So has Billy come forward yet?
Weird times the 70s - at least three (alleged) kiddie fiddlers at my school. All very obvious (apparently)...one even looked like a former PM (so they said)
A letter from Richie Allen of http://richieallenshow.com to the Daily Mirror from 4/8/15
Good morning,
My name is Richie Allen and I present a nightly radio show which is carried by Talk Radio Europe, Fab Radio International and streamed online at davidicke.com My verifiable audience is in excess of 30,000 listeners nightly and the daily podcast of my show is downloaded over 10,000 times a week.
I noticed you lead today, with a story about former British Prime Minister Ted Heath. I'm curious as to why, when your paper writes of Heath, Janner, Brittan and the allegations that they were serial child abusers, you don't mention that David Icke named many of these people while they were still walking among us. I know you are aware of this. In several best-selling books, including "The Biggest Secret", published in 1999, David was explicit in describing these people and what they were up to. He alleged that there was a massive network of VIP child abusers operating above the law and around the world. You know this to be true, so why not acknowledge it?
You claim to be a newspaper and that you operate in the public interest. If so, please tell your readers the truth, that someone labelled as a nutter, someone whose family were hounded unmercifully by the tabloid press because of what he was saying, was in fact right on the money on this issue. Your newspaper, if not you personally, played its part in demonising and ridiculing David Icke over the years. Time for a bit of balance maybe? Just a thought. I would appreciate a response as I will be reading my email to you, to my listeners tonight.
I look forward to reading your reply,
kind regards,
Richie Allen
[b]Theory: [/b]
- Ted Heath was a nonce
- He got away with it because the Queen is a lizard who uses mind-control
- The Moon is hollow, and is full of paedo-lizards.
[b]Evidence:[/b]
- a chap says he was buggered by Ted Heath as a child.
[b]Conclusion: [/b]
Theory proven.
That's why Icke isn't being hailed as a prophet, basically. 🙂
I won't trust any of it until I see a pic of the overlord Saville shaking Heaths hand
A blog post with actual pages about Ted Heath from the book if you can bring yourself to read it https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2015/08/03/david-icke-on-ted-heath-in-the-biggest-secret/
he overlord Saville shaking Heaths hand
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Can't actually see Savile's hands, which is perhaps more disturbing. 😉
actual pages
For anyone without the strength to plough through that, it is (as you'd expect) a freeform stream of unreferenced gibberish and innuendo patched together into nothing much.
An unnamed person remembers that Heath used to use hooks to rape her.
Another unnamed person has "identified" Heath as a satanist. She saw a lizard. The lizard was near a country house used by the British PM. The house has the same name as a board game which is played on a board which has the same pattern as the floor of a freemasons hall.
Heath took Britain into the EU, which is fascist.
The Corporation of London's badge has reptiles on it, it owns some woods.
Heath turned into a lizard during a ritual in the woods. The unnamed woman actually saw this happen.
David Icke has not seen it happen, but he thought Heath had funny eyes.
When confronted about the allegation, Heath made sympathetic remarks about David Icke's mental health.
That entire "argument" is set out on a single page.
If the woman who remembers Heath raping her is telling the truth, it is incredibly unfortunate that her story is a couple of sentences buried in that gibberish.
(Obviously, as with all theories about whether consciousness is real, I can't prove that lizards are not controlling my mind to make me sceptical of claims which lack coherent, structured arguments with some sort of reference to verifiable facts)
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all that proves is that Jimmy might have been stroking his tail.
If the woman who remembers Heath raping her is telling the truth, it is incredibly unfortunate that her story is a couple of sentences buried in that gibberish.
This is potentially the sad fact.
Everyone is free to think how they like, a thorough investigation should have been carried out and should be now.
On prediction and why we don't accept people were right if your hit rate is under 10% it's just coincidence. If you resort to the thats what they want you to think, well obviously they would make all the evidence dissapear arguments then it's gossip.
Evidence:- a chap says he was buggered by Ted Heath as a child.
It appears to be better than that - a man says in 1961 as a twelve year old who had already been sexually abused by his father and worked as a rent boy, a man in a car who offered him a lift took him to London, let him stay the night at his posh, one bedroom London flat and had sex with him.
Four years later, he saw a photo of Heath in the newspaper and identified him as the unknown man.
As far as reliable identifications go, it's not screaming 'Book him Danno' to me...
This thread needs two Aliens quotes:
Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
David Icke... jeez.... seriously????????
A letter from Richie Allen of http://richieallenshow.com to the Daily Mirror from 4/8/15
A shining example of false authority syndrome, surely.
"Hi, I'm a DJ and therefore important. I read a book once, therefore you should print a story about the ramblings of a lunatic."
Often times I hate STW, people here can be so nasty and judgemental, but the general consensus on this thread has me applauding.
But what did Kris Kristofferson do?
