It’ll only take 19 of them to do that and he’s gone.
No it won't. They changed the rules last week. Good to see the same old arguements and you as the self appointed forum police still going strong. First time in months that I've even looked at a politics thread.....off I'll pop again!
No it won’t. They changed the rules last week.
They changed the rules a while back to say that they’re ‘safe’ for a year before they face another leadership election, but what’s changed since then? I can’t find any reference to anything.
Jenrick is already being openly threatened by the feral, backbench right wing looms before he’s even been elected that he’s ‘on notice’. The reality is that the Tory party is completely ungovernable and the last 10 years have had the right wing tail wagging the dog. It was that that delivered us Brexit, Johnson, Truss amongst other joys
Whoever wins the poisoned chalice in a couple of weeks, I wouldn’t risk a penny of my money on betting they’d still be in place at the next general election. By Tory standards they’d be in for some sort of long service award if they were. No chance. Gone 12 months and 1 day after being elected to be immediately replaced by the next sock puppet
1922 members have been briefing the likes of GBN that’ll they change it to 36. Making themselves feel relevant I suppose. There probably will be change with such a small number of MPs. But look at the votes for Badenoch… whatever the threshold set is… and they have a year to decide and implement one… there will be more MPs than that ready to resist any move towards normal.
The coverage of the leadership election as brought to you from the 1950’s
https://Twitter.com/marinapurkiss/status/1846921079253590131?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
Well the big day has arrived at last!
Anybody know what time it'll be announced?
Please let it be Madenoch, please let it be Madenoch, please let it be Madenoch?..........
I have a horrible fear it will slimy Jenrick.
11am & Badenoch has it in the bag according to Conservatives Home.
Yeah I think kemi trails has it from what I've been reading
I liked Ian Dunts synopsis:
For the record, I'm hoping it's Kemi Badenoch, because she genuinely believes in her horrible views. Robert Jenrick does not genuinely believe in his horrible views and therefore has no moral floor to his behaviour. But really, it's touch-and-go. They are both unconscionably dreadful people. The polling, such as it is, points to Badenoch. I suspect Jenrick will win, on the basis that the worst possible thing always happens.
whoever wins, they’ve probably got 18 months before the next Tory leadership election
Yep, that's about right.
I'm old enough to remember the statesmanlike Jimmy dimly.
Gosh, he was the foreign secretary
Radio 4 news bulletin stating that it's Badenoch and will be announced shortly.
they are absolutely ****ed.
Gosh, he was the foreign secretary
But then so was Boris Johnson and Liz Truss before him. So maybe his campaign manager Grant Shapps had assured him that the leadership was his destiny, right upto the point where he monumentally ****ed up the maths in the second vote to unceremoniously dump him out 😀
Reckon Cleverly didn't sound nearly disappointed enough to have been out of the race. He's playing the long game, knows they have to troll the depths of this right wing fever dream, and will be back in 18 months' time when more of the batty tory membership have passed away, and what's left might realise they need something "a bit more sensible "
You never know. Nige might be on board by then.
I forgot that was on this morning, the national c%&t off finals. Edge of my seat...
Its really gripped the nation, hasn't it?
2 bald blokes fighting over a comb
Honest Bob’s wife looks like she’s been cloned from a cross between thatcher and Theresa May.
can anyone hear the champagne corks popping in Downing Street?
She's presently having a massive fight with herself about who's going to be in the shadow cabinet
https://Twitter.com/Parody_PM/status/1852671090616643984
Not all all. I didn't like Corbyn but he did have some principles.
Kemi is just another highly entitled, rabid right-wing, misanthropic, racist who's confidence is much greater than her intelligence. She thinks she's a great orator but all I see is a rather silly person playing at being a MP 'cos she probably couldn't hold down a real job. Thick as mince with unparalleled levels of arrogance.
I didn’t like Corbyn but he did have some principles.
Of course but I'm not really talking about his policies, more the cirumstances which are very similar, and which will almost certainly have the same results.
She thinks she’s a great orator but all I see is a rather silly person playing at being a MP ‘cos she probably couldn’t hold down a real job. Thick as mince with unparalleled levels of arrogance.
