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Right, are there any??

The bread knife has been reading articles and is now adamant that it's the next big thing health wise.

Me, the jury's out and i'm leaning to the side of cynicism.

Apparently it disrupts sleep (never had any trouble) and a bunch of other things that have never happened to me....

Just wondering if there are any strong opinions one way or the other out there in the STW ether??

I would think after 20 years plus of increasing EMF's there would be something more conclusive than someone selling crystals to 'fix' it.

Over to you.....


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:31 pm
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Basically the same thing as radio and TV broadcasts, which is basically the same thing as sunlight.

Therefore natural and all good 🙂


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:34 pm
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And all the radio signals we're constantly bombarded with from outer space. We're bathed in a constant shower of radiation all the time.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:35 pm
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It's 100% nonsense with no scientific backing whatsoever.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:35 pm
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Right, are there any??

No, because they're

basically the same thing as sunlight.

and

We're bathed in a constant shower of radiation all the time.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:37 pm
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What articles has she been reading? Check their provenance and credentials first.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:37 pm
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Do you have a crystal egg to hand?


 
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As long as you have a big egg shaped crystal you`ll be fine

Edit * ^^ egg beaten to it


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:38 pm
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Basically the same thing as radio and TV broadcasts, which is basically the same thing as sunlight.

Ah no, not really. Would you stick your head in a box with a bright torch inside? Probably. Would you stick your head in a microwave? Probably not. How about a box containing Caesium-137?


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:39 pm
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There was the thread about someone's work colleague that might be worth reading 😆 I think there was a comment about this sort of thing only affecting English speakers, hmm.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:39 pm
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Would you stick your head in a microwave?

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Posted : 11/01/2018 3:42 pm
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which is basically the same thing as sunlight.

Except for the different classifications and therefore effects of different frequencies. X-rays and gamma rays aren't quite so safe (same sort of wave, different frequency). UV is a lot worse than wifi for sunburn...

I do a lot of non-ionising radiation safety stuff at work. It is well documented and researched, although there are still few long term (several decades) studies. We've been bombarded with this sort of stuff since radio and TV were invented.

Stuff is safe within prescribed limits which are very cautious (occupational exposure limits are 10x public exposure, but still thought of as safe).

Blind/placebo studies on people who claim that they suffer ill health have all shown it doesn't make any difference. In one case, people who claimed to suffer were invited to a retreat. After a week a mobile phone mast was placed outside and they were told it had been switched on. Some folk got hospitalised, their symptoms were so bad. So after another week they told the test subjects that the mast was switched off and everyone suddenly got better. Of course, the point at which they said it was turned off was when they actually switched it on...


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:43 pm
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A friend of mine had a seizure and was diagnosed with a brain tumour about 5 months ago. He was told to stop using his mobile phone straight away?. I realise that's a different kind of signal. The human race would be wiped out by now if Wifi etc affected our health.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:44 pm
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Yep. I know someone who claims to suffer from this so I turn the WiFi off when they are around and they feel better - even though there are lots of stronger stations around. It seems that the fear of it is much worse than anything actually caused by the 'radiation' 🙁

He was told to stop using his mobile phone straight away?
I'm ok with that though. The strength of the field drops off proportionally to the square of the distance. The field from a gsm right next to your head will be way more than anything radiated from wireless hubs or the such like


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:47 pm
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During my career I have worked extensively with the same microwave frequencies as WiFi and mobile comms, at significantly higher power levels (i.e. 100's of kilowatts) than those emitted by mobile handsets and wifi routers. I and my colleagues have always slept very well


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 3:50 pm
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A space blanket may help.

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Posted : 11/01/2018 3:58 pm
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sometimes wireless devices develop faults and continue to function but are putting out a lot more signal or harmonics etc than they should.

A neighbour had an alarm system that was repeately triggering, engineer could not work it out tested and replaced everything, one day they upgraded the wifi router and it stopped happening....

slept well ever since.

*invests in tinfoil*


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:00 pm
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Depends on how close you are to the mobile phone mast. Stand close enough for long enough in the right location and it will **** you up.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:01 pm
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A space blanket may help.

Space blanket? That's for amateurs! Try [url= https://www.bellyarmor.com/ ]https://www.bellyarmor.com/[/url] 😆


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:02 pm
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I suggest you check on the internet

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There was the thread about someone's work colleague that might be worth reading I think there was a comment about this sort of thing only affecting English speakers, hmm.

Yeah...

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/colleague-keeps-switching-off-the-wifi-as-it-makes-her-feel-ill

Bonkers!


