[Closed] The iDave legacy..

I could eat 5000 calories of high fat low carb food, no worries.

I don't think it would be possible!

Did the round the world cyclist not force himself to drink Olive oil whilst crossing the desert as it was the only thing with enough calories for the journey?
Its about 500 ml or thereabouts so must be easy if somewhat odd!!!

I can eat a shitload of peanuts in addition to my normal diet 🙂 Highest calorie thing I know of other than pure oil is Bombay mix, and we all know how moreish that is 🙂

Christ on a bike.

You'd think he was, the way some people talk about his diet.

😉

Bombay mix,

This is not low carb!

I could eat 5000 calories of high fat low carb food, no worries.

I'm impressed but give me an example menu?

Well I admit, if you discount peanuts and bombay mix it's harder. Define low carb?

I think that was the opposite of iDave's plan, as least as he originally described it - he didn't present it as a long term dietary change but as tool for shedding weight as preparation, for instance, for a sporting event. Thats not to say it was necessarily faddy it was just a programme with a short term goal.

RST Low GI [b]fat loss[/b] programme (AKA the iDave diet)

If you think about how the science (allegedly) works then it makes sense to be a fat loss program, as by controlling insulin production you encourage your body to use stored calories for energy rather than keep stockpiling more.

So yes, if you have always eaten healthily & moderately and have never been overweight then of course you can carry on as normal, but if like me you let yourself go then the iDiet is great for getting back on track.

FWIW I still try to eat this way as much as possible even after reaching my target weight but am less strict now.

If somebody ate 5000 calories a day of high fat low carb food for three weeks, would they get fat?

So what was your target weight, zilog? Got any pics of yourself at it.. so to speak..?

Define low carb?

Very subjective. I work on less than 70g of carb per day but that is with fairly normal calorie intake. I suppose with 5000 cals you could go up to 200g.

Peanuts are low carb.

I think any food with <20% carb is low, <10% is very low.

Ok well I can put 200g of peanuts down as a snack, that's about 1100 calories. Three times a day that's most of the job done. Then I could have an omlette with stacks of cheese for breakfast; fried chicken at lunch and.. for dinner.. dunno. Philly cheese steak sandwich? Battered sausages?

So what was your target weight, zilog? Got any pics of yourself at it.. so to speak..?

I'd better go for a run tonight then...

Philly cheese steak sandwich? Battered sausages?

Not low carb! 🙂

I have just eaten,
half a chicken, cooked for 8 hours in the slow cooker, with leeks, carrots, parsnip, shallots, broccoli, peas and cabbage.

1DAVE'S IDIET ROCKS............. 8)

If somebody ate 5000 calories a day of high fat low carb food for three weeks, would they get fat?

As has been stated, it entirely depends on how many calories they expend. Also, low-carb does not mean no-carb.

The same guy ate 5000 calories a day of high fat low carb and [url= http://live.smashthefat.com/why-i-didnt-get-fat/ ]had very little weight gain[/url]. He later repeated his 'experiment' eating the same calories and doing the same exercise, but with the 'healthy' balance of macro-nutrients; [url= http://live.smashthefat.com/why-i-did-get-fat/ ]he gained weight exactly as the formula of calories in vs calories out states[/url].

Obviously, it's a sample of 1, but it agrees with a lot of the other work and research out there, and with the iDiet/4HB approach.

You could it 750g of Coal a day to get that 5000cals.
Probably loose weight on that diet too 🙂

I did the iDave diet for a month or so.

I didn't stick to it after the period but I did she'd about 10kg or so.

It's not gone back on other than a blip here and there of a kg or so after heavy weekends, which happen on occasions.

Generally it crept up by 2kg and has stayed there, overall loss is about 8kg.

Worked for me I guess.

Not sure I could go back to it, as anything other than a short term weight loss thing as I soon got sick of the food on it.

Well, there are some people on here, who despite taking great care what they eat, seem to be prepared to swallow any sort of crap if there is pseudo-science behind it.

the iDave legacy........ bowel cancer I suspect 😉

Everyone got their refund, didn't they?

Didn't they?

yes they dont want to hear that they want a magic pill and/or a someone to blame - sugars in food, refined carbs / modern farming - metabolism whatever

I used to be in a hillwalking club with a guy who was huge and blamed it on the 'hidden sugar in western food'.

When he hit a steep section on a walk he would stop for a mars bar to 'boost his energy'. It generally worked out at about a bar an hour.

Whoever hid that sugar, they weren't trying very hard...

the iDave legacy........ bowel cancer I suspect

what, from eating lean meat, fish and veg??

don't talk utter shyte man.

shyyyte it may be but I recall chorizzodave throwing a proper strop the last time someone started discussing the relationship between processed red meat and cancer

lean steak, pork, chicken, fish/salmon/mackerel is not processed

google 'idave chorizo singletrack' ..............

more hits than a family of starving, steroid-injected Mexican quintuplets armed with crowbars smacking the shit out of a candy-filled piñata

I did the iDave/4HB thing for a while. I wouldn't stick strictly with it forever but it's far less painful than simply cutting calories and worked very well for me. I need to do it again but that's because i've been eating too much junk food and not riding enough. Decreasing GI/GL is sustainable and my weakness for dirty carbs is not down to how I previously lost my lard.

Mind you, I might feel differently if I'd tried to buy a training plan...

re the processed meat thing. Low GI doesn't mean vast quantities of chorizo any more than not being teetotal means getting trollied on special brew every night.

He doesn't say you have to eat a lot of meat, processed or otherwise. Never did.

I wonder why people think that?

every time I saw him popping up with a recipe it seemed to include the spicy spanish sausage, just try that stw google search!

I just hope that some future epidemiologist is able to identify the causal factor in the Surrey Hills Bowel Cancer Epidemic of the 2040s and eliminate the false positives of driving an audi, working in IT and owning a santacruz 😉

I remember the iDave legacy being reports of cycling holidays in the sun, lighting cigars with crisp twenty pound notes that he robbed off paying customers.

don't forget the special IT problems that allowed him to post reports of the cycling trips but not answer emails or make refunds

indeed and yet some defended him and do still 😕

The iDave legacy for me is that my lunch most days now consists of half a tin of chickpeas, baby sweet corn, sliced mange tout, peppers, a sprinkle if mixed seeds, some olive oil and balsamic vinegar, and as much of a bag of mixed salad leaves as I can fit in the lunch box. Sometimes with chorizo, sometimes not.

And red wine most nights 🙂