[Closed] The thing about men who become women...

And big ol' feet too 😯

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Hmm.. the one on the right maybe, but the rest look like fairly normal size hands.

But don't mention it they are armed:
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And unlike other women, they can probably shoot straight 😀

Until chromosone replacement takes place, this is thread should be entitled "The thing about men who[i] want to[/i] become women"

Ch!cks with d**ks. 😯

And you try really hard not to stare, so much so that it looks like you are really trying hard not to stare and you actually don't look at the person at all, even though usually you would probably nod and smile (I do anyway, and I speak to people in the queue at the supermarket)

Yes, some trans-women have big hands. Some don't. Some have big feet. Some don't. Plus, women generally are getting bigger feet; mine are size 9 and it's a bit of a pain but not as bad as it used to be.

Not quite sure where I sit on the whole shooting thing. I can use a shotgun - does that count?

Oh, and the whole chromosome thing is a bit of a misnomer; there are a lot of so-called genetic girls that simply aren't but have no idea.

Rachel.

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Yeah, but it's like most STW men; no matter how much biking they do....

...they still have f-ing massive [b][i]bellies[/i][/b]!!!!

😉

Sorry but big hands and feet on a woman are a no no!

easily sorted Loddrik

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vinnyeh,

FFS! This thread is about ladyb0y or chick with d1ck not deformity ... 😡

It's footbinding- old Chinese solution to women with large feet.

yep if your not sure...just look for the huge feet !!!!

..... you can borrow their undies?

Guys,

Life can be challenging enough as a transsexual person, without reading STW and seeing comments like some here.

If the Internet existed 30 years ago, would you be making similar comments about black people, gay people?

Rachel.

Rachel; as long as they have someone else to poke fun and laugh at, they'll feel better about themselves, so I wouldn't let it worry you what they think.

Ah - it doesn't bother me that much; just interesting how certain populations are objectified, depending on how well they are understood.

You're right about the bellies, though - believe me! 😆

Rachel

Rachel people still do make fun of black gay people, either as a sign of derision, or just for fun, when it turns into aggression or violence that is the problem.

Anyone having transgender realignment surgery is either very brave or a bit mixed up, usually very brave, to fullfill their wishes to live as a lady.

when it turns into aggression or violence that is the problem.

It is often a problem for people long before it even gets to aggression or violence. Someone might just not realise that their words are hurting someone, until it's too late, and then by that time the damage is done.

Yes, I think you do need a thick skin to brave an internet forum, but quite often I read stuff, and think 'can someone really be that much of an arse?' Poking fun, bullying, ganging up on people, taking the piss- it's just a sign of weakness, and is cowardly. Takes a bit more thought to rise beyond childish puerile shite.

Personally, I think it's great that Rachel feels confident enough to be open and honest on here. I sometimes shudder to think what some folk who might be from groups which are regularly on the receiving end of 'jokes' must think. I don't want to be lumped in with the hard of thinking. Some of it's just embarrassing.

Geuss what folks? People might be different to you. Crazy, eh? 🙄

loddrik - Member

Sorry but big hands and feet on a woman are a no no!

So your only problem with "[i]men who become women[/i]" is that they have big hands and feet - apart from that you could fancy them ?

Good for you mate - I wish I could say I was that liberal. Unfortunately just the fact that she was once a geezer, would be a [i]"no no"[/i] for me.....I just wouldn't be able to get it out of my head - I don't fancy geezers.

So apart from the [i]big hands,[/i] what was the tranny in the queue at tescos like loddrik ........ a bit tasty ?

loddrik - Member

Sorry but big hands and feet on a woman are a no no!

Is that because it makes it look even smaller?

vinnyeh - Member

It's footbinding- old Chinese solution to women with large feet.

That's very painful. Feel sorry for the women in those days.

As for the ladyb0ys they can be whatever they want. 🙂

but it's like most STW men; no matter how much biking they do....

...they still have f-ing massive boobies!!!!

Unfortunately just the fact that she was once a geezer, would be a "no no" for me.....I just wouldn't be able to get it out of my head - I don't fancy geezers.

Yeah but that's the thing- she's a woman [i]now[/i]. What if you were never told? Could you not love the person themselves, for who they are, without some prejudice/fear coming up in your head?

I remember studying Gender at Uni; 'gender' being something that can be viewed as distinct and separate from sex; IE your 'sex' is what defines you as physically male or female, yet your 'gender' is what defines you as masculine or feminine. No-one is completely one or the other; most of us fall more on one side or the other, but there are people for whom the gender boundaries are less distinct, or who themselves have had the wrong gender forced upon them. Our society is very polarised in this sense, and there are very distinctly and clearly defined 'rules'. But if people were left to grow up according to what was best for them as an individual, I think we'd see a lot more blurring of the social boundaries; dress, behaviour, personality etc. I think a lot of people are ****ed up because they're prevented from being who they really are by a society that makes little or no provision for those who don't 'fit the pattern'.

