scream at me "You're fat, you're ugly and you're mad. You don't belong in this family". I was ****ed up for many many years. It hurt so much when I was a kid but now I'm SO GLAD I don't "belong" to them!
EDIT: God, my hands are shaking just typing this... it was horrendous.
Karin, that's a ghastly way to grow up. I'd say have a e-hug but it may not be appropriate.
Oh Karin that's awful mate, i hate hearing of another humans suffering, my soul aches for you as a child I want to reach out a comforting hand to your shoulder.
Karin - Horrifying. Glad that you've got the "power" over that situation and can talk about it as somewhere as random as a bike forum.
igrf - You should call the police and let them decide who is harmless and who isn't. Silence is only one step above facilitating
I used to know a complete **** who now runs a cycle holiday company - never has the world met anyone as utterly self centred.
Thanks, I wish I hadn't posted it really, I feel all upset again - I'm 57 now and it still has the power to upset me. This is why paedophilia is such a terrible crime, it affects you for such a long time (for ever?) - although I don't often think about it these days. It's just that I was talking to my aunt on Sunday (my father's sister) who was apologising for him (he died when I was 21) and is still in touch with step-mother. WHY?! I decided after that conversation to break off all contact with her - it's never been acknowledged/validated, only by counsellors. Sorry, I'm going on now. I'll stop.
i must be..... i made a spelling mistake one time on a forum*
*may have been more than one time 😳 😳 😆
karinofnine, no need to apologise. terrible way to grow up, my heart goes out to you.