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I tried it twice, in the early 1990s, when a relative was a total pothead. I was trying to argue that he should give it up, and he was saying that I couldn't say that unless I tried it. So I did. Twice. And it didn't do much for me. That said, in light of its increasing legalisation, I am interested in its effects.
What does it actually do for you? Is there a type of drunkenness (or some other form of experience) it could be compared to? Are there 'good' and 'bad' ways of ingesting it? What would you say are its benefits? What are its downsides?
I can possibly imagine some, but I would like to know from the perspective of regular, or experienced, users.
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Sod it man, i mean, it's not like you've got much else on at the moment.
Crack on and report back!
You're seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.
Is that a good call?
Does anybody know how to increase the power of my air pistol to at least twice the legal power limit?
From my experience it seems to turn anyone who takes it into the most tedious person on the planet
Aye, cos that's the same, innit. Well done Dewek.
You’re seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.
He has had a blow to the head, wouldn't take much of a lawyer to get him off anything at the moment.
My older brother makes Bob Marley look like an occasional recreational user.
He’s 49 but looks seventy
Might be a coincidence though.
Why do you need to try it to criticise it - I gave up fags recently having spent years listening to people tell me to - I never said to them ‘you need to try it before criticising me’...!!
You’re seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.
No, he's asking for information. Asking for advice would be 'should I take it?'
You’re seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.
He's asking for information about a substance which is legal in many places, most recently (and perhaps what has piqued the OP's interest), in Canada.
I couldn’t say that unless I tried it. So I did. Twice. And it didn’t do much for me.
This forum. *sigh*
Trying something twice and not understanding it doesn't mean it's time to walk away or dismiss it.
Much like getting the hang of riding your bike...
Practice practice practice 😉
There's an absolute ton of good information on drugs and their effects online if researching stuff is of more interest than partaking
You’re seeking advice on a Class B drug on an open forum.
No, he’s asking for information. Asking for advice would be ‘should I take it?’
Also, he's not asking about sourcing it in the UK. If any questions were to be asked the answer would be, 'I'm planning a trip to Amsterdam, Vancouver, other, so am learning about risks should I choose to try it.'
I'm told that standard weed is not easily available. Most of the stuff on sale now is genetically modified to increase THC. Some of if can cause mental health problems it's so strong. (The boss' eldest son was sectioned for several months having smoked stronger stuff for a couple of years at uni).
From my experience it seems to turn anyone who takes it into the most tedious person on the planet
I'll admit I used to take a lot of drugs, if you want annoying people in your life, mix with coke heads. They don't call it instant arsehole powder for nothing. It's lovely, couldn't recommend it though.
As for weed, I can't really help you much. In the 90s and 00s it was like a sedative, you smoked a bit of weed, melted into the sofa, sometimes giggled yourself silly, sometimes couldn't stop eating, but for the most part it was just a nice feeling - 'the buzz' isn't like alcohol, but yes it changes the way you feel and it generally feels pretty good. Occasionally, especially if you started smoking a lot very often you could become very paranoid. Actually that's something that effects people when they first try it sometimes too, but you were generally okay in the middle ground. It is an incredible painkiller too.
However, times they have changed. Back then you either got industrial grade low grade hash from Morocco which was generally pretty horrible but got you stoned, pressed blocks of imported seedy dry weed which was okay but pretty mild or home grown weed which was often hard to find, but usually pretty good if the grower had the patience to let it grown fully and dry it before selling it, which well got you stoned.
These days it's a bit more organised, it's grown in rented houses on an industrial level, whole houses full of grow lights and extraction systems and either the sellers or the market have been pushing higher and higher levels of THC (the psychoactive element) through selective breeding - I heard on the radio the other day that 'street weed' / skunk is around 14 times stronger than it was. I tried some a few years ago and I didn't like it, doesn't seem to relax you at all any more, it's more like a stimulant, mind racing a million miles an hour but not really functioning. 'the buzz' was just unpleasant to me. It's was like hoping for a nice post-ride pint and then necking 6 cans of Special Brew with a couple of oddly coloured Vodka shots.
I'm told if you want nice weed these days you need a good dealer and or ideally join one of the pseudo legal Cannabis clubs and secure a source of decent weed with a good THC / CBD.
