Strange that some people are happy to post intimate details of their private lives on a public forum but are offended pretty pictures of adequately dressed people paid to pose for pretty pictures.
I certainly have problems with some sort of aesthetic us blokes are meant to achive. I've got enough about me to know and realise those images are impossible unattainable images though. And that's that, just do healthy stuff like cycling. bollocks to some sort of image(or job/life) you are supposed to attain. get a grip! Same for women!
This is nothing. A (female) friend put an article on FB regarding a procedure known as 'The Barbie'.
A misandrist feminist took vast (and lengthy) offence that I had an opinion, given that as a man I am, by extension, a rapist (there is a whole realm of this stuff out there believe me).
Apart from providing me with some entertainment it has also confirmed my support of Stephen Fry's views on being offended;
'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so ****ing what?' —Stephen Fry
What annoys me about threads like that is that they pretend to be about liking a particular female performer
The kylie (recent) thread wasn't about her music at all.
[B]And nobody was pretending it was either. [/b]
Otherwise there would have been links to Audio files or YouTube videos of performances.
But there wasnt, just loads of photos.
Perv by all means, but at least be honest about it.
Seemed perfectly honest to me.
Nothing to be annoyed about then eh ?
Not that I really understand the logic in saying its fine to perv over women and objectify them as long as you own up to it.
But getting annoyed if people pretend they are just interested in the songs or whatever.
It's either wrong to objectify women, or it isn't.
Being honest about it shouldn't make any difference.
The kylie (recent) thread wasn't about her music at all.
Well there's one.
Not bad so far.
The sexualisation and objectifying of women in the media.
Religion.
Hand wringing political correctness.
Lady garden cosmetic surgery.
Not bad, STW, not bad.
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I get adverts for mountain biking holidays, sheds, cameras and Kindles. No ladies...
Mrs Toast - Member
I get adverts for mountain biking holidays, sheds, cameras and Kindles. No ladies...
All I get is sheds. WTF?
Read the quote and think about it...bigblackshed - Member
All I get is sheds. WTF?
Lets all get offended about everything! Yay
getonyourbike - MemberRead the quote and think about it...
Do I need a 😉 ?
Yes.bigblackshed - Member
getonyourbike - Member
Read the quote and think about it...Do I need a ?
Sorry to digress, but an earlier poster mentioned the 7 foods (or is it 5?) advert. I clicked on it once and got to three (eventually) but got bored. So after concentrated fruit juice, bread and margarine.....what's next?
Just wiggle and sheds for me at the moment. V dull!!
have no problem with nudity I have issues with the 'use' of women in advertising and the use of images of us in society
So I take it you will not be coming on the STW forum again in protest at the proliferation of ads that appear that fall into the categories you describe?
*Goes back to looking for the "Sexy Stomach Ad". Still haven't seen it. Will I be offended?
There's a lot of bollocks being talked on this thread and not by emsz.
So I take it you will not be coming on the STW forum again in protest at the proliferation of ads that appear that fall into the categories you describe?
I would have thought the best course of action would be to report the ad, rather than just avoiding the problem. No?
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I don't see a problem with men admiring women, women admiring men, or for that matter men admiring men and women admiring women, if they're so disposed, and discussing it in a civil manner. It's all perfectly natural.
What I think is unacceptable is a big bunch of blokes all braying "waay, look at the knockers on that, she can grease my pole anytime" and other such Wildean witticisms. It's uncomfortable, and it's not a million miles removed from bullying.
So yes, there's a degree of "stop being offended" certainly, but that doesn't give us all carte blanche to act like inconsiderate pricks.
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There's a lot of bollocks being talked on this thread and not by emsz.
You could be making a valid point.
But you are being so vague, it difficult to say.
I'm not being vague at all. I would have thought my point was obvious. I cannot be ****ed to expand on something that a teenager should understand, let alone middle aged men.
Oh, and,
It's a fine line, swimwear...lap dance... Sex industry
Sorry Emsz, but that's not fair. The same argument reversed reads swimwear... one-piece... ankle-length dresses... burkha.
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope
would have thought the best course of action would be to report the ad, rather than just avoiding the problem. No?
Indeed so presumably emsz and whoever feels strongly about it has.
Funny though these type of ads have been on here for ages.No idea how STW ad. selling space works but if emsz feels so strongly about hypocrisy she should address her concerns to STW towers who appear to be the ones benefitting from these,in her opinion(and several others no doubt), inappropriate ads.
I do recollect one of the mods mentioning trying to do something about it in another thread btw.
.I'm not being vague at all. I would have thought my point was obvious. I cannot be **** to expand on something that a teenager should understand, let alone middle aged men
Your point is that you disagree with someone or some people ?
We know one person,who isn't one of those people.
Not vague at all no.
It's entirely up to the mods, of course, because this is their space, but the world needs another forum with t&a threads like the classifieds forums needs more Paypal gift payments...
Otherwise, +1 on what emsz said.
Although objectifying women isn't cool, but whatever.
Talking about bikes on the internet with strangers is probably seen as a lot less cool by the majority of the population. I suggest we close the site down just to be safe.
