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Yeti- well, he wasn't allowed into the UK either.

She did once own a dog, but it's dead and I'm sure Big Society Dave doesn't know about it.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 1:41 am
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Ernie- it'd not be a sham

Oh alright...........glad to hear it 8)

And don't worry - I wasn't going to phone the hotline 'til tomorrow anyway.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 1:42 am
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Ernie_lynch shut down in 2 posts?

That has cheered me up...

😉


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 1:45 am
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Oh, someone mentioned the 'sham marriage' thing earlier. Immigration bods could come round to check up on you; check how many toothbrushes are in the bathroom, what clothes are in cupboards etc. Apparently they can be very intrusive and rude. I know folk who've been 'investigated', and they say it's a horrible and humiliating experience. Asking stuff like what contraception is used, all sorts. Fair enough they have their job to do, but some can take it a bit far, you know.


 
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he wasn't allowed into the UK either.

Christ, I'm far too on topic tonight.

Good luck to you mate, the course of true love never runs smooth and all that. Get married in Vegas though, it'd make one hell of a story...


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 1:46 am
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Gretna Green?


 
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Immigration bods could come round to check up on you; check how many toothbrushes are in the bathroom, what clothes are in cupboards etc. Apparently they can be very intrusive and rude. I know folk who've been 'investigated', and they say it's a horrible and humiliating experience. Asking stuff like what contraception is used, all sorts.

Ah, that old scam.

You've got some friends that have fallen for that classic pervert's scam have you ?


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 1:50 am
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LOL @ "doggy" agents. Yes, doggy dog ... should be dodgy agents.

If she comes from Zim but her ancestors or grandparents might be from UK then she has a chance otherwise keep applying using good lawyer or if her ancestors come from one of the EU nation that allows ancestors route then she can apply for there to become an EU citizen ...


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 1:58 am
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😳

Happened to one couple I know. The bloke ended up getting really angry and throwing them out. Made a complaint, got an apology. Din't get harassed again, but the point is, that because there have been so many marriages of convenience, Immigration officials have had to get a bit sneaky.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 2:08 am
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Din't get harassed again, but the point is, that because there have been so many marriages of convenience, Immigration officials have had to get a bit sneaky.

I think the point is that it's precisely the kind of information that inquiring about would cause offence, that the officers need to ask about in order to really corroborate the claim that marriage is genuine.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 9:49 am
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OP how many people come here on student visas who then decide they want to stay?

What if I went to America on a Student visa and decided I wanted to stay there? Would I find it difficult? Yes I would. Is it the US government's fault? Are they evil?

Why are you blaming 'the Tories'?

Its not the governments fault.

Go and see an immigration solicitor and stop moaning. My Brother in law has spent the last two years doing this.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 9:54 am
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I had exactly this problem 10 years ago so its not new. The only option we had back then when my American girlfriends stundent visa ran out was for her to go home and come back 3 month later on a temp visa and get married with in 6 months.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 9:54 am
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Gretna Green

Racist! 😀


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 9:57 am
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How much does it cost to get married or form a civil partnership?
What you need to do Cost
Give notice before registering a marriage or civil partnership £33.50
Register a marriage or civil partnership at a register office £40.00
Register a marriage or civil partnership on approved premises The cost for attendance by the superintendent registrar and registrar is set by the local authority.

A further charge is likely to be made by the owners of the building for the use of the premises.
Cost of religious ceremony in the Church of England or Church in Wales Please check fees with the vicar of the church in which you are planning to marry.
Cost of religious ceremony at a building other than Church of England or Church in Wales Unless the building has an Authorised Person, there will be an £80 fee for the registrar. There may be further fees charged by the trustees of the building and the person who performs the ceremony.
Cost of marriage or civil partnership certificate on the day £3.50

Do we need to have a whip around??


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:03 am
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The finiacces visa is not cheep however, think it was over $500 10 years ago


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:11 am
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I am not TJ.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:28 am
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The wedding thing's not new, when I was renewing my passport a couple of years back one of the notes on the form was about spouses, anything less than two years marriage was "doggy" in their eyes.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:30 am
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My wife had a harder time getting an NI number than the permanent residency


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:33 am
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I can't be bothered to read all the responses so sorry if this has already been said, but if you hate this country so much, why don't you both just naff off somewhere else together? 🙄


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:35 am
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A pretty tactless post by the OP, imo.

Unemployment in this country currently stands at ?

Go figure.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:37 am
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Just checked the visa is now $750


 
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You've done it now.

Somewhere in a poxy East London bedsit, Elfin's bat phone is going off, he'll be along shortly to accuse you of wanting to send 'them' back to where they came from.

In this case America, but y'know...tomorrow you might be referring to a Bangladeshi or something.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:39 am
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worst case, you're forced marrying your girlfriend on a budget.

use your imagination to make it special, not buckets of cash.

and then use your savings to pay off your mortgage early.

retire early.

then bugger off round Britain/the med/the world on a really nice yacht.

this immigration cap nonsense will be the best thing that ever happened to you.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:39 am
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I'm not TJ either!


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:40 am
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I am TJ. Come on, argue with me and I shall destroy you.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:41 am
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bravohotel9er 😆

Although I'm not trying to send anyone back to where they came from, but instead suggest that SpokesCycles looks at somewhere new that he and his GF can be together (hopefully somewhere he doesn't 'hate')!


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:42 am
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I'm rapidly starting to hate the whole country for suddenly becoming so unpleasant a place to live in the last 6 months.
They will ruin everything. The NHS, the Forests, the Industry, the Railways, the country's safety (anyone notice the cuts to flood defences today) and destroy the poor whilst allowing the rich to carry on as normal.

