[Closed] The Fast Show - racist and sexist?

So you decided to bring us all down with you?

I watched Ace Ventura for the first time in years, and it turns out to be horribly homophobic and transphobic. ☹️ Ruined one of my all time favourite films.

Times change I suppose, what seemed fine 25 years ago isn't now.

Thing is I've never been homophobic (a gay sister tends to make you realise whether you are or not quite quickly!) So how come I didn't pick up on this at the time? Odd.

Does my bum look big isn't sexist, is it? They have created a silly character who does silly things - just happens to be a woman, no? Plenty of daft women out there, we should be able to take the mickey out of them same as we do for men, surely? Competitive Dad was just as much male stereotyping?

NB this post is meant to be provocative, personally I'm not sure if it counts as sexist but it's worth discussing.

Athethe athethethethe Chris Waddle.

It was all just the same joke repeated over and over, even the good ones weren't worth waiting around for the punchline in 15 episodes time...

Black.

Black

..and mental ilness-ist

Bring back, 'Love Thy Neighbour', that's what I say.

There'll be no such thing as 'humour' before long anyway, one persons humour is always someone else's 'ism'

Nah, it was all done ironically.

The 90s was the age of ‘Policial Correctness’ it was different, but equally soul serching when it came to not upsetting anyone.

it was always pish

You want racist, homophobic and sexist then read some Ian Fleming.

Channel 9 – how can that not be viewed as racist

Which race is it discriminating against?

Rowley Birkin QC.....BRILLIANT ....I was very very drunk

jessies diets - fattist

Bob Flemming - coughist

Ron Manager - stereotypist

In such puritanical times it's easy to dissect the past looking for heretics. But what's the point?

And OP, I've reported you to the police as your name contains the words 'OLD' and 'HOES'

In such puritanical times it’s easy to dissect the past looking for heretics. But what’s the point?

It's a good point, well made. The main issue was that I wanted my son to share in it, and like it - I'm just left feeling that it isn't appropriate for this this time.

What pisses me off even more is that Monty Python hasn't suffered the same fate - and I'm no fan of Monty Python (but that's a whole different thread 😉 )

Oh give over. I suppose Unlucky Alf is ageist? Well I'm rapidly approaching old age and I think it's funny. Lighten up.

I loved Baywatch, am i sexist, nope.

Channel 9 – how can that not be viewed as racist

Channel 9 was a parody of the foreign TV that people saw when abroad on holiday in Spain, Greece etc. By UK standards many of their television programmes were rubbish. Taking the mickey put of them was not being racist. Indeed, you may recall that the cheesy Channel 9 adverts for the orange pumping gadget (which had a different purpose each week), ended with a blonde woman in a bikini making a pop sound pulling a finger out of her mouth. It's a shame you failed to realise that the Fast Show was parodying the sexism in those foreign cultures that was visible in their TV programmes.

As for sexist, well no not really either. One of the characters played by Arabella Weir was an smart woman who was routinely ignored by the (less intelligent) men around her. Her character would voice the solution to a problem which the men would pretend not to hear, until one of the men said the exact same thing and was then praised  by the other blokes for being so clever.

Unfortunately what I have written above is rather dull and not funny, which is what happens when you have to explain humour.

Fast Show was comedy. Brilliaaaannnnt! Comedy. If you don't like it, watch modern stuff like Mrs. Brown's Boys. Suits you sir.

OP - it may be racist and/or sexist - I really can't be arsed to analyse the ins and outs of a comedy show from the past.  But why on earth does it make you sad?!  Have you not got more important things to worry about...

Arse.

Fast Show was comedy. Brilliaaaannnnt! Comedy. If you don’t like it, watch modern stuff like Mrs. Brown’s Boys. Suits you sir.

Imagining these two programmes as polar opposites on each end of the comedy spectrum actually made me laugh, well done 😀

Estaba bastante decepcionado por lo mal que parece Chris Waddle haber envejecido. La risa enlatada es intrusiva, y algunos de los bocetos / personajes no pasarían hoy.

Me siento scorchio

OP I guess it applies to lost of repeats

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Caroline Ahern is an anagram of combat eighteen. Makes you think.

Which was nice.

It’s “suit you sir”. Not suits.

Let’s off-road!

Butros Butros Gali!

Oh, and living in Australia, we actually have a Channel 9. I can confirm that it makes the Fast Show's parody seem both sensible and intelligible. This is odd as allegedly the presenters on Australia's Channel 9 are supposed to be speaking in English.

I was going to try to explain why the comedy might not be so relevant but then I ... **** it - clearly not worth it.

Loved it at the time, the 'dodgy' bits are clearly parody/pastiche/satire.

The Ted/Ralph unrequited bromance story was genius.

Some of it was filmed on a friend’s farm, I have had my lunch in Jessie’s hut. “Oooh!”

I have had my lunch in Jessie’s hut.

What were you mostly eating?

Probably a ham sandwich.

What were you mostly eating

Roasted chickens.

You lock me in the cellar and feed me pins.

This week, I are mostly ruining classic comedy.

I would just say it's less sophisticated humour than we get these days. The context is not either of those things.

I always find it interesting that we're more offended by TV racism/sexism per se than other problematic areas of modern culture.

I think humour about people with disabilities still doesn't get the same hysteria.

It’s worth listening to Arabella Weir’s interview on the comedians comedian podcast 

OP - you watched the programs the first time and enjoyed them. Then you watched them again some years later and you didn't enjoy them. The program hasn't changed, you have changed.

Do you feel guilty for having enjoyed them the first time?

Sounds great, thanks for the headsup op.

If you think it is racist or sexist then you have missed the point/joke as it is neither.