I do find it odd that people advertise tee's on a site that is mainly inhabited by blokes using a girl with massive boobs, altho I admit that sometimes I do stare at it cos they are ridiculous. How do I know if the tee will fit me properly unless a bloke's modelling it?
I wondered what happened to that "talented and gorgeous to boot" thread?, as far as i could tell there was nowt wrong wi it in the slightest, no pictures of girls in their underwear, no posed pictures or overtly sexual comments that i could find - Fair enough.... if you were offended by it then don't look at it but to report it to the mods is taking the "I'm offended, ban it now" stance in my opinion. So you were offended?, bully for you!, I consider Stephen Fry has the correct response for this situation which has been posted earlier in this thread but i'm not going to repeat it for fear of getting reported 🙄 and finally? ...in what way was the entire thread about "perving" or "tits", not one person made a comment regarding "tits" of any kind, many posts regarding fantastic singer etc but not one making reference to breasts or an arse.
Get over it,
I am trying to reconcile the deleting of posts/threads that include pictures of women with the constant adverts on here that are blatantly using women to sell things. Provocative pictures to market menswear is encouraged, it would seem. Not the most consistent policy?
So has no-one else managed to listen to the whole foods you shouldn't eat thread? Damn, I will have to endure the whole thing!
I am trying to reconcile the deleting of posts/threads that include pictures of women with the constant adverts on here that are blatantly using women to sell things. Provocative pictures to market menswear is encouraged, it would seem. Not the most consistent policy?
The consistency of the policy is probably fairly sturdy.
If you want to post pictures of a scantily clad woman, feel free to pay for it as an advert, and then start a thread without the picture included but mention that is what the thread is about 🙂
Money talks 😉
STW has limited control on what adverts appear some are based on a users history which is why when I log out I see sheds and other boring offers, however if anyone finds them offensive then please report them and the name of the company to us and we will look into it.
STW has limited control on what adverts appear
But presumably is ultimately responsible for them? I thought this was the line usually trotted out for controversial posts on the forum being deleted.
I find all the shed adverts I get shown offensive to be honest.
Am I really that bloody boring that even [b]the Internet[/b] doesn't want to show me some lady bits !!!!
STW has limited control on what adverts appear
Assuming that someone sat in a meeting then signed a contract, I would say that while there is no control over the ads that appear there is a responsibility and acceptance that this lack of control could cause problems.
Assuming that someone sat in a meeting then signed a contract, I would say that while there is no control over the ads that appear there is a responsibility and acceptance that this lack of control could cause problems.
We ask for them to be reported if anyone spots any problems as it's often the fastest way as the forum is on 24/7 where as staff don't work 24/7. They're has been blocked adverts before and there will again. If there was a lack of control there'd be far worse ones I'd have said.
I don't find them offensive particularly just a little odd/inconsistent. Compared with the male/female Pwoor threads on another (relatively conservative) sports website the moderation of photos on here seems strict IMO. But they are your rules and the (possible) inconsistency is only matching the same for society as a whole - much nicer to look at than sheds I agree!!!
Its a bit like religion - open playing field for all sorts of abuse on here that isn't tolerated with other topics. Including almost 1000 pages with an insulting title and OP!!! Again probably a fair reflection of society at large.
Any raises on concentrated juice, bread and margarine BTW?
Like probably every other person on the planet I wear and buy T shirts....but I don't buy, wear or even view knickers online.
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" if you were offended by it then don't look at it but to report it to the mods is taking the "I'm offended, ban it now" stance in my opinion. So you were offended?, bully for you!, I consider Stephen Fry has the correct response for this situation"
You're railing pretty hard at those people who are offended by the perv threads and who report them to the mods for that reason. Have we established that any such people actually exist?
It was a response to "emsz" as she reported the thread due to the fact she took offence to it.
Does this mean it is only ok to use pictures of women if I am trying to sell stuff? I have some stuff I need to sell soon.
[quote=konabunny said]You're railing pretty hard at those people who are offended by the perv threads and who report them to the mods for that reason. Have we established that any such people actually exist?
If you re-read this thread then you will find that such people do exist.
Does this mean it is only ok to use pictures of women if I am trying to sell stuff?
I'd say mandatory.
Probably explains why those sheds aren't shifting and keep getting reduced.
Does this mean it is only ok to use pictures of women if I am trying to sell stuff? I have some stuff I need to sell soon.
Only if you pay for the privilege. Then the overlords will have limited control...
Nick 😆
I'll make a Paypal donation if my stuff sells then. Any men or women want to volunteer to be exploited for my financial gain?
I am an equal opportunities offender and terms of employment will be equally bad regardless of your age, sex and religion if that sets your mind at ease.
I am an equal opportunities offender and terms of employment will be equally bad regardless of your age, sex and religion if that sets your mind at ease.
having posed in nothing but a tyre mankini and a dapper 'tache to raise lots of money for mens cancer charities, I have no issues with prostituting my self to earn you some cash. How do you want me, draped over a frame with a cheeky wink or holding a bar end and looking all manly and lustful?
Actually that means I may have been viewed as a sexytime object by pervy* men and women.....can i be offended now? 😕
* they would need to be very perverted to see me as a sexytime object 😆
