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[Closed] the staggering arrogance of Dwain chambers

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When a black guy uses "colonial" even by proxy ...

Well, regardless of how you interpret this ... the bottom line is that some of your ancestors enslaves some of his ancestors/race whatever. You might argue that it was a long time ago and that you have no such knowledge of the atrocities etc. i.e. not me or my ancestors, so not your fault etc.

I am afraid that is not the answer he wants to hear. The hatred is deep ... very deep.

Imagine I enslave the entire population of STW with me as your master and step on you like a maggot ... what will your descendants think of Dear Leader Junior eh?

I think you underestimated human nature by simply brushing history off. Once I asked my Irish colleague about Oliver Cromwell and guess what was her reply ... yes, the bar-stewart ... Surely it was history but why did she reply with such anger?

The moral of the story ...

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Posted : 02/05/2012 7:50 pm
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He's a lawyer and hardly likely to be stupid. Carefully thought out with words chosen precisely, in my view (of course)

Like in my opinion for example ?
Are you comfortable over there obfuscating, pin dancing and applying double standards with TJ 😉
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Posted : 02/05/2012 7:53 pm
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Neal - I am having a bit of fun, relax!

But to be serious, the word "arrogance" may be "displayed perfectly" by the highlighted phrase (although being colonial I would actually disagree!), and on its own would suffice to deliver the intended message. Lawyers are very correct with their language and colonial was inserted (unnecessarily) for a particular point to be made, in my view.

Not that it matters, DC will have the whole of UK fully behind him, including the BoA (in their opinion) 😉 Go Dwain, we will all be proud of you.


 
Posted : 02/05/2012 7:54 pm
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Yes JY, the 80' is delicious, the seating very comfortable and the whole subject looks great through beer glasses. May I pour one for you?

Now where did I put that pin?


 
Posted : 02/05/2012 7:57 pm
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In the modern world ...

'Colonial' = bureaucrats = pen pushers = nosey buggers = nanny state. 😆


 
Posted : 02/05/2012 7:58 pm
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No that's simple arrogance (some might say common sense?). The adjective 'colonial' adds a pejorative tone that has a long history with a well accepted meaning. He's a lawyer and hardly likely to be stupid. Carefully thought out with words chosen precisely, in my view (of course).

What a load of pompous tripe, we have been accused of "colonial arrogance" in pretty much every country in the world, it is a particular favourite of the USA, so it is perfectly capable of being used in a non racially motivated context. Perhaps you are jumping to conclusions because it is being said by an asian? A number of international sporting bodies regard the UK sporting bodies as having an arrogant attitude because they feel we think we have a god given right to have our view held above anyone else's. This, they believe probably rightly, stems from our codification of many sport during our "colonial" past. I can quite imagine that this phrase is thrown out quite a lot.

Therefore in the context it is a perfectly apposite choice of words - without necessary having racial overtones.

Finally, a lawyer is quite capable of having a view separate to his client, especially once the case is over, and indeed if it seems to be quite common for them to express them in high profile cases to ensure they generate publicity for themselves leading hopefully to more clients. Witness Charlotte Harris and Mark Lewis in the phone hacking cases.


 
Posted : 02/05/2012 8:09 pm
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I stand corrected mefty and take back my pompous tripe. I am convinced that given their shared histories and contexts that all nations use the word, "colonial" in exactly the same way. Makes a lot of sense....sorry TJ, we will have to cancel the beer!

edit: I assume as in the Suarez case, its all in the context, no? Not black and white.


 
Posted : 02/05/2012 8:15 pm
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Mefty, sorry just retread my last post. Sarcasm was unnecessary, apologies. I only meant to have a bit of a giggle earlier. In truth, I think the words are open to interpretation. I had been having a laugh with some work earlier and it carried on here. It shouldnt have, sorry!


 
Posted : 02/05/2012 10:08 pm
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The race angle just doesn't add up. The BOA have banned the nasty black man so all the white sprinters can go to the Olympics instead... Oh, wait...


 
Posted : 02/05/2012 11:31 pm
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I did not take it as sarcasm, I thought that the full weight of my argument was impossible to resist any longer, a first on this website - I am somewhat disappointed now.


 
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