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I haven’t used the word “implied” anywhere there.
Are you sure about that?
Absolutely. Nowhere in the bit that you deliberately copied and pasted had I used the word "implied", you were clearly referring to that quote, which is why I said "anywhere there"
You accused me of using the wrong word after you used the wrong quote.
And whilst it might be amusing for David Mitchell to make the distinction between implied and inferred on 'Would I Lie To You' I don't need you to tell me that you know the difference.
I don’t think it’s about racism, rather it’s a casual dismissal of the importance of national identity.
So if it is not about racism why did you mention "racism"? FFS
And I still don't have the slightest idea what the actual **** you are on about. I cannot for the life of me see how not referring to Britian as a "kingdom" is a casual dismissal of the importance of national identity.
St. Helena? Ascension Island? Hell, the Falklands,
That's a new one on me. I have never heard those islands being described as part of of GB or the UK, do they send MPs to the Westminster Parliament?
I have to say Cougar you are without doubt one of the most argumentative persons on stw, I find it quite astonishing that you repeatedly suggest that I want "fuel an arguement", as you did earlier.
I don’t think it’s about racism, rather it’s a casual dismissal of the importance of national identity. England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, the RoI, Ireland, Britain, Great Britain, the British Isles, the UK, British Overseas Territories, Crown Dependencies, all of these are different things.
Thing is our passports have both the term 'United Kingdom' and 'Great Britain' on the front which kind of implies that the terms are a bit interchangeable (plus there's a special mention for Northern Ireland).
Should we be upset by that or not?
Or is this all a bunch of pointless circular argumentative toss because some people like to get a bit Gamony when people in "the Regions" dare to exert a small bit of their own identity...
Go to a bar in Belfast, tell them that they’re actually in Great Britain, report back here how that works out for you
This is not a good test. Making the kind of pernickety, smartarsed, snippy comments that are common on this forum irl would get you a biff in many pubs. You're trying to make a point about Ascension Islanders being marginalised because people don't think about them in the British Olympic team, for example.
Thing is our passports have both the term ‘United Kingdom’ and ‘Great Britain’ on the front which kind of implies that the terms are a bit interchangeable
UK = Great Britain
Great Britain != UK
They are absolutely not interchangeable.
I have to say Cougar you are without doubt one of the most argumentative persons on stw
I live in the BBNP, not far from Crickhowell. I don't recall this matter even coming up in my local at the time.
Hi squirrelking...... you think it is legitimate for Cougar to accuse someone else on STW of being argumentative? 😂
Nowhere in the bit that you deliberately copied and pasted had I used the word “implied”, you were clearly referring to that quote, which is why I said “anywhere there”
You accused me of using the wrong word after you used the wrong quote.
Oh come on. I've been quoting as minimally as possible in order to avoid unnecessary duplication whilst pinning a reference back to who/what I'm replying to for well over a decade on STW. Are you genuinely telling me that you need reminding of everything you've ever said every time we post?
And I still don’t have the slightest idea what the actual **** you are on about. I cannot for the life of me see how not referring to Britian as a “kingdom” is a casual dismissal of the importance of national identity.
Again, that's not what I said. Do I need to start quoting myself in full as well as you?
What I'm on about, on a thread about calling things by their correct names, is calling things by their correct names. Why this is seemingly proving to be a problematic concept for you, I do not know.
I have to say Cougar you are without doubt one of the most argumentative persons on stw
No I'm not. 😁
Sorry if you feel I'm challenging your crown.
You’re trying to make a point about Ascension Islanders being marginalised because people don’t think about them in the British Olympic team, for example.
In my defence, it was a random place that popped to mind as an example, it was gone 2am when I posted that.
Just to clarify what the Olympic team should be called, it should be:
Team Great Britain, some of Northern Ireland, the Crown Dependencies, and the Overseas Territories except Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands, and the Cayman Islands.
Apologies in advance to the countries I have inevitably missed due to overlooking some treaty signed in 1147.
If you're going to be pedantic, and I think you are, Team GB covers all of Northern Ireland, but not exclusively.
If you’re going to be pedantic, and I think you are, Team GB covers all of Northern Ireland, but not exclusively.
Team Great Britain, all of Northern Ireland but not exclusively, the Crown Dependencies, and the Overseas Territories except Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands, and the Cayman Islands
Yeah, that definitely scans better.
The Brecon Beacons name thread is closed to new replies – BUT WHY?