 
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Actually we're mostly empty space, so though we're under constant bombardment from radio waves from a variety of different sources there is very little actual physical interactions. Most particles pass through out bodies and don't actually collide with any of our bodies particles, so unlikely to cause any cellular damage.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:25 pm
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Well I can speak from first hand experience of this.
Once whilst using my mobile on our WiFi connection at home I developed a terrible headache (the type where you rub your temples and suck air through the gaps in your teeth, so serious business).
I switched of the WiFi, took some anadin extra and went to Sleep.
The very next day my headache was completely gone!

So science...over to you!


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:29 pm
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A neighbour had an alarm system that was repeately triggering, engineer could not work it out tested and replaced everything, one day they upgraded the wifi router and it stopped happening....

slept well ever since.

*invests in tinfoil*

Are you an alarm system?


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:30 pm
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So science...over to you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:30 pm
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I switched of the WiFi

Why would you do this?

took some anadin extra

Ah, more money than sense. As you were. 🙂


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:35 pm
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Alarm systems going off in that manner is just a voltage being induced by the radio signal. One place I worked at would keep triggering at odd times. Fortunately the police were always on hand - it was their radio frequency that triggered it!


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 4:36 pm
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e=hf

So a higher frequency has more energy.

So anyone who is struggling with 2.4 of 5Ghz from WiFi would probably spontaneously combust if they go anywhere near visible light which is 400 to 800THz.

So whatever you do don't let them switch on any lights


 
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There is a degree of irony that this post immediately followed a post about Poe's law.

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I switched of the WiFi

Why would you do this?


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 5:04 pm
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I suspect that this is one of those situations where a tenner on anti-radiation stickers

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quantum-Shield-Mobile-Phone-Sticker-With-Negative-Ions-Anti-Radiation-Shield/292110378899?hash=item440322a793:g:PUcAAOSwZ4dZEGpg

would be a beneficial investment, if only for domestic harmony.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 5:07 pm
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I switched of the WiFi

Why would you do this?

took some anadin extra
Ah, more money than sense. As you were. ]

The WiFi has clearly impacted my ability to form simple sentences, and spell.

I’m pretty sure that because of the higher quality packaging Anadin Extra is the only option in low level pain medication, it has to be, as it clearly states that it has Extra.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 5:12 pm
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So a higher frequency has more energy.

Ah not necessarily. A higher frequency photon has more energy. But you can have fewer photons.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 5:24 pm
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I present Noel Edmunds and his Electrosmog.

Great name for a band.

http://www.****/tvshowbiz/article-4774210/Noel-Edmonds-says-death-doesn-t-exist-interview.html

I do not read the Daily Mail but came up on google. 😉


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 7:06 pm
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[quote=minley1 ]The WiFi has clearly impacted my ability to form simple sentences, and spell.

I suggest you switch it off before posting.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 7:07 pm
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I would think after 20 years plus of increasing EMF's

Unbelievable 🙄


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 7:16 pm
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I’ve worked around EMR most of my life from power transformers into the megawatt range , with high power switched rectifiers where the err leakage would mess with peoples watches, to today’s cellular comms systems. We climb around mobile antennas with Radiation alert devices (for our particular flavour of RF) and they very rarely trigger.

I’m still here, I haven’t got a third eye and when my anger management issues get out of hand I don’t turn green.

They only odd quirk we’ve observed (in an admittedly small test group) is that anybody that has spawned whilst on the tools has had girls and as soon as they’ve turned into Management or Tech Support scum they’ve spawned boys.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 7:28 pm
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Nice warm flat

[url= https://www.google.co.uk/maps/ @55.9297794,-4.3159224,3a,75y,90.1h,93.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6VAWohHsNliumy6mvyQNaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656]Bearsden flat beside tower[/url]


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 7:31 pm
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which is basically the same thing as sunlight.

So they cause skin cancer?


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 8:04 pm
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Yes but skin cancer is [i]natural[/i], therefore good.

See also: arsenic.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 8:06 pm
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You've got more problems from the the plastics on your phone leaching through your trousers and into your bollocks..... 😀


 
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I would think after 20 years plus of increasing EMF's
Unbelievable

ISWYDT


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 9:09 pm
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I’ve worked around EMR most of my life ... I’m still here

To be fair that's no better than the 'my Gran smoked 20 a day and lived to 80' evidence that pro smokers come out with.


 
Posted : 11/01/2018 9:31 pm
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🙄

Are you suggesting 2/3 of the people they worked with are dead ?
Have you some evidence to prove its dangerous?
Behave Molly its a just a jokey point its not a science paper.


 
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