Well we know for sure he survived that crash off the bridge, don't we. Quack quack. One could argue in terms of calssification that a "rubber duck" is actually a lizard.
In fact Convoy is a secret illumintae message.
"Not say I beat the devil, but I drank his beer for nothing, then I stole his song"
An unnamed person remembers that Heath used to use hooks to rape her.
Another unnamed person has "identified" Heath as a satanist. She saw a lizard. The lizard was near a country house used by the British PM. The house has the same name as a board game which is played on a board which has the same pattern as the floor of a freemasons hall.
Heath took Britain into the EU, which is fascist.
The Corporation of London's badge has reptiles on it, it owns some woods.
Heath turned into a lizard during a ritual in the woods. The unnamed woman actually saw this happen.
David Icke has not seen it happen, but he thought Heath had funny eyes.
When confronted about the allegation, Heath made sympathetic remarks about David Icke's mental health.
You forgot the bit about the Chancellor of the Exchequer also being present at the satanic ritual on Hampstead Heath where the PM transformed himself into a lizard.
This is a way of looking at the current approach of police forces. Dan Hodges is clearly an establishment stooge, though, so feel free to disregard it.
The trouble is, the testimony of genuinely abused people will be somewhere in the flood of messed-up people who accept these invitations to call specially-set-up phone lines with their reptilian delusions. And sadly, their genuine experiences will be lost in the white noise, as will the opportunity to pursue any abusers who are still alive.
I'm confused by this thread because I've not followed the many other similar ones.
Can someone tell me, do 6079smithw and jivehoneyjive really believe the whole David Icke thing or is it just some sort of elaborate troll?
I think that its about time we just admitted defeat and all swear allegiance to our lizard overlords
The trouble is, the testimony of genuinely abused people will be somewhere in the flood of messed-up people who accept these invitations to call specially-set-up phone lines with their reptilian delusions. And sadly, their genuine experiences will be lost in the white noise, as will the opportunity to pursue any abusers who are still alive
This, a thousand times this. Abuse occurs at all levels of society, it goes unreported and unprosecuted for a whole number of reasons, all of them tragic and wrong. The majority of abuse is carried out within family/friendship groups, not by powerful public figures in league with lizard overlords.
As several of us have said on previous related threads, we applaud what JHJ is trying to do as far as uncovering abuse goes, but the whole royalty/lizards/freemasons thing is a distraction and doesn't help.
I don't personally believe everything David Icke has to say...
though there is the teeny-tiny chance there is actually lizards involved, it discredits the many truths that he does allude to.
though there is the teeny-tiny chance there is actually lizards involved
Uh oh..
though there is the teeny-tiny chance there is actually lizards involved, it discredits the many truths that he does allude to.
Well, only in the sense that there's also a teeny-tiny chance that it's aliens, poltergeists, or the vengeful spirit of Cilla Black's hairpiece. And we don't tend to acknowledge even that miniscule chance if we want to sound reasonable.
though there is the teeny-tiny chance there is actually lizards involved
Oh, come on guys, give JHJ a chance. He makes a perfectly reasonable tongue in cheek comment in the context of the argument and we're still jumping in on him
Sounding reasonable is a tricky concept when we live on a planet that is one of billions in a universe of unfathomable size and we don't even know conclusively where we came from.
Oh, OK. Didn't sound entirely tongue in cheek to me, but happy to accept that.
EDIT: Obviously 'reasonable' is somewhat of a social construct, but I find the idea of humans abusing humans a little more plausible than giant space-travelling lizards abusing humans.
Kris Kristofferson is a lizard? Jim Morrison, Shirley.
the idea that Kris Kristofferson is a lizard
WTF did KK do to earn Icke's accusations?
Act in the wrong film?
Surely Cruise is a bit more obvious crazy?
He makes a perfectly reasonable tongue in cheek comment
I call Poe's Law.
Kris Kristofferson is a lizard? Jim Morrison, Shirley.
Kris Kristofferson is Jim Morrison? THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!
best thread in ages 😀
*grabs biscuits*
Sounding reasonable is a tricky concept when we live on a planet that is one of billions in a universe of unfathomable size and we don't even know conclusively where we came from.
Go on then... 😯 🙄 😕
KK got from Ike because Convoy was so bad.
Ike? Wasn't he in with the Bilderbergs?
yes I didnt see JHJ's comment as toungue in cheek at all. He likes to dissemble and wink, but still promotes all this crap.
He certainly sounds like he's been on the Bundabergs.
Interestingly, a google search for "Kris Kristofferson Lizard" throws up almost no results at all. The main one being where some guy wanders onto the David Icke Forum and asks "why do we think Kristofferson is a lizard".
One guy informs him that Kristofferson used mind control to force his penis into the mouth of a woman called Cathy O'Brien. Apparently satisfied, the OP notes that this is sickening, and that he did not know that.
