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Well it appears the unions have supported the Thatcherite government that has been in power for the last 12 years, the one that has done sweet FA to seriously improve social housing.
Labour, party of the people. My ar*e.
Labour, party of the people. My ar*e.
Agree 100%,they're nothing but Thatcherite muck. I've been saying it for years, and it seems that the general population is slowly catching up.
But back to the social housing issue. Thatcher's govt sold it off for a pittance in a one-off vote winning policy didn't they? And that action has had rather unfortunate repercussions for Hora's lower income families ever since, hasn't it? And the Thatcherite Govts since haven't replaced that provision, have they?
You have to admit, it was a pretty shortsighted and stupid policy.
But Labour supporters are as guilty of the mess we're currently in for supporting a rose-tinted version of the party they all hate.
Perhaps if the 'proper' Labour party members and MPs had made a bit more noise about the shower of sh*te that was/is New Labour and not accepted Tony Blair and his Thatcher-loving mates so readily in a desperate attempt to get some chimps in red ties into Downing Street, no matter what the cost, we might still have a socialist alternative choice and they may actually have been voted into power [b]and[/b] have made a real difference.
Instead, the usual idiots who will vote for anything with a red rosette on no matter what the policies, voted in another Conservative party. Although a less honest version, who prefer to wear the costume of a party that once actually gave a flying fu*k about the masses rather than their political donation giving big business mates.
Are Hora and Phil Collins related?
I still remember walking past Old Trafford (had to climb out of a cab home as we coincided with the end of a Genesis concert)- I was shouting & giggling 'oi here is Phil Collins missus' (pointing to my GF)- boy, she was happy 😆
Agree with all that S&J, although I doubt the Tories are inherently any more honest that the NuLab crew. I don't see anything to suggest that.
The question still stands though. My opinion is that selling off social housing was not in the best long term interest of the country and was a selfish one off event that was to the detrement of the country, simply to get votes for the next election. Do you agree?
is she dead yet?
Hora - there were companies going round encouraging people to buy their council houses and guaranteeing to buy the house of the purchaser for a profit. These house were then rented out to benefit claimants at the maximum possible housing benefit rate. Thus people who would have been in council houses at a cheap rent paid by the council end up in the same house at a much greater rent that is paid by the council after the council have been forced to sell the house for less than its worth.
Much of Edinburghs less popular housing stock is now owned and rented like this
Not yet, headfirst. But come on; we want a build-up to the great event, surely? Weeks/months of pain and suffering, allowing betting shops to make a fortune from offering odds on the exact date of her passing. Come on; she'd love that, surely? Entrepreneurial spirit, and all that?
PS: I actually don't care if any Thatcherites think me a C for wishing pain and suffering on her. Go and argue that with the families of Argentinian sailors killed on the Belgrano, or with ex-miners...
Who is this Thatcher you all talk about, an evil twisted bitch,who hated men, abused her power,stole money off the poor,and gave it to her rich freinds,destroyed the working classes, and the unions,etc,etc.
Enough of the ex wife.
Now who was Thatcher.
Rudeboy - the suffering has been going on for a while - she has multi infarct dementia - a nasty nasty disease. that she is dying slowly of.
TJ; The flat I rent is ex-council. My rent is 2.5 times what the council rent is. My neighbours who are council tenants are shocked at what I pay.
Oh look, an evil fascist dictator! And General Augusto Pinochet...
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Dr Dolittle - MemberHow is your sister bye the way?
She's fine. Ten years of counselling and she reckons she's forgiven you.
Did your Ma get my card? I left it in her box, but neglected to lick her stamp properly.
She's fine thanks - you gotta spade?
as a fairly dispassionate observer of the Rudeboy vs Hora spat I'd just like to say that Mr Rudeboy comes over as a slighty hysterical SWP magazine waver which tends to colour the appreciation of his sub tabloid type argument. Just an observation of course....
As regards Thatcher - isn't it time that all y'all (as we say here in Texas) got over her - it was some time ago......
"destroyed the working classes, and the unions"
The Unions feel like they are the present when really, they are part of the historical makeup of moving on our social makeup.
She's fine thanks - you gotta spade?
