the fact i can cover all my tattoos and be treated one way, then take off an item of clothing and be treated another is silly. i dont judge people for not having tattoos, but i reserve the right to accuse someone of being judgemental if they're making assumptions about me because of mine.
I have already accepted your accusation, so no need to defend it.
You wouldn't have to take the clothes off, if you just told me you had a tattoo that would change my opinion of you..
In fact I haven't actually seen you, or your tattoos, but I already have an impression of you.
I expect you already have an impression of me, but you have never met me. All you know about me is my communications on here (and elsewhere).
Tattoos are a method of communication, just as forums are. Communication is never perfect.
Often on this forum, I say one thing and people think it means something else, just as you have your tattoos for one reason and yet I think they mean something else.
You have to accept that by choosing to have a tattoo people will look at it and have some kind of opinion about you, it's just a fact of life.
that's cool 🙂
my only impression of you at the moment is that (hopefully) you're as chilled about this as i am... it doesn't bother me at all to be honest. i mades me choices and people make their judgements. if i were slightly less awesome then i might try and fight the cause somewhat in an effort to try and defend all tattooed people everywhere, but fact of the matter is there's a huge population of people who want tattoos just to stand out for whatever reason.
i'm already a stand-out kinda guy 8)
if it wasn't for my own tattoos i'd probably be much quicker to judge others for theirs. if we lived in a different culture we might be discussing how foolish people are for not having tattoos.
Yeah like I said my two brothers and a very good mate have tattoos, I don't think any less of them.
I just don't like them, can't see the appeal and do not like the associations that tattoo's inevitably bring.
The oatmeal sketch above describes it perfectly..
8)if i were slightly less awesome then i might try and fight the cause somewhat in an effort to try and defend all tattooed people everywhere,
huge population of people who want tattoos just to stand out for whatever reason.
Do you not think the growing population kind of diminishes the stand out factor?
i do think it diminishes the stand out factor dramatically, and the stereotype of a tattooed person is slowly breaking down... which i think is a positive thing as hopefully we'll see more people choosing to get tattoos for better reasons.
but whilst there are still people who apply the stereotype, there will be people who think its rebellious/hard/edgy/whatever to get a tattoo.
at least with tattoos you have to admit you made a mistake if you end up not liking it, piercings you can take out, CD collections you can bin and fashion choices can be wiped from memory. i respect that commitment, even though sometime's i'll look at somebodies tattoo and wonder if twighlight will still be their favourite film in 30 years time lol
stereotype of a tattooed person is slowly breaking down
Well it's changing - it was the gnarly bikers, or military, but now its the chavs..
You have to accept that by choosing to have a tattoo people will look at it and have some kind of opinion about you, it's just a fact of life.
Then you have to consider whether you give a **** about the opinion of the individual. If they're the type of people who stereotype you, then I'd suggest that they're opinion isn't worth much.
Yeah possibly, but what I was trying to get at (although I think I went off track) is that, say, two people were being interviewed for a job flipping burgers in MacDonald's and one had the name of their first-born tattooed in a script on the inside of their wrist and the other had 'kill' and 'death' tattooed on their eyelids, would they both be treated the same or would conventional thinking dictate that the employer thinks the former acceptable and the latter not?
For the record, I know Phil and I think his tats are awesome. Some serious quality work that lifts above just being a tattoo and creeps into the realm of art. I'm actually slightly jealous..... But (sorry Phil 🙂 ) they are only the second best I've ever seen. The best was a woman we met at Ladybower cafe last year. My brother (who will never have a tattoo) asked her about them. Apparently they were her 40th birthday present. Full sleeves on both arms, and simply the most intricate and beautiful work I've ever seen. I'm not even going to try to describe them. But yeah. Not for everyone. Beautiful all the same. 🙂
then I'd suggest that they're opinion isn't worth much.
Wrecker, no-one has ever given my opinion any value, apart from on here where it seems to piss people off..
I'm also just as judgmental about bad grammar
ftfy.[s]they're[/s] their
If you liked Xiphons friend, I suggest following thugxwife on instagram....
[s]they're[/s] their
Really? They're being they are? as in [i]they are the type[/i] or [i]they're the type[/i]?
Are you sure about that
I though the their was belonging to them i.e [i]that vibrator is theirs[/i]
I'm also just as judgmental about bad grammar
Perhaps you should improve on yours then? 😀
I though the their was belonging to them i.e that vibrator is theirs
then I'd suggest that they're opinion isn't worth much.
As in the opinion that "belongs" to them. ?
Correct.If [u]they're[/u] the type of people who stereotype you....
Incorrect....then I'd suggest that [u]they're[/u] opinion isn't worth much.
DrP
(Sorry!)
Thanks DrP. Do one glover.
the other had 'kill' and 'death' tattooed on their eyelids,
depends if they blink during the interview 😉
No, Wrecker. Glover was right....!
They're = they are.
"they are nice pants". "they're nice pants".
Their = belongs to.
Can't be used in "they're my pants", even though the pants belong to 'him'.
But "That's their car" IS correct, and how your second statement should be written.
"If they're the type of people who stereotype you, then I'd suggest that [b]their[/b] opinion isn't worth much."