[url= http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=103503 ]Thread here. [/url]
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Hodges asks a pertinent question
[i]This is real. This isn’t Brass Eye. I’m not an expert in police procedure. But if you make a national appeal for people to ring a special hotline with information about a former prime minister abusing children, what do you think’s going to happen?[/i]
Indeed, it's like lighting a torch to attract every every crank, loon, fantasist or nutter for miles around. Even if there [i]were[/i] any real victims, it would be impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Meanwhile, [url= http://www.esotericonline.net/profiles/blogs/the-real-reptilian-threat ]this dude knows Icke is wrong[/url], because he has actually met the lizard people, and they literally have no idea who Kris Kristofferson is.
Again, Poe's Law applies.
During the summer of 1990 our cult was getting the attention of some powerful satanic players, due to the fact that we were contacting some of the same beings they were in the business of worshipping. Of course, nothing that we did relative to these revered creatures ever resembled worship or servitude of any kind. This was the core dispute between our cult and the hard-line satanists. From their point of view, we were dangerous religious heretics. How dare we casually summon up demonic forces without the proper use of ritual protocols? We weren’t even offering blood sacrifices. We would just randomly pick a name from Anton La Vey’s Satanic Bible and conjure said being for our own plot level purposes, all under the strict rules of Total Equality.
Meanwhile, this dude knows Icke is wrong, because he has actually met the lizard people, and they literally have no idea who Kris Kristofferson is.
It was in a truck stop bathroom somewhere in Arizona that it happened. As I sat down on the toilet, the door to the stall suddenly became eclipsed in shadow. Too late, I realized that this stall had no door. With a frightening hiss, Raxor was on top of me.
My vision blurred as a disgusting smell inflamed my nostrils. I felt incredibly hot, as if I were inside an oven. At the same time I sensed the creature within my mind, trying to pick the lock on my personal unconscious secrets. Assimilation was happening. I tried to scream but a strange goop began to fill my mouth, choking me.
As I exited the bathroom, a hissing cry pierced the air:
“Shie Ublug Yog-Sothoth Shie Tsathoggua!”
We've all been there, folks. Normally I just warn my workmates to avoid trap 4 for a while.
Indeed, it's like lighting a torch to attract every every crank, loon, fantasist or nutter for miles around. Even if there were any real victims, it would be impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Have you got any proof that the police don't know what they're doing and can't identify genuine victims?
Haven't previous successful prosecutions relied precisely on people coming forward after media publicity?
BigDummy - Member"Sounding reasonable is a tricky concept when we live on a planet that is one of billions in a universe of unfathomable size and we don't even know conclusively where we came from."
Go on then...
Well obviously JHJ doesn't think that the Queen is a blood-drinking, shape-shifting reptilian humanoid, from the Alpha Draconis star system, but he can't be 100% sure.
The Times carries a report today with comments from the prosecuting barrister in court case which is said to have been dropped because of the threats made to expose Ted Heath. The prosecuting barrister is now a judge and confirmed the case was dropped because the witnesses failed to turn up with the result.
. Forde was jailed twice in connection with the brothel and used teenagers from a care home in the trade.“One was a male prostitute — over age — who was engaged in business and wouldn’t come to court. He was off seeing a client somewhere. There were two other women. One was in Holloway [prison] and was brought to the court. But she refused to come up from the cells. The other didn’t turn up.”
He said that Forde, who was successfully prosecuted within three years, had men working for her but “nobody suggested to me they were under age”
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article4518578.ece
Mr Seed said, adding that there was no cover-up and ““I know for a fact that the case was not dropped because of Edward Heath, it had nothing to do with him,”
” as they had nothing to do with his decision to abort the case. After its collapse, Wiltshire police redoubled their efforts to get a conviction and close her business, which was exploiting children in care and turning them into prostitutes.certainly no conspiracy by police officers
Is anyone else seeing an eclectic collection of Amazon suggestions at the bottom of this thread? - as I write this it includes including the Kris Kristofferson Guitar Collection, Ted Heath & His Music and random Blade runner memorabilia.
Imagine reading a book by someone who at the heart of his theory lies the claim that the Queen is a blood-drinking, shape-shifting reptilian humanoid, from the Alpha Draconis star system.
That's never been the heart of his theory. That's the stuff that he's come back with again time and time again from people he's talked to.
In fact he goes to great pains to stress he doesn't have a theory; he just goes where information takes him and that often persists in to territories most find ridiculous.
But in essence that's what you've got to do if you want to get answers.
In fact he goes to great pains to stress he doesn't have a theory; he just goes where information takes him and that often persists in to territories most find ridiculous.
You see this is where the problem lies. Each "fact" or "claim" does not stand on its own.
These "facts" or "claims" often contradict or do not directly support each other but it is seen as a general body of evidence. The bloke Icke is an epic moron, some people, including you rone and JHJ, need to learn some critical thinking skills.
