How shrewd is McGregor though...
As others have said this is a complete farce. Floyd will not knock him out early as that's not his style and I wouldn't be surprised if mcgregor sees the final bell. But he'll have been schooled.
People go on about mcgregors power. If a top pfp fighter like alvarez who also hits pretty hard and is bigger than mcgregor can't trouble Floyd then mcgregor won't.
Sure Floyd may completely lose focus and walk into a haymaker, but that's not happened in 49*fights and it won't happen now. Only way Floyd loses is if he's ridiculously careless..and even then mcgregor would need skills to exploit.
I put in the caveat that I also said bellow had no chance against Haye.. But surely this one is even more of a 'foregone conclusion'
The great white hope sparring with Chris van Heerden.
Horrible news about Matt Hughes 🙁
Doesn't sound good.
Going back to McGregor...where I think he may have a chance is that as a martial artist his movements are difference...I'm just wondering if Connor may put him off...
I'm not ruling Connor out, he's a special athlete!
If he tries to hold a Queensbury stance and style though it really will not end well!!
The 2nd best boxer of Floyd's generation couldn't lay a glove on him.
Barring a phantom punch, something which HoF greats have never been able to do to Floyd, McGregor will be humiliated.
Although Floyd will probably carry him the 12 rounds but Conor won't win a single round never mind the fight
it will be the luckiest punch of all time if he manages
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There seems to be quite a few mma fans who think that McGregor somehow may have a chance. They probably just don't realise just how good floyd is. McGregor will not land a single decent punch on floyd. McGregor wouldn't stand a chance with a decent pro boxer, trying to connect let alone knock out, which is undoubtedly what he will try to do, with quite possibly the best boxer there has ever been, will be nigh on impossible.
The one thing he has in his favour is that floyd is not really a knockout merchant, so he may make it to the final bell. Had he been in there with a de la hoya/hatton era Pacquiao, he'd be lucky to make it to the section round.
I'm expecting some type of result that will necessitate a rematch.
I did wonder if he would knock him down at some point to make it look like he could have a chance with his "boxers chance" in the rematch. Whatever scheme they plot Mayweather is not giving up his "0"
No one who knows anything about boxing would give him a chance against a seasoned pro - or amateur - never mind Mayweather
Do you think Mayweather will do a proper camp?
I am thinking Lewis against Rahman?
[quote=Pigface ]Do you think Mayweather will do a proper camp?
I am thinking Lewis against Rahman?
He's never not training. Even when he was retired before he was training every day. He lives in the gym.
loddrik - MemberThere seems to be quite a few mma fans who think that McGregor somehow may have a chance. They probably just don't realise just how good floyd is. McGregor will not land a single decent punch on floyd. McGregor wouldn't stand a chance with a decent pro boxer, trying to connect let alone knock out, which is undoubtedly what he will try to do, with quite possibly the best boxer there has ever been, will be nigh on impossible.
I really don't have a dog in this fight, I haven't seen a boxing match in year and never seen an MMA fight but the spectacle has drawn me in.
Some of the pundits are a bit cagey about it, just because it’s so unusual – but, as I understand it if you take emotional attachment out of it, it’s a bit like this?
The Miami Dolphins have been trying to start a ‘beef’ with Toulouse Rugby Club for years, “we’re the best players with an oval ball ever.” They say, for 2 years Toulouse ignore them. Finally having enough they say, okay then – we’ll put on a match – but you have to come to France and you have to play rugby, it’s a very different game to American Football so you can’t use have the skills you’ve learned in your career.
All the time the Dolphins are gobbing off about their chances the tickets are sold out and it’s making millions on TV.
The actual experts are saying:
The NFL team is actually known for being fairly poor, even by the standards of other NFL teams of running with the ball, only passing backwards and generally the business of you-known, playing rugby, where are Toulouse are some of the best to ever play the game – the diehard Dolphins fans just shout yee haw and say they’re going to win.