It's all very complicated. Freud and others have plenty to say on the matter, I'm sure.

Could you not love the person themselves, for who they are, without some prejudice/fear coming up in your head?

😕 Eh ? prejudice/fear ? .......it's got nothing to do with "prejudice" or "fear" ....... I don't fancy geezers - that's all.

And I couldn't just simply "forget" that she was once a geezer. I hope that's OK with you.

But I'm impressed with loddrik though......apart from the "big hands" issue, he seems cool with it.

Just out of interest; how many men on here looked at those pics of the Oriental ladies above and thought 'hmmm...'? I know I did. Why? Because their gender is clearly feminine, something I'm attracted to . The fact that they may in fact be male in terms of their sex is irrelevant here. It's their femininity that's the most obvious thing. They could quite easily be women. And then finding them attractive wouldn't be a problem, would it?

A mate of mine went to Thailand on holiday , and said he found some of the ladyboys more attractive than most 'real' women he'd seen. We are so conditioned by the media and society that we expect men and women to look a particular way, and get confused and even fearful if presented with something that differs from that norm.

Heh! I bet some of you are getting really uncomfortable now you've thought about it, aren't you?

Go with the flow! 😀

i hope he got a reach around 😉 bulb end

I thought it was funny, simple as that. In the same way that when I worked for Parcelforce years ago and the door was answered by the most butch looking chap you had ever seen, only he had full on womens clothes with 6 inch heels and full makeup. I thought it was hilarious and every man I mentioned it to did as well. Surprise surpise every woman who heard the story felt guilty laughing or felt sympathy. And I don't feel guilty finding it funny as it cheered up my day and still brings a smile to my face thinking about it. I didn't turn around and bounce on his head for being different so it makes no difference.

Rachel fair play to you. I hope I haven't caused offence.
If your user name is a reference not only to your biking ability then it has to be one of the wittiest on this forum!

Now my problem is I have a slightly dark sense of humour... can we have an amnesty on intelligent transexual person jokes please? I'm biting my lip so hard it's almost bleeding?

[edit] they're not even intelligent, just STW staples that go on almost every thread [edit]

Elfinsafety - Member

They could quite easily be women. And then finding them attractive wouldn't be a problem, would it?

So you're saying that if they looked like [i]men,[/i] you'd have a problem with it ...... how narrow minded of you 😐

I was at a conference recently on the subject and the latest prevalence figures were discussed.

There are about 10000 people actively being treated for gender dysphoria and a rather amazing 1% of the adult population thought to at least have issues with their gender.

The largest Gender Identity Clinic in the UK, Charing Cross, also showed how the growth of new clients was increasing - it was rather dramatic...

It's the 21st century, you know. I mean, even my parents can cope with it!! 😆

Rachel

and I couldn't just simply "forget" that she was once a geezer.

But what if you never knew?

Have a Google image search for 'Caroline Cossey'. I won't post pics on here because I'll just get banned (again), but essentially, Caroline was a Bond Girl who was born male. T'was a proper fuss, because she's very beautiful. I bet a good few men had sleepless nights about that one....

.....1% of the adult population thought to at least have issues with their gender.

Well judging by the amount of tranny porn that's available, I reckon a lot more than 1% of the adult population are into trannies.......which is good news for trannies 8)

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_Something_About_Miriam ]There's something about Miriam[/url]

It may have been a little crass in places.... but boy did this show do something to show how 'confused' some red blooded males could be!

Just out of interest; how many men on here looked at those pics of the Oriental ladies above and thought 'hmmm...'?

Guilty especially the blonde in the middle... I think I probably would, how much are flights to Thailand?

This thread reminds me of this.. [url=

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On a side note the wife used to work with a transexual in Sainsbury's and I felt really sorry for the her given the amount of abuse she regularly got off customers and some members of staff. She left in the end because of it.

So you're saying that if they looked like men, you'd have a problem with it

No you silly arse. What I'm saying is, if it looks like a duck and goes quack, it's safe to assume it's a duck, right? If it went 'oink', then you'd be right to be a tad confuddled. Especially if you'd already prepared the sauce d'orange...

@The Southern Yeti OMG - I hadn't thought about the username since I changed!! 😳

Don't worry, though - like most minorities, TS people are very capable of self-mocking jokes - I know many...

No offence caused.

Rachel

But what if you never knew?

Well thanks to loddrik's TopTip, from now on I'm checking hands.......so I won't get caught out mate.

Well judging by the amount of tranny porn that's available

See, you're just setting yourself up there.

Probably more appropriate before though, eh? 😉

See, you're just setting yourself up there.

I only know about the availability of tranny porn 'cause it's the porn category after Spanking Big Mamas.

There are distinctions between gender dysphoria, 'trannies' and cross-dressers.
Rachel - am I correct in thinking gender dysphoria is genetically linked?

Rachel - am I correct in thinking gender dysphoria is genetically linked?

Ask loddrik...

loddrik, anything going on back through the family tree mate?