Suppose this one will get closed now, having not been about the OP since page one. Does nobody get banned anymore for wilfully and repeatedly dragging threads so far off topic?
Does nobody get banned anymore for wilfully and repeatedly dragging threads so far off topic?
I didn't think anyone ever had been banned for that.
No individual can drag a thread off topic. They post something which has nothing to do with the thread's subject matter but they can't force anyone else to do the same.
Being wilfully disruptive after being asked to stop is (was?) a temporary ban offence. Thread drift is an inherent feature of discussion forums, so long as it doesn't 'cancel' the actual topic. IMHO, etc.
Bans are usually a last resort.
Can't help thinking chevy is sipping a cocktail on a beach somewhere laughing at the chaos he's caused on this thread.
Thread drift doing a lot of heavy lifting there 😉 this one's drifted 300 mile from Powys to Belfast!
this one’s drifted 300 mile from Powys to Belfast!
That was just the first leg, it's gone all the way to Ascension Island
Can’t help thinking chevy is sipping a cocktail on a beach somewhere laughing at the chaos he’s caused on this thread.
I must admit, I'm pleased that this descent into idiocy has proven Einstein right - that nationalism is an infantile disease.
I'll absolutely casually dismiss the importance of national identity and go further. I posit that there's a direct and positive correlation between the importance someone places on their national identity and how much of a knuckle-dragging (edited) they are.
🙂
I must admit, I’m pleased that this descent into idiocy has proven Einstein right – that nationalism is an infantile disease.
Except your own nationalism, that's obviously good and sensible.
I’ll absolutely casually dismiss the importance of national identity
What about cultural identity? There's more involved here than simply my country's better than yours.
Except your own nationalism, that’s obviously good and sensible.
Aye, those are the rules. British nationalism is not nationalism.
It's a rosy-cheeked and healthy patriotism that's simply about being proud of your heritage.
It's about celebrating inherent superiority and all the good things the British Empire has done.
It's about those shared values of free-markets, militarism and monarchy.
It's insulting to compare these people to Welsh nationalist crazies using a Welsh place name for a Welsh place.
Except your own nationalism, that’s obviously good and sensible.
What nationalism is that @brucewee? Pray tell me about myself.
Every day is a learning opportunity after all. 🙂
Edit. I see that your offensive post, any my reply which quoted your offensive post have been removed. Thanks mods.
You're a British nationalist. You started this thread because you felt your British identity was being threatened.
Christ, is this thread still going?
It's in Wales so thay can call it whatever they want.
I've found something more interesting to argue about...
Which is correct?
Exhibit A?
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Or Exhibit B?
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You’re a British nationalist. You started this thread because you felt your British identity was being threatened.
Erm no?
I started this thread because I think it's important that some people feel disenfranchised by the name of the national park they live in being changed, without their consultation, because of the actions of people whom I consider to be asshat nationalists.
In no way is my identitiy threatened by anything here. Because I don't pin my identity to people, place or things.
If you disagree, I'd love for you to show me how I'm wrong...
I started this thread because I think it’s important that some people feel disenfranchised by the name of the national park
Aye, they're people like you. They're called British nationalists.
my post wasn’t “offensive” – you took offence.
Isn't that the classic tory defence when they do something horrible?
I started this thread because I think it’s important that
some peopleBritish nationalists feel disenfranchised by the name of the national park they live in being changed, without their consultation, because of the actions of people whom I consider to be asshat nationalists.
Yes, it's very common for nationalists of all types to react angrily to other nationalists because often they feel their conflict is a zero sum game where one side has to lose for the other to win.
Instead of trying to empathise or understand the other side they call them names because their cause is not logical. It's purely emotional.
You are not arguing logically. You are simply reacting emotionally.
Because when it comes down to it, you are a nationalist.
I’d love for you to show me how I’m wrong
@brucewee don't bother your arse with this, it's pointless.
you’re not bothered to engage in an actual intellectual to-and-fro on the subject.
Are you equipped to engage in an actual intellectual to-and-fro, tho?
Carlin's motif was punching up against the Catholic Church, advertising, the military-industrial complex. That routine (not one of his best) is a blend of Orwell's Politics and the English Language, Mad Magazine jokes, and listicles from Reader's Digest (the original Buzzfeed).
What evidently eludes you is that the common theme to all of that insight is speaking truth to power, stripping away pretty words to hide ugly things. It's not using slurs and insults that objectify people with disabilities and differences. That's just being a rude dickhead. You're not George Carlin, you're Ricky Gervais.