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[Closed] The use of cycle lanes.

 Olly
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"I dont have to use the cycle lanes, as they are often not fit for purpose.
Ironically, the reason they are not fit for purpose is cockwombles like you grumbling about their existence, resulting in half arsed attempts. Get on board, and perhaps we can use them"


 
Posted : 24/01/2022 2:59 pm
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Its really not Olly.  Its because the folk designing and specifying them do not follow the standards and I bet in most cases havn't ridden a bike since they were kids.  some of the design is unridable


 
Posted : 24/01/2022 3:20 pm
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Ironically, the reason they are not fit for purpose is cockwombles like you grumbling about their existence,

I dont suppose you have any evidence for this batshit claim?
Its almost met police investigation into tory parties level in the chicken and egg approach.
Are you seriously claiming there are a bunch of designers who had been busy designing the perfect system but accidently popped onto singletrackworld at lunchtime and were so disheartened by the fact people were annoyed by the crap paths they ripped up the designs for the perfect system and decided to carry on with the crap.


 
Posted : 24/01/2022 3:30 pm
 poly
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@olly

“I dont have to use the cycle lanes, as they are often not fit for purpose.
Ironically, the reason they are not fit for purpose is cockwombles like you grumbling about their existence, resulting in half arsed attempts. Get on board, and perhaps we can use them”

Your post isn't clear? are you saying we should use cycle lanes even if they are not fit for purpose? I don't know anyone who would rather ride in traffic than use a well constructed, properly maintained cycleway that: is litter free, doesn't stop/start at every junction, isn't likely to be crowded with pedestrians, follows a relatively direct route, doesn't include some random staircase/really steep slope/tight antivehicle chicanes which will mean I have to push, etc, doesn't have parked cars, doesn't stop and throw me into live traffic because there's a traffic island and not enough space, etc. [personally I don't mind if its lit or not - but appreciate others will prefer well lit, with less places for dodgy folk to hide] Otherwise I'll use the road because my objective is to get from A-B either as hassle free as possible and expending the minimum energy.

If we genuinely believe in active travel being part of the solution we need to enable it - and that means the people who design where the paint goes need to learn what works. Its not difficult to learn - get a bike and go ride the paths in your area then discuss what was good/bad, you'll get 90% of it right just doing that. Who else design a product they never use themselves and gets it right? The bigger issue is those who empower the designer to put it down in the way that prioritised the healthier, greener solution and disadvantages others...


 
Posted : 24/01/2022 4:37 pm
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