I am guessing this is either for use in Amsterdam or California*
Quite different to alcohol.
Much less mischievous and trouble making. The "giggles" correctly describes it mixed with mellowness and relaxed and not giving a shit. None of the aggressiveness and feeling of being invincible, argumentative etc - quite the opposite when the paranoia sets in after a while.
As a one off every now and then it's fine (but rather not smoked due to the health effects of smoke) and I would say better than alcohol (if just taking to get drunk). It's the long term changes that I have seen all too often that are the problem. That happy giggly phase starts to become rare and an overwhelming and controlling paranoia and depression kicks in.
I don't get hooked to substances, coffee was the only vice anyone thought I had but I haven't touched a drop for 3 weeks now purely as an experiment and to prove to my doctor it's not the coffee giving me urinary problems.
*other places are legalised too
P-jay has covered it nicely. I used to partake in the late 90’s and early 00’s and much preferred it to alcohol. My house, weekend in winter, bring an instrument and some food. Good times just jamming, listening to music and using California Games or Teken to decide who makes a brew / rings for a takeaway / answers the door etc. Mixing resin with yoghurt used to produce an interesting effect.
it goes well with Tim Hortons
30 years ago, basically harmless and surely less damaging than alcohol though smoking with tobacco isn't exactly the best delivery method. Couldn't vouch for the modern stronger stuff though. And even back then i had one scary paranoid experience which was funny with hindsight but a bit upsetting at the time. Think it's eaten a chunk for some reason.
Now mushrooms, that was mental fun. Just brilliant.
Apart from the stupid laws, I can't see a good reason for someone who is happy to drink occasionally to also try some of the other not-terribly-addictive drugs as well. They aren't particularly worse or more dangerous, it's just historical accident that they are illegal and alcohol isn't.
I liked the first bit if you have a few tokes but the rest was just rubbish as I felt it robbed me of time I could be doing something else. I felt the effects of it sometimes 2 days after. Where as other drugs the bad bit is over with after a day max. Give it a go
I’d say that the biggest challenge to use is the tests for drug driving, as I understand it there are no accepted levels in the same way as drink driving and so you could potentially test as positive many days or even weeks post use.
if driving is key in or out of work I’d look into that aspect in detail.
I’d say that the biggest challenge to use is the tests for drug driving, as I understand it there are no accepted levels in the same way as drink driving
There is, but a lot less info on how much or how long after using is ‘safe’. The Police usually ask if you’ve taken any in the last 24 hours, but if you don’t look stoned and don’t have a car that stinks of weed you won’t be tested.
PM Somafunk.. he's had experience of all sorts of pain relieving drugs. From memory he's broken his back twice in about 5 places and lives in varying degrees of pain.
I get hold of vapable weed oil. Works a treat for slowing down my mind chatter. It lowers my anxiety , BPD & depression.
Most of the stuff on sale now is genetically modified to increase THC
I doubt it, coulds quite a lot to modify a crop I imagine.
I'd be very surprised if the OP knows where to get hold of any, so we probably don't need to worry 🙂
As I understand it, taking drugs of any class isn't illegal. Asking to buy drugs isn't illegal. And asking for advise online certainly isnt illegal.
Being in possession, selling, offering to sell or supply , or manufacturing is. Likewise being under the influence behind the wheel.
So if the op is considering it then as long as he doesn't get caught with it then he hasn't broken any laws. Not sure why he's want to however..never did anything for me.
Give it a go
Thanks, but no thanks. As I said, I tried it in the early 1990s, and have had no interest since. All sorts of people do, though, which is why I asked the question. I just want to understand it. To be honest, I wouldn't mind knowing about the experience of other drug use, too, but asking in public is probably not the done thing.
I feel much better having an edible on a Friday night to wind down after the working week, than I did when using alcohol to do the same. There are different strains, sativa is more energising, indica is more relaxing.
lol I just got a moderator warning. 🤔
Drugs are bad kids, don't do them or you'll have a terrible time 🤐
I tried it twice, in the early 1990s
Did you even inhale bro?
To be honest, I wouldn’t mind knowing about the experience of other drug use, too, but asking in public is probably not the done thing.
