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The Berlin wall did not divide East from West Germany. Wow !!!

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Brutal treatment of a population and no wonder it failed.

Yeah, when your ideology is more important to you that the well being of the humans that have to live it, its not going to last that long.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 2:34 pm
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I should be working but...... for you amateur historians and cycle tourists there is a cycle trail in Germany that follows the course of the old iron curtain border separating West and East Germany

https://germanyiswunderbar.com/eastern-germany/germany-holidays-the-iron-curtain-trail/

and it is part of a much longer trail that traces the entirety of the iron curtain from north Finland to the Black Sea

https://en.eurovelo.com/ev13


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 3:04 pm
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Yeah, not a route that anyone half-sensible is going to do now or in the near future.

Tim Moore rode it and did a book 


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 3:07 pm
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for you amateur historians and cycle tourists there is a cycle trail in Germany that follows the course of the old iron curtain border separating West and East

In Germany it's known as the Grüne Streife, the Green Strip, since wildlife was able to flourish there.

I lived for a while a few km from the border when the GF was studying in Coburg (as in Prince Albert's old manor). Ride through the woods towards Thüringen and you'd come across an opening with concrete tracks.

Locals in Bavaria used to throw bananas across the fence towards the guards in the east.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 3:25 pm
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Locals in Bavaria used to throw bananas across the fence towards the guards in the east

My sister said that she used to dream about bananas during her year in E Berlin. Nothing much in the shops to buy at all.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 3:44 pm
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"Turns out its mostly folks complaining about the weather, the cold, the locals, and lack of socks…"

The STW of it's day


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 4:56 pm
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The Documentary " Turning point" has a good section on East Germany, It gives more of a perspective from the inside.


 
Posted : 17/05/2024 11:01 pm
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This is actually quite surprising to me, not the facts but that so many folk older than me don't know.

I remember the wall falling in 1989 and Blue Peter showing off a brick they got a hold of. I was 6 at the time.

I'm pretty sure we covered that in higher Modern Studies (as well as apartheid and the new Scottish Parliament) but if not I was at a forces school later on, there were a lot of kids who had lived in Germany so it was pretty relevant.

Antonine Wall is still there, I'd recommend avoiding the Antonine Centre in Cumbernauld though. You can still see bits of it but as said it's more earthworks than anything else. Would probably be a good C2C walk though.


 
Posted : 18/05/2024 11:40 am
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Or better yet, enter the Falkirk CX round and race over and around the Wall (I never understood this - council built flats pretty much on the wall, and before then there was a canal that went through it, but for years there was real issues with doing anything on the wall...now, there are holding very successful CX races using it.
I say using it, the race course crosses it in places, nothing is done other than tape to direct the racers.


 
Posted : 18/05/2024 1:23 pm
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The STW of it’s day

What sandals for British mud?


 
Posted : 18/05/2024 3:02 pm
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apparently there is a fair few ‘Thor sh*gg*d Frida here’ type messages.

Frida is a corruption of Frigg I think. Hmm.

It was an expanse of cleared forest area, with at least double wire fences with minefields in between and watch towers with armed guards.

Oh, oh, is this where the deer are?


 
Posted : 18/05/2024 8:47 pm
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Ich hab' immer "todesstreifen" gehört, Alpin.


 
Posted : 18/05/2024 9:24 pm
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But did Adolf escape the fuhrerbunker via platz d luftbrucke through to templehof airport ??


 
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