[Closed] The Budget

Given this is only showing up the lack of fundamental differences between Labour and the Conservatives, does that make the SNP Her Majesty's Official Opposition?

To be fair to him Ed Milliband is tearing him a new one. Also, Osborne looks out of it.

To be fair to him Ed Milliband is tearing him a new one. Also, Osborne looks out of it.

You should be sat on the Labour benches as they don't seem too impressed with their leader.

To be fair to him Ed Milliband is tearing him a new one. Also, Osborne looks out of it.

*nods*

Edit: He did lose his way a bit in the middle though.

Its all good for us on the M4 corridor. Cheaper riding to Wales with the Severn Bridge toll being scrapped.................. in 2018 🙄

[url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/budget-to-focus-on-growth-jobs-and-old-greedy-bastards-tempted-to-vote-ukip-2015031896407 ]The Mash nails it![/url]

the two eds seem a bit lost.. same old record left playing for the last 5 years.. wont work isnt working not fair... the records bust boys you need something new to keep us listening..

the two eds seem a bit lost..

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To paraphrase Malcolm Tucker, they probably had trouble getting the grand piano up the stairs

Some rather good puns in there - Agincourt, two brothers, two kitchens from one mobile app etc 😆

I did laugh at the 2 kitchens internet of things gag

Tax free savings is hardly a give away, with interest rates so low and £15k ISA allowance, I'd be amazed if anyone has any actual interest to declare other than 39p on their current account.

[i]To be fair to him Ed Milliband is tearing him a new one[/i]

Lol!

So. I'm a little bit better off, if I vote for and the party with a visible track record of reducing the defecit and decreasing joblessness vs those that caused it & the racists?

Seems all to obvious. What have I missed?

an understanding of confirmation bias and some basic facts?
or do you mean the Lib dems seeing its a coalition govt

I am sick of saying this but Labour did not cause the sub prime market to crash in the US nor cause the subsequent global turn down that affected all the worlds economies.

GO missed all his targets, blamed the EU and then when it was impriving claimed it as a success.

Nothing I suppose if all you care about is yourself.

Nothing I suppose if all you care about is yourself

And, TBH, isn't that what the majority do...?

What have I missed?

20% reduction in tax free pension allowance, that will cost me in the next 10-20 years or so....

isn't that what the majority do...?

Sadly yes.

isn't that what the majority do...?

That Mash article is very funny and so accurate

Seems all [b]to[/b] obvious. What have I missed?

An 'o' perhaps?.

Oh FFS. I thought it was all about an age of austerity in an effort to get the deficit down and reduce national debt.

A bit of spare cash and an election coming up and its all poncing about with stuff like a penny off beer duty.

Nice to know we've all been suffering these past few years so the likes of Kryton57 gets some pre election bribes.

So. I'm a little bit better off, if I vote for and the party with a visible track record of reducing the defecit and decreasing joblessness vs those that caused it & the racists?

So you've already decided not to vote for [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/where-can-i-go-to-get-an-unbiased-summary-of-the-political-manifestos#post-6754522 ]the party whose actual policies you agree with?[/url]

chambord - Member
Nothing I suppose if all you care about is yourself.

I'm supposed to be selfless and vote for the benefit of others? Who would you suggest? The EDL would quite like Farage, but I wouldn't, so why would I do that?

I'd agree with voting for the best outcome for the country, but I've a family to support so if doing that made me personally troubled why would I? Seems daft.

*Note: I don't really do politics so please bear with my stupidity on this subject if you would.

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Nice to know we've all been suffering these past few years so the likes of Kryton57 gets some pre election bribes.

You too can benefit. Get supping ale.

I vote for whoever I think makes the UK a nicer place to live in the whole. So it won't be the Tories, or UKIP/BNP.

Oh FFS. I thought it was all about an age of austerity in an effort to get the deficit down and reduce national debt.

A bit of spare cash and an election coming up and its all poncing about with stuff like a penny off beer duty.

As an 'umble common peasant, I'm delighted, and will be voting accordingly

*doffs cap to good Sir George*

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Hmm. I really need that one stop shop manifesto website to have a read of...

I'd agree with voting for the best outcome for the country, but I've a family to support so if doing that made me personally troubled why would I? Seems daft.

Its also seems daft that you wont vote for the party you most agree with whilst telling us you agree with voting for the best interests of the conutry whilst telling us you wont.

Hmm. I really need that one stop shop manifesto website to have a read of...

Nah, you'll just ignore that too.

Anyway, I for one am delighted that drinking the maximum recommended amount of beer all next year I will save over £5! I might switch to cider to make it up to a tenner.