DrP
(what the hell am I doing.......!)
You're all freaks....
...some with tattoos, some without....
I posted in the "do drugs make you stupid" thread....
Do one glover.
Same answer as Dr P as it goes.
But never mind.
^^
Fair recovery Wrecker, good work sir.
Tips hat and wanders off, swinging cane and whistling.....
DrP
No, Wrecker. Glover was right....!
I think you'll find I was right first!
Also wrecker , if you only post half of my sentence then it will not have the full stop will it?
This
is all one sentence.I'm also just as judgmental about bad grammar "[s]they're[/s]their" ftfy.
But, I'll think you will find it was tongue in cheek, anyway, as my grammar is terrible.
In the meantime, post up a pic of your tattoo/s, I need a laugh.
xiphon - Member
It's an album by Tom Waits. Presumably, she's a life-long fan of his music...
It could be the band - [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raindogs ]Raindogs[/url]
Or maybe its just her 2 favourite nouns
She's a Tom Waits fan 😉
She's a Tom Waits fan
Do you fancy your wife's mate?
I, or others, use it as a way to decide how we interact with you.
Good policy. I do the same with brown people and those who have the gayness.
but cougar... everyone is brown if they dont wash regularly. don't be judging poor people.
Good policy. I do the same with brown people and those who have the gayness.
Logic fail, misseth my point entirely.
Brown and/or gay is genetic/natural/bornwithit, (at least all the brown and/or gay people I know were born with their skin colour/sexuality) it tells you nothing about the person other than the colour of their skin or what they do with their genitals, hardly informative is it.
You are not born with tattoos now are you. So if you choose to get a tattoo or tattoos then that tells me an awful lot about you.
My judgementalness is a judgement on the choices you make.
You chose to be thick then. I have passed judgement on you too. Which is a shame as I once respected you.
In the meantime, post up a pic of your tattoo/s, I need a laugh.
Can't do it dude. It's [i]mine[/i]. It's military and stamp-like anyway so about the least individual type of tattoo around.
Brown and/or gay is genetic/natural/bornwithit,
Ok, fair point; vegetarians and christians, then.
I once respected you.
I doubt that, but thanks. I'm clearly not trying hard enough. (-:
Cougar if you said
Then it wouldn't have had the impact you wanted - ie accusing me of rascism or homophobia.Good policy. I do the same with[s] brown [/s] christian people and those who have the [s]gayness[/s] vegitarianism.
I actually do judge vegetarians and christians in the same way that I judge tatooed people, so your irony has been burned by your logical failure. 😆 (anyway I'm fairly sure your opinion of christians is not far off mine and I reckon I could persuade you to have no respect for vegitarians with a bit of leading in the right direction, try me)
Wrecker - a proper military tattoo is something that I quite like and have respect for - if you earned it. So I am happy to be accused of a sweeping generalisation, as I also like a [b]proper[/b] ethnic/cultural tattoo, on someone from that ethnicity/culture. There, see, tattoos are not so bad now, well, unless its a lame one which about 99.9999999% of them are thesedays.
So show it now, HTFU.
# vegetarianism - hangs head in shame.
Then it wouldn't have had the impact you wanted - ie accusing me of rascism or homophobia.
I wasn't accusing you of anything, I was trying to demonstrate the folly in a) rash generalisations and b) judging a book by its cover.
I reckon I could persuade you to have no respect for vegitarians with a bit of leading in the right direction, try me
I reckon that might be an entertaining exercise. Who's got the Hob-Nobs?
this is definitely one of the 0.0000001%
Mmmmmm, no. It's not.
Is the issue not the reason for getting a tattoo?
If it's "to get a tattoo" then is that a good reason? If it represents something close to you then that might be a good reason although I'm not a fan of them regardless.
An example that springs to mind of the fashion thing is over hearing two temp girls talking in the canteen at work. They were both saying they wanted to get tattoos, but neither could decide what pattern or design to get. Is that simply a fashion choice or an attitude/edgy statement to create.
In the end, one of them described a long train of flowers, starting above her knee, up the thigh, skirting just above her mary and then across her tummy. She just said she just fancied that pattern and it had no meaning to her at all. Something so obvious, on your body for ever, without really a thought about living with it long term? If it is just a statement to create a persona, or give the impression of being something you may or may not be (or aspire to be), then you are kind of stuck with it if you change...
I cant help but think that the fashion side has taken over the rise in amount of tattoos seen and I suspect tattoo removal could be a good industry to get in to in the near future...
plain skin is boring.
How strange.
Wrecker - a proper military tattoo is something that I quite like and have respect for - if you earned it.
LOL. Do you think I'm Mike golden or something?
[url= http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Mike_Golden ]The esteemed Mr Golden[/url]
[i]tattoo removal? when there's such masterpieces around?[/i]
Do you not think that person is trying to [i]hide[/i] something with that tattoo?
true debz... its probably a backstreet boys cover up!
LOL. Do you think I'm Mike golden or something?
No no, the "if you have earned it" was not aimed at you, it was aimed at the mike goldens of this world.
Come on show us the tat.
That giraffe one is pretty cool.
Also, isn't the "place boob here" written the wrong way up? (unless he meant moob?)




