good luck finding a footprint (I need to get round to cutting down a cheap groundsheet)
You might try getting one made. I had the groundsheet replaced in my Westwind for something silly like £30 from Scottish Mountain Gear, so I suspect they could make one, probably in a variety of grades, for a sensible price.
molgrips - thanks for the tip, will check them out tonight
peterfile - I read the grid plus was specifically aimed at wet European conditions and has a more robust inner than Marmot's other tents for this reason
Noticed a few folks recommending Lightwaves so clearly they've had good experiences.
However, I've just returned one (G20 Trek Geodesic) it being by far and away the worst tent I've ever used. Leaky, impossible to pitch right and holes appearing at seams after 3 weeks of use. A quick google and some input from other users suggests that I'm not alone in this.
There being a number of both good and poor experiences suggests to me that QC or perhaps a lack of testing of certain models could be at the root of it. It's a shame as the basic design is good.
More useful info, just been perusing the Lightwave G20.
As the search continues my budget and 'wants' are warping! Now also looking for 4 season hardiness for some winter adventures!
Still like the Trango!
Grid plus sale price appeals! Any of you guys been out in one in winter?
Thinking short trips, couple of nights, cram 2 of us in there.
Dont know if you're interested in 2nd hand. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mountain-Hardware-Trango-3-1-High-Altitude-Expedition-Tent-/261558752262?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item3ce61dd406 it's the 3 man version though.
Grid plus sale price appeals! Any of you guys been out in one in winter?Thinking short trips, couple of nights, cram 2 of us in there.
I've only been out in one in summer...but IMO you'd get cabin fever in winter.
I do most of my camping in winter and even a spacious 2/3 man can get a bit cramped after you add in winter kit and the fact that you're in it from 4pm until 8am. From memory, 2 people won't be able to sit up straight at the same time, which is a deal breaker for me.
Two sleeping mats, two winter bags and winter clothing is going to pretty much consume most of the inner of the tent. If the weather is bad, you're cooking in it, eating in it, sitting in it, getting changed in it, sorting out kit in it and sleeping in it for 14+ hours of darkness.
Yep, peterfile, that!
Least it would be warm 🙂
Really trying to squeeze two tents out of one, want something to go for lone wanderings in summer, but still do trips with a.n.other in winter.
Probably asking too much!
Although with enough single malt sitting up wont be an option anyway 😉
@wanmankylung: Was just outbid on a trango 3.1 the other day!
Cheers
Really trying to squeeze two tents out of one, want something to go for lone wanderings in summer, but still do trips with a.n.other in winter.
In that case, you want a Tarptent [url= http://www.tarptent.com/scarp2.html ]Scarp 2[/url], with crossing poles and a solid inner.
1.7kg in summer mode, a wee bit heavier in winter mode.
Good luck finding one in the UK though 🙂
So what have you bought or tried ?
Still bobbing around the North Sea i'm afraid so no fettling of fancy tents yet.
But, think i'm sold on the Trango 2. Apart from going up inner 1st there don't seem to be too many bad reviews. It's a wee bit on the heavy side for solo trips, but mostly I'll be with someone else and/or camping out the car, so not much of an issue for most of my needs. On the occasional solo trip i'll not be going too far anyway so it'll still work.
The Hilleberg kit looks great and has fantastic reviews, but can't really justify spending £700-800 for the amount of use it will get.
I've a Colman about 8 years old and never had any issues £126.00 new. Too heavy for backpacking but ideal to throw in the car 🙂