Don't get married for her to be able to stay when you don't want to be here


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:50 am
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Why are you blaming 'the Tories'?

Its not the governments fault


Sorry who do we blame for the legislation the government introduces then?
can't be bothered to read all the responses so sorry if this has already been said, but if you hate this country so much, why don't you both just naff off somewhere else together?

Nor even the opening post but dont let your ignorance prevent you from experessing an opinion

She's fallen in love with the country, doesn't enjoy living in the States and the UK is now where she calls home, and has previously welcomed her with open arms.

Now they've dredged up this "they'll take our jobs" nonsense that will be the scurge of our country. The UK is what it is because of its multi cultural society with people from all over the world being allowed to pass in relatively easily. They do jobs we can't, but some of them just want to call it home

they love it here I dont even need to have a pop at your repatriation view to make you look foolish. Wonders if you will keep digging
bravohotel9er 🙄


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:52 am
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I would be TJ but for some reason Wikipeadia is blocked on this box
Taking that off TJ is akin to tying a boxers arms behind his back 🙂


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:53 am
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Junkyard, WTF?

If delicate little flowers like you want to take offence at everything, all of the time, that's just fine with me.

Everyone needs a hobby.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:55 am
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1 Get married
2 Move to the States - and then you'll have the problem, see 1.
3 Both move somewhere else - hmm, see 1.
4 Get her to apply for UK citizenship, thats what one of the Yanks that use to work for me did - not sure of rules etc


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 10:56 am
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Please refrain from using terms like 'Yanks' please, Junkyard is already on the verge of tears.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:00 am
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you would be more upset if you did not annoy a guardian reading tree hugging tofu muncher with your hilarious posts and goading wouldn't you 😉


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:00 am
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I'd consider it a day wasted.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:01 am
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You can apply for a visa for being in a relationship akin to marriage rather than actually having to be married. A friend of mine came over on a temp/working visa for 2 years, then moved to a 2 year relationship visa from there. They were not married but lived together etc and that was enough.

Sounds to me like you need to get some proper advice, there is a centre you can go to (near london i think) to get advice direct.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:03 am
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Junkyard, she may love this country, but he makes it quite clear that he doesn't so why not find somewhere that they can both be happy?!


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:05 am
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Suck it up cupcake - this is nothing new at all. Americans are high on the 'least-wanted immigrant' list and have been for a long time - mostly because we have to accept EU migration. I had to do this all legally so my now wife could come over here and we could get married. I lived immigration regulations. There are long-standing rules and regulations that have to be followed. I'm not saying I agree with them at all, but having a hissy fit, blaming the current government (and ignoring the hospital pass they were presented with by the last government) and shouting 'IhateyouIhateyouIhateyou' doesn't change the price of fish. Go ride your bike, then MTFU and do something about it rather than wailing and grinding your teeth.
Just you try moving to the USA - just as bad.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:28 am
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Go and see an immigration solicitor and stop moaning.

Yeah, I agree. Start seeing someone else

she may love this country, but he makes it quite clear that he doesn't so why not find somewhere that they can both be happy?!

Srsly? Love it or leave it???

Maybe he wants to stay and change it through democratic means?


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:39 am
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Teh other thing to realise is that this is a marginal change - I saw number that last year it was 21 000 skilled non EU immigrants, this year its 16 000. Hardly a huge change.


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:42 am
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Maybe he wants to stay and change it through democratic means?

By whining on the STW forum?!


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:45 am
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Teh other thing to realise is that this is a marginal change - I saw number that last year it was 21 000 skilled non EU immigrants, this year its 16 000. Hardly a huge change.

Really? if it went from 21,000 to 28,000 would you also maintain that this was not a 'Huge change'?


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 11:46 am
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OP how many people come here on student visas who then decide they want to stay?

What if I went to America on a Student visa and decided I wanted to stay there? Would I find it difficult? Yes I would. Is it the US government's fault? Are they evil?

Why are you blaming 'the Tories'?

Its not the governments fault.

Go and see an immigration solicitor and stop moaning. My Brother in law has spent the last two years doing this.

And this:

Suck it up cupcake - this is nothing new at all. Americans are high on the 'least-wanted immigrant' list and have been for a long time - mostly because we have to accept EU migration. I had to do this all legally so my now wife could come over here and we could get married. I lived immigration regulations. There are long-standing rules and regulations that have to be followed. I'm not saying I agree with them at all, but having a hissy fit, blaming the current government (and ignoring the hospital pass they were presented with by the last government) and shouting 'IhateyouIhateyouIhateyou' doesn't change the price of fish. Go ride your bike, then MTFU and do something about it rather than wailing and grinding your teeth.
Just you try moving to the USA - just as bad.

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For my 2c, sorry mate but thats life & sometimes life pisses on your chips. Sh1t or get off the pot - do you love the woman? Then marry her. If not, stop wasting her's (& yours) time.

I have a degree of sympathy for you having been in a similar situation when I was going West & its a frigging nightmare. Best of luck & all that jazz but mate, fate really is in your own hands on this one..


 
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fate really is in your own hands on this one

Might not just be fate in his hands if things don't look up


 
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I am not TJ.

No, you're a very naught boy!


 
Posted : 24/11/2010 12:02 pm
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Grump over. It'll work out, it always does. We've had visa concerns before (I think 2 years ago they were looking at not renewing her visa under anti terror laws...) and it ended up fine.


 
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