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Wow 2-1 Hungary !
Do they have the same gnashing and wailing in all those countries as we do?
They certainly do in Spain, no idea about the rest.
This is turning into a bit of a classic now.
Finally something positive, MSP , quite a performance from two teams already qualified in which the loser gets the easiest ride from here in.
and that one should have been a penalty.
Well the group of death properly living up to its billing
Germany-England then. 🙂
In one of my random bets I’ve put a fiver on Engerland going out in a penalty shoot out (at 5/1) and now they’ve got Germany 😂
Why are Portugal 3rd,with equal goal difference but more goals scored?
The tournament came alive for me tonight. Haven't really got into it so far, what with the lack of a host country therefore meaning it has lacked an identity IMO. And coming so soon after a compressed season. But tonight with a top game (second half anyway) with a bit of controversy and the swings in the group positions, it's been a bit of proper evening of entertainment.
Belgium Portugal will be tasty. France in second gear tonight, got the impression they could have stepped things up if required.
Good drama but 4 penalties in a game, most of them dubious - meh
Why are Portugal 3rd,with equal goal difference but more goals scored?
It must be on goals conceded rather than scored. Think goals scored would be the better metric. i.e. favour the more attacking side.
You have a ref’s decision confirmed by the video people, what more do you want?
You have an on-field decision judged to be not obviously wrong enough to overturn. Big difference.
Have you ever watched Ederson? He’s so much better than Pickford at distribution. Y
Yep. Ederson is good with his feet. In fact, one criticism of Pep is that he'll take a worse shot stopper with better feet. Pickford is also recognised for the quality of his kicking game.
What’s your prediction for tonight’s games?
Sorry, was watching the games so no time to answer til now. My predictions were both games would finish 2 all. I even wrote it down in case I needed to prove it after the fact. Hang on, let me get a pen and I'll show you.
VAR and the refs didn't have a great day, was it 5 or 6 dodgy pens?
Letting that stand is just encouraging people to go over in the box with the slightest contact
That horse bolted so long ago its glue by now. Still let it never be said the FIFA won't close the barn door at some point.
Why are Portugal 3rd,with equal goal difference but more goals scored?
It must be on goals conceded rather than scored. Think goals scored would be the better metric. i.e. favour the more attacking side.
Not that it matters now, but it goes by the goal difference between the teams that are on the same points, so as Portugal lost to Germany 4-2 they were -2, Germany +2
I know it’s not about the Euros specifically, but UEFA have abolished the away goals rule for European ties next year. It’s been around for about 50 years I think.
Interesting, and probably the correct decision but I think I’ll miss it! Always added a bit more intrigue to big European ties in my opinion.
wasn't it partly introduced to stop the away teams just shutting up shop. be going back to 2 points for a win next.
They've binned it for extra time and penalties
It will just make the games even duller
Dull, maybe but far greater opportunities for the betting companies that sponsor the teams and competitions.
Well the original intention was to stop the away team shutting up shop and just defending. But now the opposite has happened and because of the "extra" bonus of an away goal, the home teams shut up shop and defend.
I kind of agree with UEFA's logic on this one, there are arguments to be made either way, but it is at least worth trying.
Has anyone ever watched extra time and not thought 'well that's half an hour of my life I'll never get back'?
Euro 96 semi final springs to mind
MSP - away goals was also brought in because of some of the dark arts apparently that went on. Deliberately dodgy pitches, suspicious refereeing etc which gave the home side an extra advantage. Apparently over the years the amount of away wins has increased as these issues have reduced, hence them doing away with the away goals bonus.
Nice goal : (
Looks like there are more to come.
Yeah Wales were looking good between 10-20 minutes but seem to have gone to pieces now. Giving away silly free kicks which is frustrating. Just need to get some possession, calm it down a bit, build confidence and go back on the offensive.
Edit: But yeah really nice goal.
I seem to recall a story about Clough getting the pitch marked out for the visiting team to train on the day before a European tie and then on the day of the game getting the groundsman to rub the lines out and remark it as narrow as they could to negate the other team's wingers - something like that.
The Welsh players should learn to throw themselves to ground a little more theatrically.
Shenanigans with the pitch were commonplace, watering/not watering, marking the pitch to favour your team's style (I'm looking at you, Arsenal, at the old Highbury) length of the grass etc, etc.
Extra time tends to make teams play not to lose, although if they keep the extra subs rule too, the bigger teams will like it. Deeper squads with fresh legs should have no trouble finishing off the smaller clubs in ET.
Moore received one of the softest yellows in living memory...
Wales are all over the place.
And then Moore gets fouled in the build up. I guess VAR tried to rewind the tape that far but the VCR ate it.
Moore tried to plant the seed in his press conference saying he does t get fair calls from the officials because of his size. That backfired.
Williams thrown in cold and and hasn't found his composure. Although that cross was very nice.
Denmark showing the benefit of their experience.
Moore received one of the softest yellows in living memory
Yep. An early yellow like that will substantially limit your play, especially if you're a traditional British target man
Wales just look knackered. Too much travelling.
Anyone else think the Danish manager looks a bit like Björn from ABBA?
Yep. An early yellow like that will substantially limit your play, especially if you’re a traditional British target man
I'm absolutely sure the Dane knew that as he stood there like a statue waiting for Moore to breathe on him.
Anyone else think the Danish manager looks a bit like Björn from ABBA?
Hadn't really noticed. One of the Welsh coaches looks a lot like a coach from the Prem. Chelsea?
The danes even dive when the ref touches them.
Well, I enjoyed the first 10 minutes.
Well done Denmark, well deserved winners.
Wales just look knackered. Too much travelling.
Their heads have dropped. Denmark have done a superb job of compressing the space, marked Ramsey out of the game, pushed Bale out to where his threat is diminished. Outside the first 15 minutes Wales have been beating themselves against the Danish block. They are frustrated and that is tiring.
Followed by the softest red I've seen
Frustrated. Willing to take a yellow.
Wales not exactly covering themselves in glory.