[Closed] Terrorism

Have to admit, I'm very skeptical when it comes to firearms, however, I'm happy to concede that some experts will know better than me... The suggestion that cuts in number of officers leads to paramilitary style policing seems to ring true, and I can see how a proactive presence in the community is more positive than a reactive one:

As for overall solutions, I think it's fair to say we all have a simple and straightforward opportunity tomorrow:

[url= https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/05/martyn-hett-killed-terrorist-saudis-terror-regime?CMP=share_btn_fb ]My friend, Martyn Hett, was killed by a terrorist. Here's the response I want[/url]

'there is a story that’s not being told, touched upon briefly by Caroline Lucas in Wednesday’s televised general election debate. As Lucas underlined, the UK is the world’s second biggest arms dealer, and delivers its bombs and guns to 22 of the 30 countries on our government’s own human rights watch list.'

So what does all this have to do with the callous murder of 22 people in Manchester last week? Well, it requires us to look into the ideology that drove that sorry man to commit such an act. The Saudi-sponsored brand of Islam known as Wahhabism is widely considered to be the source of much extremist thought.

[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-party-british-weapons-sales-saudi-arabia-jeremy-corbyn-yemen-war-bae-systems-cluster-bombs-a7709076.html ]Labour will block the sale of weapons to repressive regimes if it wins the election[/url]

I'm not meaning for this to be a political post as such, more of a genuine and accessible solution...

I recommend reading 'Answering Jihad: A better way forward' by ex-Muslim, now Christian Apologist Nabeel Qureshi. He gives an insight into Jihad and how it relates to ISIS and Islamic terrorism today.

I don't know what the answer is, but removing our privacy and arming all the police is not the way forward in my opinion.

Thanks jhj, interesting post. The video clip is illuminating

In response to Pimp, about half the policiers municipaux are armed. Google will get you a more accurate estimate.

Never in all my born days would I have expected JHJ to post a link to a James O'Brien video. There's hope for you yet, sunshine. (-:

[url= http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2017/06/06/normal-beats-terror/ ]Interesting perspective from ex NI native[/url]

Good contribution from jhj.

If you havent seen it this is excellent

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02gyz6b

Terrorist attack in Iran..... will they get a benefit concert within two weeks and the whole western world changing there FB profile pic to an Iranian flag?

Just saying.

trailwagger - Member

Terrorist attack in Iran..... will they get a benefit concert within two weeks and the whole western world changing there FB profile pic to an Iranian flag?

Just saying.

Do people in Iran have the same level of empathy for Europeans when they are attacked as Europeans do for each other, or is there a similar disassociation?

Do people in Iran have the same level of empathy for Europeans when they are attacked as Europeans do for each other, or is there a similar disassociation?

I have no idea, but does that matter? shouldnt we love all nationalities and races, and not just the ones who are culturally similar to ourselves?

Another stabbing reported. 3 women shouting Allah stabed a nursery worker.

trailwagger

I have no idea, but does that matter?

It doesn't matter as to whether we should or shouldn't feel empathy, of course we should, ideally. But it's relevant if we can't and they can't because of how our societies function and how our minds work. It's human nature to be more concerned with things closer to home.

It doesn't matter as to whether we should or shouldn't feel empathy, of course we should, ideally. But it's relevant if we can't and they can't because of how our societies function and how our minds work. It's human nature to be more concerned with things closer to home.

So Americans feeling empathy for the uk from 4200 miles away is not the same as UK feeling empathy for Iranians 4000 miles away?

trailwagger

So Americans feeling empathy for the uk from 4200 miles away is not the same as UK feeling empathy for Iranians 4000 miles away?

You shouldn't need me to explain to you why Brits and Americans might consider themselves similar, or culturally linked. Let me ask, do you feel exactly the same level of shock/sorrow/empathy for victims of this terror attack in Iran as you do or did for victims of the Manchester bombing?

You shouldn't need me to explain to you why Brits and Americans might consider themselves similar, or culturally linked. Let me ask, do you feel exactly the same level of shock/sorrow/empathy for victims of this terror attack in Iran as you do or did for victims of the Manchester bombing?