You know how Nicola Sturgeon was taking the piss out of Westminster budgets? Silly way to run a country, this.

Never understand the fuss about budgets - merely an exercise in taking away from some and giving to others. So the headlines are made by the pundits and the lobbyists reflecting their interests. Meanwhile we get on with life as per...

At least in the budget statement, GO has to be straight(er) with his comments...

Five years ago, the deficit was out of control. Today, [b]as a share of national income [/b]it is down by more than a half.

I wish he was always that precise.

Oh FFS. I thought it was all about an age of austerity in an effort to get the deficit down and reduce national debt.

Reduce the debt? Hmmm.....not even close to doing that. A deficit of any sort increases the level of debt. An actual reduction requires full financial repression (stealing from savers) and that has only been going on for a wee while now. Go relaxed austerity a while back too.

Thrustyjust - Member

Its all good for us on the M4 corridor. Cheaper riding to Wales with the Severn Bridge toll being scrapped.................. in 2018

I may be wrong, but I'm sure that's been on the cards since they built the 'new' bridge in the 90's - the people who built it had 20 years to collection the toll and we allowed to raise the charge a certain percentage a year.

Must be a bloody hard life for you poor wretches on the M4 corridor if all you've got to worry about is the toll on the bridge you drive your Audi across, while heading for ones weekend in the country 😆

#firstworldproblems

Must be a bloody hard life for you poor wretches on the M4 corridor if all you've got to worry about is the toll on the bridge you drive your Audi across, while heading for ones weekend in the country

You understand that South Wales has some of the most deprived areas in the UK, and the bridge toll puts off companies coming into the area due to increased costs.

The Welsh can go home for free soon then ? May affect the immigration figures for England .Farage will be pleased

You understand that South Wales has some of the most deprived areas in the UK, and the bridge toll puts off companies coming into the area due to increased costs.

The post didn't suggest an overly concerned tone about the plight of deprived Welsh areas. which was sort of my point

[i]I am sick of saying this but Labour did not cause the sub prime market to crash in the US nor cause the subsequent global turn down that affected all the worlds economies.[/i]

No, but (in a nutshell)they so over extended the UK, that as soon as something happened, we were doomed! Its like someone in a high paid job planning on doing it for the next 20 years with no fear of anything going wrong and making allowances for it.

(loving Junky's error strewn posts btw...you can just picture him red faced and hammering away at the keyboard! lol)

Nah, you'll just ignore that too.

Why are you sniping at me over that website, when you hinted later that it was loaded? Or did I misunderstand?

You understand that South Wales has some of the most deprived areas in the UK, and the bridge toll puts off companies coming into the area due to increased costs.

Also puts off tourists.

No one in this country was warning of impending doom and GO agreed to match labour spending for example so the tories would have equally over extended us. Its also highly unlikely the conservative would have favoured a higher regulatory approach to the financial institutions than labour or redressed our reliance on it.

I find myself in broad agreement that capitalists/politicians/the people forgot that its history is boom and bust and no one prepared for the inevitable and debt was rife. However that charge is equally true of every country and every politician and most people. We would not have escaped economic downturn no matter who was in power so it was not really the govts fault....remember GO blaming the EU for why he was failing for example.
FWIW the last labour govts ran at a surplus more often than the previous tory ones starting with thatcher [ its only 2 v 4 years mind]

you can just picture him red faced and hammering away at the keyboard! lol)

no need to play the man so can we just stick to the issue?

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We would not have escaped economic downturn no matter who was in power so it was not really the govts fault

It's quite simple I think, the labour party like spending money, so people vote for them when there is money to spend. The tories like saving money (or at least pretending they do), so people vote for them when it needs to be saved. That's about it isn't it?

I agree though, the revisionism about the causes of the crash and the deficit is quite amazing. Along with fighting wars again and again, it makes me laugh whenever I hear the phrase 'learning the lessons of history'.

Both main parties absolutely love spaffing thecash about. Just on completely different things.

Well... that used to be the case. now, like with most other things, they both look remarkably similar nowadays. Indistinguishable in most cases.

This thread needs ernies insights here tbh as he covers it far better than i can. Whilst I agree that this is the common perception , though Labour also had the misfortune to be in power when the Oil price quadrupled and the crash of 2008 hit, I think the reality is somewhat different
Remember GO agreed to match Labour prior to the cash so there was no real difference then and have the Tories not just done basically what Labour said - ie the speed of deficit reduction has been slower than they said they would do it and at what labour proposed [ may be wrong on that ], Even now they are broadly similar in deficit reduction

THM says similar about reagonomics and how they talk one way but dont necessarily do it.
Probably best ernie or THM seperate the spin from the reality.