Not [i]again[/i]...
😆 You eevall!
You still up this way at the end of the month?
Seriously, back off. I've got her back. Anyone as a young boy, watching the Falklands Conflict on TV, nay following the conflict and then later understanding her quandry why she had to- and sadly the Belgrano. Come on. read abit more into history and not wikipedia.
The Unions feel like they are the present when really, they are part of the historical makeup of moving on our social makeup.
Hey, you've won. Reading that I feel stupid, as stupid as the village idiot...
I can agree with the Falklands campaign, we were all behind Maggie - but how could you have ever supported Iraq or Afghanistan? WTF was that all about? Heroes led by donkeys....
At this point let me say this......Lindemans Vintage 2007 is sheeeeiiit!
Dinner guests just left with 3month old- they have a late night feed (11 apperently)- sooo Rum/Jagermeiser and...
Pinochet's mate - agree with the tag. Thats hard to swallow. Agree.
Aye TS, getting some accom sorted (well my secretary is). I'll give you a shout during the week to arrange something.
Cool! Be good to hear a 'homeland' voice rather than taffies or limeys'
Tankslapper - speak for yourself. I was certainly not behind Maccie on the flaklands as a pacifist and internationalist.
TJ
You are welcome to your opinions but at the end of the day everyone else was behind her...
at the end of the day everyone else was behind her...
Poor Denis. I feel for the man.
(ok, bedtime.)
everyone else? I knew a lot who weren't
.........and I knew a lot who were, so what's your point caller?
You said everyone was behind her. They weren't. A lot of folk were horrified . You are wrong. Again 🙂
Just being as pedantic with you as you are with me. 🙂
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A great leader (unlike the policy-lite drongos we have to put up with these days). More integrity in her little finger that the rest of parliament put together these days (and a mean downhiller in her prime I'm told)
Hope she gets the state funeral she deserves.
as my grandad (RiP) used to say...
"thatcher,thatcher, quick as a fox,if you can catch her,put her in a box"
i often wondered what this rhyme meant.
at the end of the day everyone else was behind her...
Were they? I know shit loads of people that weren't.
as a fairly dispassionate observer of the Rudeboy vs Hora spat I'd just like to say that Mr Rudeboy comes over as a slighty hysterical SWP magazine waver which tends to colour the appreciation of his sub tabloid type argument. Just an observation of course....As regards Thatcher - isn't it time that all y'all (as we say here in Texas) got over her - it was some time ago......
Ah, Texas....
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...that bastion of free-thinking and open mindedness.
As for Hora; well, by his own admission, he was not old enough to really remember much about Thatcher's reign, so I'll let him off. He's also a bit, well, you know...
Forgive him; for he knoweth bugger all about what he spouteth...
Who were behind her? Thw Sun. Mail, Express and all the thickos who voted BNP?
Dont count me in with your "all" thanks
A country divided then guys - unless your all from good 'ol london town - and no thanks to the BNP - Nick Griffin is a neighbour, any closer and I'd petrol bomb the basssstard
In fairness I can understand where you come from but try to understand where I come from
hora - Member
Come on. read abit more into history and not wikipedia.
LOL!
You should have your own stand-up show, Hora!
You are welcome to your opinions but at the end of the day everyone else was behind her...
Y? is that cos they were riding single(party)speeds?
Who were behind her?
Quite a lot of people I guess - that's how you get elected
in a a democracy....
Tankslapper - I have no issue with folk who have opinions I disagree with if they can give a rational argument for them and they base them on facts. Ignorant opinions picked up fro the rightwing media on the other hand drive me crackers.
TJ
What about opinions from a different place where your friends are being bumped of and there seems no end to it until Thatcher stepped in? I agree if I had been an Englishman then I would probably share your hatred of the woman - but when a friend is targeted for assasination for doing a days work and Maggie sent the SAS when no one else would then respect.
Alternative Ulster...Alternative Ulster....
Oy vey... 😯
Ave Margatrita?
Im getting ready to play my wizard of oz song
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Ding Dong the witch is dead. 😈
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I've no respect for her, and those failed policies along with the destruction of our industries,has everyone forgotten just what made in Britain stood for.