Actually, Yes I do. And the ones in Turkey and ****stan and everywhere else. They are innocent victims of terrorism just like the ones in Manchester.

If you do not, just because they are further away then maybe you should think again. These victims have families and children who will suffer loss just the same as an English person.

rmacattack - Member
Another stabbing reported. 3 women shouting Allah stabed a nursery worker.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40189916

The force is not treating it as a terrorist incident.

Does a gun suddenly compel you to murder?

"The blade itself incites to deeds of violence."

Actually, Yes I do. And the ones in Turkey and ****stan and everywhere else. They are innocent victims of terrorism just like the ones in Manchester.

If you do not, just because they are further away then maybe you should think again. These victims have families and children who will suffer loss just the same as an English person.

Well you have reached a higher level of enlightenment than the vast majority of us.

People are just not wired like that.

When the Manchester bombing happened, both Mrs Gob and myself were shocked and upset, however, she was more upset than me as it's her home town.

When the London Bridge attack, it seemed very close to home and more shocking to me, as I used to regularly commute into London Bridge Station and knew the area well.

I'm going to throw these vids into the mix:

Once again, there is a simple solution tomorrow:

[url= http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tax-avoidance-general-election-2017-labour-manifesto-pledge-tory-party-evasion-british-virgin-a7776856.html ]
David Cameron vowed to crack down on offshore tax evasion – so why has it disappeared from the Tory manifesto?[/url]

The Tories have pledged to scrap the Serious Fraud Office, moving its work to the National Crime Agency

In all the election noise, you are unlikely to have heard anything about a paragraph appearing on the 124th page of the Labour Manifesto – even though it is a manifesto pledge that could transform the world in a truly fundamental way.

The pledge commits the Labour Party to lift the veil of secrecy covering the UK’s Crown Dependencies and Overseas Territories – some of the largest tax havens and secrecy jurisdictions in the world. This will be done by “introducing strict standards for transparency for Crown Dependencies and Overseas Territories, including a public register of owners, directors, major shareholders and beneficial owners for all companies and trusts.”

Wanna check for yourself?

Tada:

http://www.labour.org.uk/…/ma…/Labour%20Manifesto%202017.pdf

Put me down as another one who doesn't think people are more important just because they are white, speak English and/or live close to me.

grum

Put me down as another one who doesn't think people are more important just because they are white, speak English and/or live close to me.

So you feel equal empathy for every human on earth do you?

I have no idea, but does that matter? shouldnt we love all nationalities and races, and not just the ones who are culturally similar to ourselves?

Put me down as another one who doesn't think people are more important just because they are white, speak English and live close to me.

So you feel equal empathy with every human on earth do you

CountZero

those who are deserving of it due to circumstances, yes.

Ah so you're omniscient as well as capable of having love for all (except people who you disagree with on forums). So very impressive.

Not terrorism, but scuffle with armed police ends with policewoman and two bystanders shot by her own weapon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40258353

[url= https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/872075827575492609 ]What could this footage of Boris squirming and blatantly feeling very uncomfortable due to questions asked about the unreleased Home Office report into terrorist funding mean[/url]?

(You have to click link, because I can't find a youtube version to embed)

jivehoneyjive - Member

What could this footage of Boris squirming and blatantly feeling very uncomfortable due to questions asked about the unreleased Home Office report into terrorist funding mean?

(You have to click link, because I can't find a youtube version to embed)

That awkward moment when your economy is reliant on weapons exports and your number one customer is also the number one sponsor of terrorism and just for good measure they sponor the mosques and train the Imams who will be interpreting the troublesome texts for generations to come.

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Bump for the 'Saudi reformer' 's state visit...

Amazing what a few million pumped into PR can do:

A senior British diplomat is working for a firm at the heart of a multimillion dollar Saudi public relations offensive whilst still employed by the Foreign Office (FCO), the Bureau can reveal. The news comes as the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia prepares for a trip to London, where he will be greeted by demonstrations against the civilian death toll in Yemen caused by Saudi bombing.

Still, at least ISIS were swiftly removed from the scene shortly after Boris' squirming...