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Time for some more weight classes? Early weigh-ins seem to be backfiring somewhat.


 
Posted : 03/03/2017 9:04 pm
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Going to be recording, rather than staying up now.

Solid card with Vanata and T-Wood and Wonderboy, but lost some of its gloss.


 
Posted : 03/03/2017 9:15 pm
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FFS. As far as I'm concerned that should count as a loss for Khabib and a win for Tony. (I was hoping Khabib would win BTW) & Tony should get paid.


 
Posted : 03/03/2017 9:58 pm
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Still a good card but Tony v Khabib was something special.

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Time for some more weight classes? Early weigh-ins seem to be backfiring somewhat.

I think that's two separate issues. More weight classes would be good, and might help the situation but nothing to say you wouldn't get say...Tyron Woodley cutting even further to compete at 165 or even 160.

The early weigh ins are good but apparently fighters are having issues with the time of day. What they really need to do is adopt One FC's weight protocals with regular weigh ins through the year and hydration tests come fight weigh in.


 
Posted : 03/03/2017 10:09 pm
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Hunt vs Overeem worth watching. Walk away K.O and two fingers to the UFC from Hunt would be good!


 
Posted : 03/03/2017 10:22 pm
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they have to change the system.

agree a level of hydration with the authorities that is deemed safe. and weigh at that hydration level. thats what you fight at.

Khabib should be a 170 fighter, he probably walks around at 185. to cut 30 lbs or so is insane.

look at Woodley last night, he is huge. he must walk round at 200lb or so.

I'm 5'11 and my race weight is bang on 70kg, and I am stick thin when I am down there, yet its what Conor thought at against Alvarez, and he was big. he's walking round at 175ish, so why fight at 155, or even 145?

somethings got to change, or the next time we'l be talking about a death.


 
Posted : 04/03/2017 12:27 pm
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I'm 5'11 and my race weight is bang on 70kg, and I am stick thin when I am down there, yet its what Conor thought at against Alvarez, and he was big. he's walking round at 175ish, so why fight at 155, or even 145?

Because in grappling weight makes a huge difference. If I'm sparring with someone at BJJ who is my weight it's easy (for want of a better word). With a 5kg weight advantage I can beat someone who has 3-4 years more training than I have. 10kg advantage and it feels like fighting a child.

Khabib should be a 170 fighter, he probably walks around at 185. to cut 30 lbs or so is insane.

He's not that big, Tony Ferguson walks around at 170/175 and lots of people have commented at how he's relatively small. But I agree with all of your comments re weight cutting - hydration tests should be the norm.


 
Posted : 04/03/2017 7:26 pm
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All good points JimJam.

Thinking of giving BJJ a go. As a 42 year old with no grappling or martial arts experience I imagine I'll spend a couple of years being manipulated like a child.


 
Posted : 04/03/2017 7:52 pm
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Thinking of giving BJJ a go.

Do it. It's one of the most difficult but rewarding things you'll ever do. Who knows where you'll be, or what you'll be doing in ten years....but you might as well be a black belt while you're doing it 🙂

There are a lot of pitfalls that beginners can fall into and they are relatively fresh in my mind so I'll be happy to point them out to you.

As a 42 year old with no grappling or martial arts experience I imagine I'll spend a couple of years being manipulated like a child.

For your first few classes yes, but it's amazing and humbling to be utterly helpless against another person. After about 6 weeks you'll be able to handle new comers your own size or slightly bigger. After 6 months you'll be able to catch higher belts your own size or slightly smaller whilst utterly destroying untrained people regardless of size - but at the same time, you'll still be a grappling dummy for people a few grades higher, which keeps it compelling.


 
Posted : 04/03/2017 8:07 pm
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Well that was a fun card. (Hunt/Reem-Vanata/Teymur-Elkins comeback etc)

Not the main event of course. That was tepid.

*hops off Bearjew hype train*


 
Posted : 05/03/2017 9:23 am
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Hunt and the reem are two of my favourite fighters and that finish made me feel from down, was not happy to see Alastair do that.walk off ko for hunt would of been magical.


 
Posted : 05/03/2017 10:06 pm
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Wow.

A tonne of amazing fights announced in the last few days.
Personal highlights will be:

Edgar vs. Rodriguez – Big test for Rodriguez. On paper, Edgar’s got everything you’d need to nullify his flamboyance – crisp footwork, strong wrestling, endurance and a good chin.

Maia vs. Masvidal – Attractive if slightly baffling. Masvidal seems to have really capitalised on the win over Cerrone to jump this far up the rankings. Maia not getting a title shot makes me wonder if Woodley’s finally getting his money fight?

Holloway vs. Aldo – Can’t wait for this one. With all the recent chicanery, it’s going to be so refreshing to see the right fight happen, i.e. a worthy champion defending the belt against the top contender.

Honourable mention for Silva vs. Gastelum. Very savvy move from Gastelum to call him out, securing a lucrative and very winnable fight with a guy who still attracts a lot of attention. I can’t see him giving Silva the kind of respect he seemed to generate in Brunson.


 
Posted : 17/03/2017 11:32 am
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UFC London pre-lims are on live right now till 9;30 on Fightpass. Free previews...use your wife's email acc if you've already registered and don't want to pay 😉

Some decent fights on it. No big names as such but a few upandcomers. You can watch them later if you're kids are about etc. Gonna get the beers in and cheer on Joe Duffy.


 
Posted : 18/03/2017 7:13 pm
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re. the weight cut thing, anybody see the bit on BBC iplayer, forget what its called now but was on the first page yesterday, I never realized the extents they go to to get down to the category weight. Its pretty messed up!