There's quite a lot written about it, both fiction and non. Try Niall Griffiths, since you're a man of leisure currently. I wonder if now you'll appreciate the benefit of e-readers 🙂
"as long as he doesn’t get caught with it then he hasn’t broken any laws."
Hmm. Fairly sure that if you steal my bike but manage to sell it down the pub before the police catch up with you then you're still a criminal.
You buy illegal drugs, you support drug dealers. You support drug dealers you support all the violence, abuse and death that goes with them.
tried it twice.
threw up twice.
so not for me.
You buy illegal drugs, you support drug dealers. You support drug dealers you support all the violence, abuse and death that goes with them.
And lets not forget that video piracy funds terrorism.
And home taping is killing music.
Lots of studies have shown that it exacerbates mental health disorders in those susceptible to developing them. Modern neuroimaging advances have shown that it accelerates grey brain matter loss ... so its not good for the brain regardless what long term users will tell you ... or themselves.
From my own experience; I tried it quite a bit more than twice whilst I was younger. It just wasn`t something I liked. Alcohol was definitely my favoured poison ... which itself is toxic to the body & brain.
On the positive side, I’d pay good money to see a Cardiff Canadian attempt a fake Jamaican accent in an attempt to say the phrase.....”Chiiiiiiiiilllllll Wiiiiiinstoooon”
That’d be actual priceless. 😂
Hmm. Fairly sure that if you steal my bike but manage to sell it down the pub before the police catch up with you then you’re still a criminal
Yes, you could be convicted of theft, or handling stolen goods.
But that's irrelevant. What law would someone have broken if they had taken drugs? Assuming they aren't caught with them in their possession.
Not saying taking drugs is the thing to do, they have the potential to ruin your life, simply pointing out it's not illegal to take them.
lol I just got a moderator warning. 🤔
Drugs are bad kids, don’t do them or you’ll have a terrible time 🤐
And your original post has vanished! It’s not the weed making you paranoid, they really are out to get you 😱
I couldn’t say that unless I tried it. So I did. Twice. And it didn’t do much for me.
practice makes perfect.
i like drugs, but i particularly like weed. had the very occasional smoke in the last couple of months (the shit with my driving licence is done... i passed the drug and psychologist test in September!) but was virtually drug free for 18 months.
can't say that i felt any better. if anything the reality of life is more of a downer now than it was previously. it numbs the pain of reality.
i now drink lots more red wine.
i like weed.
Presumably if the CPS could be bothered (i. e. deemed it in the public interest) then an admission of taking drugs is an admission of having them in your possession.
In scotland you would need further evidence as IIRC you can't incriminate yourself, not sure about the rest of the uk. Not sure if there's a statute of limitations either.
Most of the stuff on sale now is genetically modified
No it isn't, it's just bred into different strains that have varying amounts of the active compounds.
Just don't do what Jon Snow did on the telly for your first time and you'll have a great time. Hopefully the UK will catch up with the US and Canada and make available better ways of consuming it than some illegally grown stuff rolled with a B&H.
I’d say that the biggest challenge to use is the tests for drug driving, as I understand it there are no accepted levels in the same way as drink driving and so you could potentially test as positive many days or even weeks post use.
tell me about it...!
but then you could argue that the drug tests are flawed and are not a good indicator of whether you are fit to drive. THC hangs around in the system even though it is no longer active.
Presumably if the CPS could be bothered (i. e. deemed it in the public interest) then an admission of taking drugs is an admission of having them in your possession.
In scotland you would need further evidence as IIRC you can’t incriminate yourself, not sure about the rest of the uk. Not sure if there’s a statute of limitations either.
You'd think so but law says you need to be caught in possession as far as I am aware. Even if you admitted it, or took a photo of you snorting a line and posted it online, how do they prove it's an illegal substance.
My take on it is , it's like a great friend that you love hanging out with & you can have a brilliant time with & you are tight. But what you don't realize is that your best friend is kind of twisted a likes sutly influencing you in ways thatare against your best interest , their a bit of a sociopath & the longer your in their influence is very much against your general well being.
I was influenced for a long time , but I also laughed my ass of also. I don't really do regret but am glad as **** I stopped, can't stand the stuff now.
Just my take.