The NFL team is used to short periods of explosive action, punctuated by hours of beer adverts and girls dancing with pom-poms, in contrast the game of Rugby has much longer periods of action and is actually in play for a lot longer, again the Dolphins fans cheers their team is going to win.
The NFL team has a lower average age, as most of their players are straight out of collage – the Dolphins fans say “see, we told you they’d win”.
So yeah, they’ve got a chance, they’re very good at games involving running about with and kicking a oval ball, so to the diehard fans they’re as good at Rugby, experts say that if the Dolphins had convinced Toulouse to play American Football, they’d win easily, but they didn’t.
i realise die hard fans will think anything but imagine an amateur [ for he is an amateur boxer at best] American football team taking on the best rugby team and then expecting them to win
It could happen but its so remote as to not be worth considering even if you are a fan of your team/person.
I dont have strong opinions on connor either but he is no boxer and this is about fame and money not sport
WWE might as well show it as it would be more entertaining and the result probably less certain
No its like an amateur boxer taking on Mayweather.
Very, very little chance.
Saying he has no chance is against logic.
I'm actually not that interested! DC vs JJ yes please. And boxing wise Ward vs Kovalev 3... FFS
i have never boxed so its technically incorrect to say I have no chance against himSaying he has no chance is against logic
That said the odds are so long it is what would be termed no chance by anyone.
His only hope is a lucky punch against the best defensive boxer of this era and possibly ever.
That is technically a chance , if one wishes to be pedantic, but realistically its not a chance.
i have never boxed so its technically incorrect to say I have no chance against him
some of the hardest people to box against are people who can't box...
Draaaaaaaaging this back to MMA, nice to have Holly Holm get a win!
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NO they are the easiest as they do not know what they are doing, expose themself, over reach, have limited movement, poor defence and no plansome of the hardest people to box against are people who can't box...
Yes they may attack from an "unusual angle" but that does not make it harder to beat them or avoid their flailing blows.
FWIW as a martial artist I have fought a boxer and could not lay a glove on him in any meaningful way. Connor is about to experience this as well.
The other thing was i also had to keep going to myself dont kick no grabbing etc and curtail my instincts so this also put me at a disadvantage as i was a bit slower than normal to remain "controlled".
Beyond extreme luck he does not have a hope
BillOddie - MemberDraaaaaaaaging this back to MMA, nice to have Holly Holm get a win!
Yep. Hollie is a bad ************. The fact that De Randamie is vacating the title just highlights how she didn't deserve the belt. It's fair to say Bethe was not on her level but she deserves a slightly easier fight to get back in the win column.
JunkyardThat is technically a chance , if one wishes to be pedantic, but realistically its not a chance.
Beyond extreme luck he does not have a hope
So guess anyone wanting some free money should bet the house on Floyd? A £10,000 stake will earn you £1142.
jimjam...hit the nail on the head all these commentators saying he has no chance would not put big money on it the question is why not?
I can't see how Connor would win but I'm not ruling him out.
He's been doubted at every stage of his career and always come through!
... Well, apart from the three fights he lost, of course.
Since competing the UFC just the one which he avenged against a larger stronger man!
'He won't be able to do that at UFC level' - he did
'He won't be able to do that to a top five contender' - he did
'He won't be able to do that to a high level wrestler' - he did
'He won't be able to do that to Aldo' - he did
'He won't be able to do that at light weight' - guess what??
'He won't be able to touch Maywether' - What happens next...who knows but as said before I don't know how, but I wouldn't bet my house on a Maywether win...would you?
Yes.
Not at those odds its not worth it.
I see Mcgregor doing OK in first half of this fight but getting properly knackered half way through and either being stopped or massively outpointed in second half of fight.
Mcgregor has power/accuracy of a pro boxer imo, but Mayweather hardly ever gets hit and can also take a punch if he does.
Pondo...great post a photo of your slip when you have...thought not, all talk!
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Draaaaaaaaging this back to MMA, nice to have Holly Holm get a win!Yep. Hollie is a bad ************. The fact that De Randamie is vacating the title just highlights how she didn't deserve the belt. It's fair to say Bethe was not on her level but she deserves a slightly easier fight to get back in the win column.