 
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thats the one


 
Posted : 18/03/2017 8:28 pm
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Better late than never.

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Posted : 18/03/2017 9:35 pm
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Diakiese vs Groovy Lando, pls.

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Posted : 19/03/2017 9:33 am
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Diakiese vs Groovy Lando, pls.

Not a bad shout. Lando's last fight with Teymur was a war, great fighter to watch. He might be a bit small for lightweight though.


 
Posted : 19/03/2017 10:00 am
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Cormier vs Rumble this eve. Reckon DC will do it again, but wouldn't bet my pension on it.


 
Posted : 08/04/2017 8:02 pm
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What about DC's weigh in? Hands resting on the towel!


 
Posted : 08/04/2017 9:15 pm
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At least his tits are real.


 
Posted : 08/04/2017 9:55 pm
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Reckon DC will do it again, but wouldn't bet my pension on i

DC looked like an AIDS ravaged crack addict at the weigh in/ towelgate


 
Posted : 08/04/2017 10:26 pm
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DC looked, rough shuffling towards the scale.


 
Posted : 08/04/2017 10:26 pm
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Bellator 179 on Channel 5 tonight. Prelims on Spike apparently.


 
Posted : 19/05/2017 7:34 pm
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It's on. August 26th. Las Vegas.

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Mr McGregor is about to become a veeeeeery rich man.


 
Posted : 14/06/2017 10:45 pm
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McGregor 7/1.


 
Posted : 14/06/2017 10:48 pm
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McGregor 7/1.

Hmm. Worth a punt.


 
Posted : 14/06/2017 11:10 pm
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Connor has nothing to lose and everything to gain...if he gets humiliated he'll walk away laughing with $millions in the bank!!

If he wins...wow.

I'm not writing him off he is a special athlete and 'Money' is not in his prime...Connor is!


 
Posted : 14/06/2017 11:16 pm
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2 horse race. I'd have a punt at 7/1.

Thank god they've finally set a date!

Difficult to see Mcgregor going back to UFC for such comparatively small money.


 
Posted : 14/06/2017 11:21 pm
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In terms of the fight, meh. Fair play to him for landing the payday. I'd rather see him in almost any MMA fight, but why should he take bigger risks for, relatively speaking, peanuts?

Did we all catch Aldo vs. Holloway? Beautiful and tragic. Wonder if Aldo will go up to lightweight. Would love to see him fight Nurmagomedov: Khabib's wrestling vs Aldo's takedown defence.


 
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Worth a punt.

he has no chance they are surprisingly short given how little chance he has

He would not have much chance against any boxer never mind the best.he is going to get schooled


 
Posted : 14/06/2017 11:26 pm
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He has a puncher's chance.

Personally I think it'll be a dog of a contest, but still going to chuck a tenner on Conor. At least to make me watch it 😀


 
Posted : 14/06/2017 11:29 pm
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I predict McGregor will NOT LAND ONE SINGLE CLEAN SHOT the whole fight. Mayweather is going to make him look totally ridiculous.

This 'fight' is so stupid. Canelo couldn't even land cleanly on Floyd, what hope does a non boxer have.

Anyone who gives McGregor even the remotest minutest of chances is completely deluded.


 
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Just been over on Twitter. Some people actually seriously think McGregor can win....

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Posted : 15/06/2017 12:26 am
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Posted : 15/06/2017 6:30 am
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He has a puncher's chance.
if he can get anywhere near Mayweather

On paper a total mismatch, McGregor is a terrible boxer

Prepare for the hype and shenanigans to be massive.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 6:49 am
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He's got no hope, surely?


 
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He has a puncher's chance.

Erm, no he doesn't. Whatsoever.

If pacquiao, marquez, cotto, canelo et al were all made to look average. All excellent champions in their own right. Plus floyd has a good chin, although people don't realise as he never gets hit.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 7:55 am
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But people will pay to see it, unfortunately. I most definitely won't be watching.

I'd rather see a proper boxing match. Like Ward vs Kovalev this weekend.


 
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He's got no hope, surely?

loddrik

He has a puncher's chance.

Erm, no he doesn't. Whatsoever.

I'd put more stock in someone like Mark Henry saying McGregor has a chance than all the internet pundits put together.

He's a bigger, stronger, younger and quite possibly faster man who knocks people out for a living. Of course he has a punchers chance. If Conor goes in there and starches Floyd, in hindsight it will have seemed so obvious that it was possible for him to do that. But a more likely reality is 12 rounds of exciting clinching.

It's [i]almost[/i] certain that Floyd will win, but no one knows for certain. That's why they'll fight.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 8:18 am
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Sigh......

No point me adding anything else really. Next time I'll contribute to this thread will be after the fight and floyd has not been hit all fight and made McGregor look completely totally ridiculous.


 
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Sigh......

Indeed. It's a sad indictment of the general public's lack of knowledge when it comes to MMA that this side show is even happening. If McGregor has even a 1% chance against Mayweather in a boxing match it's still 100 times more chance than Floyd would have in an MMA match.

If the UFC wasn't in a down year financially I doubt it would even be happening.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 8:44 am
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Ah, well I might watch my first McGregor fight ever for the spectacle alone. As long as they don't take the piss too much with the PPV price.


 
Posted : 15/06/2017 9:00 am
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Punchers chance, but Floyd is the best ever at reducing punchers chances.

Win/win for me, would love to see Mcg get schooled & would love to see Floyd K.Oed.


 
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