She's the worst orator I've ever heard. Proabably the worst case of Dunning-Kruger I've ever seen. She reminds me of people I see at work who have bullied and manoevred their way into senior positions despite being utterly useless and completely absent of any principle or scruples.
Of course but I’m not really talking about his policies, more the cirumstances which are very similar, and which will almost certainly have the same results.
Fully agree with this. And Madenoch does have principles in which she believes, it's just they are foul disgusting principles. Honesty Bob however was from the Johnson school of slime and would say whatever he thought sounded best.
We're not going through a vintage period of leading UK politicians with actual oratory qualities.
She’s the worst orator I’ve ever heard.
To say that when Truss is still in the recent memory is a strong statement. Mind you, Starmer is pretty dire too. Not in the same league clearly, but he'd have been lucky to make it to 5th Lobster in the school christening performance.
I'm still disappointed Cleverly didn't make it. I'd still have rather eaten a bowl of cold sick than vote tory, but a Cleverly Tory party might have given right leaning voters a slightly more sane party to find a find a home in. It didn't matter which of the last 2 had been elected, we're going to be in a situation where they will be giving a legitimate and loud voice to nasty opinions. That will inevitably mean that millions of people with a latency being ****s will now be emboldened to think being a **** is ok.
I think she'll be quite good*
* and by good I mean she'll come up with plenty of mean things to say about the goverment and others that'll get picked up on socials and other contemporary meeja. Alternative policies be damned, her short term job is being a bit of a dick, and that'll come naturally.
First PMQ's shes gonna get asked if she thinks maternity pay is a step too far.
Second PMQ's she gonna get asked which civil servants should be in prison
etc
etc
etc
And then a little journalistic pressure applied and boom....
It's going to be all culture war, all the time with kemi in charge, yaaay!
She’s the worst orator I’ve ever heard.
To say that when Truss is still in the recent memory is a strong statement.
There are so many similarities between Badanoch and Truss though. Two peas in a pod...
1. Hugely inflated idea of their own abilities? Check!
2. Planet-sized sense of 'born to rule' entitlement? Check!
3. Opinions that drift ever-further rightward by the day? Check!
4. Sociopathic/psychopathic absense of even the slightest shred of empathy, compassion or basic human decency? Bingo!
Those are all qualities which make you the darling of the Tory party membership, but I can't see them having a much wider appeal than that
First PMQ’s shes gonna get asked if she thinks maternity pay is a step too far.
Second PMQ’s she gonna get asked which civil servants should be in prison
Her latest brain-fart is that we should all be working 6 days a week
There are so many similarities between Badanoch and Truss though.
There's a reason for that.....
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/11/14/kemi-badenoch-carries-on-liz-truss-tufton-street-traditions/
Mrs Jenrick is terrifying
Dear god! Its like Ardman animation has made a pantomime baddie
Bobby J’s wife looking daggers………
No matter how I phrase this it’s going to sound wrong but she looks like the Price Regent (Hugh Laurie) in Blackadder 3
Good news for the new leader of the Tory Party :
Tories lead in polls for first time in three years after Budget – on Sunak’s last day
No matter how I phrase this it’s going to sound wrong but she looks like the Price Regent (Hugh Laurie) in Blackadder 3
I'm more inclined to Binners Aardman villainess. The one who had the bakery?
Just to rehash what I said earlier in this thread:
Heard on the radio this morning, “if Kemi Badenoch gets elected then every labour MP will have to register it as a gift”.
Tee-hee
I think she’ll be quite good*
* and by good I mean she’ll come up with plenty of mean things to say about the goverment and others that’ll get picked up on socials and other contemporary meeja. Alternative policies be damned, her short term job is being a bit of a dick, and that’ll come naturally.
I think you might have a point there.
The job of a Tory leader in opposition is basically to act as a General in the culture wars, directing their Tufton St army to stoke Division, point out problems (real or imagined) and offer solutions as wildly impractical and expensive as they like, essentially what their predecessors have done, but unencumbered by the bothersome issue of being the one supposed to be governing...
It certainly would have suited truss, Bozza would have thrived being unaccountable and getting to showboat at the dispatch box too. Kemi's going to be like a pig in shit if she gets the gig, not so sure about Generic Bob...