Holly Holm has always been immensely likeable - always had a great attitude.
It's unfortunate then that she's basically a point fighter. Unless she's being chased she's boring to watch sadly. Headkick KOs aren't boring of course but up until then it was a snoozefest.
Not sure what the UFC do with her at this point, although if she wins the belt again I could easily see her retiring.
Noticed people are calling it an event not a fight,everyone has just accepted its basically wrestlemania for boxing:)
Nwill1 go on then put your house on McGregor if you are that confident.
I've put a tenner on McG.
Cuz I'm an idiot.
Ok...I only put a fiver on, I'm not that much of an idiot.
I've put a tenner on McG.Cuz I'm an idiot.
Ok...I only put a fiver on, I'm not that much of an idiot.
In the first round? 😉
I'm with junky on this one! The hardest people to box are not folks who don't box..!! They may be unconventional but they also don't have a clue..
I've sparred a few times against rank amateurs at a club. Strangely they weren't bamboozled by my awful technique!
Not saying I'm as good a boxer as mcgregor, clearly he'd destroy me within seconds. But the gulf in class would be similar I expect
FYI I don't think I landed one clean punch and pretty sure I broke my nose!
Jamie - MemberI've put a tenner on McG.
Cuz I'm an idiot.
Ok...I only put a fiver on, I'm not that much of an idiot.
I'm definitely going to put a few quid on McGregor, probably for a second or 3rd round ko. More than anything so that if I do stay up for the fight I'll have some kind of involvement instead of just being detached, which may well be the case considering the totally pointless spectacle of it all.
Pig Face ... No where for one second have I said he will win...by all rights he most certainly shouldn't.
However I just don't think you can say there is no chance Connor could win...he could.
ATM I can't see how, just never say never that's all.
I wouldn't put much on Conor let alone my house but there are a lot of folk saying that it is a certainty nothing is certain in the fight game...he may not be a boxer but he's a fighter and can most certainly handle the pressure not to mention that left hand!!
ok what odds?I just don't think you can say there is no chance Connor could win...he could
IMHO connor would need to fight him a thousand times to beat him once[ with his lucky punch].
Pondo...great post a photo of your slip when you have...thought not, all talk!
The question was would I, not have I. 🙂 It's been suggested that Conor's only hope is to be unusual and whilst I agree with that (49 boxers from usual to very special have lost so far), I don't think there's anything THAT unusual he can do against arguably the greatest exponent of defensive boxing there's ever been. Against an aggressive, come-forward fighter, Conor has the fabled puncher's chance. Against Floyd? If it happens, it's a fix.
I do wonder if Floyd's mobility would be good enough to win (or at least not get taken down or kicked unconcious) in the octagon...? 🙂
pondoI do wonder if Floyd's mobility would be good enough to win (or at least not get taken down or kicked unconcious) in the octagon...?
Unlikely.
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he has even less chance in MMA than connor has in boxing
Do wonder if there's a rematch clause - how well can he run? Dude's prett agile, I bet Conor can't kick as fast as he punches, and Floyd doesn't get hit too often.... 🙂
(This isn't particularly a serious train of thought, BTW)
pondo - MemberDude's prett agile, I bet Conor can't kick as fast as he punches, and Floyd doesn't get hit too often...
Doesn't matter. When you're inside kicking range you're still outside punching range, and a traditional boxing stance leaves you vulnerable to legs kicks, liver kicks and takedowns. James Toney demonstrated exactly what happens when a boxer gets ideas above his station.
I imagine Conor will get good promotional mileage out of the fact that he is stepping down to Floyd's level, competitively speaking. Along with the fact Floyd Mayweather beats up women.
Lots mentioned about the 'left hand' but how many times other than the aldo knock out has mcgregor sparked someone with one punch. Remember he can't jump on them afterwards, so if he does land he realistically needs Floyd to not be able to get up. I genuinely don't know as I do watch much mma , but I did see the Diaz fights, and despite landing numerous times with small gloves he didn't put him down
