I just finished this. Very interesting book indeed.
It throws a lot of conventional training and fitness advice out, and says that you can achieve great things with certain targetted exercises which are much more effective than hours of grinding out the miles.
It sounds like rubbish, except that the examples are either experiments he's done on himself or the exploits of coaches training very famous athletes.
Now it could be all lies, but some of it certainly seemed to tie up with things I've experienced myself, so I'll definitely give some of it a try.
I'm bringing out a book next year called the 4 minute body. It's basically taking the concept to the next level for the more extreme cash rich time wannabe athlete. Plus in chapter 7 I'll explain how you can get the female orgasm down from 15 minutes to 15 seconds.
My book, the 4 second body will eclipse all of those.
So, I'll put you in the 'bullsh*t' group shall I?
Molgrips - we already know that you are in the gullible camp when it comes to diet and exercise.
Harsh SBZ , harsh
*s****s*
Did you not see me being really sceptical about these ideas when iDave first came on here?
molgrips - MemberIt sounds like rubbish, except that the examples are either experiments he's done on himself or the exploits of coaches training very famous athletes.
I wonder if there's any cross-reference between those famous athletes, and the ones wearing powerbalance bracelets?
There's quite a few wearing big gold medals around their necks.
Molgrips... does it involve HIIT?
Basically yes.
We did try and tell you...
Molgrips - no.
TJ - it was harsh but fair.
Building fitness is like building a pyramid, the better and bigger you build the base the higher you can make it without it falling over.
Those s****ing at the back, read and learn........
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640399/?tool=pmcentrez
Building fitness is like building a pyramid
Yes, and the higher you go, the more pointy it gets.
Once you have a good base fitness HIIT is the way to go, throw those old fashioned textbooks out and update your knowledge 🙄
We did try and tell you...
Yep, and I was sceptial, and I read, thought and learned.
I was particularly interested in the stuff about increasing endurance with small amounts of weight training.
This is the one 'bout sexy time, isn't it?
I'm glad you've done the research... care to share about the weight training stuff?
Do you think this might make you less sceptical of others in the future, or more trusting of people who clearly know what they're on about?
molgripsI read, thought and learned.
Good on you, rigid old fashioned ideas can only be overcome by updating your knowledge, we're not all stuck in the 70's 😆
emsz e-mail me, I'll take you through it in detail!
Why isn't your mrs home yet?
This is the one 'bout sexy time, isn't it?
Yeti time is always sexy time, isn't it 😳
She is.
*points at GF sitting at table in corner surrounded by books*
I'm going to interfere with her in a moment 😆
I'm going to interfere with her in a moment
My mind is so [s]filthy[/s] I mean [s]smutty[/s] sexy.
It has sexy time in it. I skipped that chapter, it was a little too personal from his point of view.. sometimes you have to do your own experimenting and learning, and not read someone else's over-analysis!
we can do some experiments tonight
Yeti - you have to understand that at first you're just some random bloke on a forum. iDave's pretty tight lipped about his credentials, and wouldn't elaborate for obvious reasons - it's his living.
Lots of people can APPEAR to know what they are talking about.. I'm not going to immediately lap up everything from every forum goer, that'd be far too gullible 🙂
Re the weight training stuff - far too much for me to relate, and I skimmed most of it. Buy the book it's only a few quid!
Re the sexy bits, I expect emsz knows all the stuff in there already 🙂
*puts rigid SS 29er onto classifieds*
Yep, you're right Molly.
I'm still a random bloke off of a forum, but iDave has always seemed like he knows exactly what he's on about!
iDave has always seemed like he knows exactly what he's on about!
Yup, easily spot the good'uns because they're not too bothered about being proved right.
From the start iDave never got defensive or argumentative, despite the s****s, just said his bit and shared his knowledge 😀
iModelmyselfonhim.
iDon't, but iDo like his style.....
He seems like a top bloke, I wonder how quick he is on a bike? 🙂
Hilldodger are you in the fitness business perhaps?
Hilldodger - my point is not to disregard HIIT as a method of training, it is more that if you jump straight into HIIT your pyramid will fall over and you'll get injured lots and you wont stick to it.
Another way of putting it is that you wouldn't want to go red-lining a shonky old austin maestro before you'd ensured that it wouldnt blow up.
old austin maestro before you'd ensured that it wouldnt blow up.
And why wouldn't you want to blow up an old austin maestro?
The 4 hour body info is great if you want to a boost and short-cut to better fitness but it's not designed for people who want to excel in sport - high level performance gains are a little more complex with lots of variables to deal with. SbZ, there isn't much evidence that HIIT should only be for elite level athletes.
What is HIIT ??
High Intensity Interval Training.
The quickest may to make you feel sick and lightheaded without taking drugs.
Edit: Infact it's quicker than drugs.
Ah OK pure high end. Yes, pointless without base. Unless you specialize in short track events, and only plan to race one at a time. IMHO of course.
iDave - I didnt say that it was only for elite athletes. What I said was that if you skip straight to high intensity interval work you will injure yourself very quickly. Another way of putting it would be that there are no shortcuts to getting fit.
Ah, but there are many shortcuts SbZ
Again, very little evidence that you'll get injured just by doing intervals.
iDave - define shortcut.
And you are saying that there is evidence that HIIT should only be used by elite athletes and that you'll get injured just by doing intervals? Can you show me some please seeing as you assumably know where it is. 😀
Isn't HIIT a tautology? Does anyone do low intensity intervals?
you [s]will[/s] might injure yourself very quickly
FIFY
Personally I don't see why you'd injure yourself anymore quickly... 'High' is going to be a percieved level of exertion based on your current level of fitness.
It's all relative!
Finbar, HIIT are close to maximum effort - way past Vo2max
You can do effective intervals much lower than that for some difference gains
finbar - no and what about moderate, peak level etc...
Pretty much everything 'works'. For a while. Then you adapt or burn out.
My favourite short-term workout: [url=
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