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That's been coming for 20 minutes. Needed to make some changes to change the flow. Southgate perhaps a little slow, reluctant to act in haste?


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:29 pm
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You were all too relaxed there weren’t you?

Mate, I haven't sat down or dropped my heart rate below 200 since 1:57


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:30 pm
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Is anyone watching this on ITV?

My gran waiting for coronation street


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:33 pm
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Its like the World Cup semi v Croatia this.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:36 pm
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England have adopted the full 'Rabbits in Headlights' ethos of the mid 2000s now.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:38 pm
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Italian acting has started ...


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:41 pm
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It's mad how the game can flip around so much isn't it. England are clinging on now having looked very comfortable in the first half.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:43 pm
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Can't see Chiesa ever being to play again.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:43 pm
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Wow I take that back, he's really injured. Boy. Wolf


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:47 pm
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Yes, England didn't have answer to the Italian pressure. Also the fouling by rotation to prevent them from changing the tempo and direction.
It's a carbon copy of the Spain game.
They won't let you break on you quickly, they just foul you. If you can't attack them quick, they will keep you in front of them.
Spain created some chances by quick passing and changing the point if attack. Also by pressing one area of the pitch when the Italians had the ball.
England are playing a defacto 4-4-2/4-5-2. Too easy for the Italian midfield.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:48 pm
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England to score in the first 5 mins, then 80 mins of terrifying end to end, then Italy score in the 90th minute and again in the first minute of extra time, then England fall to pieces.

Apart from the timing, pretty much spot on.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:55 pm
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England out on penalties..


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:57 pm
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Thats a red for me.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:58 pm
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Outrageous foul that. Not sure how he's still on.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:58 pm
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Outrageous foul, definitely deserved a red

Edit: jinx!


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 10:58 pm
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Time to get Grealish and Sancho on, no point having such quality on the bench if you don't give them time to change the game, Sterling and Mount have run out of steam.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:00 pm
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So what happened in the missing minute?


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:00 pm
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Time to get Grealish and Sancho on, no point having such quality on the bench if you don’t give them time to change the game,

This

Need to get the initiative back. Italy offered v little in the first half.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:01 pm
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England have never been able to keep possession against really good teams, even more so when trying to keep onto a lead. Can’t pass, can’t move. Same old England.

Southgate needs to grow some balls and change it.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:01 pm
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Yeah, the rules don't really anticipate that. Which they really should, it happens often enough. You could argue it's excessive force or brutality but it's not the "approved definition"

That must be the superior technical ability Mancini was talking up against England's physicality.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:01 pm
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Mounts now ineffective going forward or defending. Agree he needs to come off and Grealish on.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:02 pm
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England have never been able to keep possession against really good teams

Didn't look that way in the first half to me.


 
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England have never been able to keep possession against really good teams,

No one can, that's what makes them good. It's like Man City. Spain couldn't do it against this team and they are much better at short quick passes in tight spaces.

Gotta be honest, it's a massive gamble, but I'd be thinking Calvert Lewin. Straight down the middle, big, fast and 2 centre half's on a yellow....


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:05 pm
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There's a lot of 'prison tat's' on the Italian team.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:05 pm
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Agree Mount needs to come off (he'll probably score now).

Why are we not making changes our subs have made all the difference in other games?


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:07 pm
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Sterling too tired to take advantage there.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:09 pm
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And it's starting to get too often that Italy are allowed to muscle us of the ball, but not the other way around.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:12 pm
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Sterling's touch has always been a bit iffy, Got it stuck in his feet. Not canny enough either, the old Ronaldo cross foot back heel would have put his foot right in front of a sliding Chielini.....
Gamecraft, guile, cunning. Just don't have it.


 
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And it’s starting to get too often that Italy are allowed to muscle us of the ball, but not the other way around.

It's how we do it. We bump, they grab and nibble

Watch the Copa for instance, you'll see how different referring leads to a totally different game, different types of teams winning because of it.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:14 pm
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Didn’t look that way in the first half to me.

Not really. England got an early goal, Italy were a bit rocked because they’re not used to going a goal down. We had 3-4 moments of moving the ball down the wing but failed to take advantage. The more the half went on, the more the Italians took control.


 
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Posted : 11/07/2021 11:20 pm
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England got the early goal and changed, great wide players, but they narrowed it down and played back, they barely put a foot in before Italy make it to the halfway line, no real pressing, which the Italians have done well and what's pushed them.

Still 15 minutes, would have liked to see Sancho given a run with his ability out wide, but Rashford on now who is quick and doesn't mind doing the wide role.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:22 pm
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Not really. England got an early goal, Italy were a bit rocked because

The first half England were much better, both in and out of possession. The had more of the ball. The were much better at stopping Emerson and Verrati and Jorginho from playing the ball. Italy got frustrated. They adjusted at half time, England didn't, or couldn't counter.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:24 pm
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bad challenge wheres var in this match


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:31 pm
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Surely we've had red cards for less than that?


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:32 pm
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He's done that on purpose imo. Then pretended to be injured.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:32 pm
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That was a nailed on red. Studs up, over the ball. Ridiculous. Too late to do any good.


 
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That is a red card challenge. I didn't think you could lunge in any more studs up?


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:33 pm
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Italy should be down to 9 men...


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:33 pm
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As a Welsh fan I have to agree with the English here. Italy lucky to have 11 men.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:35 pm
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How is Sancho only getting 2 mins what's the point? Pens?


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:37 pm
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Then pretended to be injured.

Gamecraft, guile, cunning. Hope to plant the seed of doubt in the refs mind. Course in Kuipers case, your have to find it first. I've never rated him as a ref. This game reminds me why. It's not if you foul with him, it's how that determines if he calls it


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:38 pm
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Saka has been so poor, should have had Sancho on  . He does leave things a while with the subs.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:38 pm
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Gamecraft, guile, cunning. Hope to plant the seed of doubt in the refs mind.

Isn't that why we have VAR?

Agreed re Saka. He looked v promising in his first game but hasn't done much since really.


 
Posted : 11/07/2021 11:40 pm
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Pens - we're doomed


 
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