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And the award for most misleading thread title goes to unfitgeezer. Your title and initial post paint Corbyn as the child snatcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Only he's talking about borrowing property short term to help victims of a horrendous event.
The lack of empathy from some is astounding, though sadly not at all surprising. I just hope you're never put in a similar situation.
^ I just pity him. And that Jamba, whatever the **** that is.
I just hope you're never put in a similar situation.
I'm guessing like any good right winger the op will accept that living in a burning building was entirely his choice and that he will have planned ahead with a couple of nice investment properties to move into. Doesn't everyone?
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unfitgeezer - Member
I could ney careless !
clearly.
I'm surprised you can make a judgement on someone you've never met, and there was me thinking you were a decent chap or at least thats how it comes across with your caring attitude.
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I just hope you're never put in a similar situation.I'm guessing like any good right winger the op will accept that living in a burning building was entirely his choice and that he will have planned ahead with a couple of nice investment properties to move into. Doesn't everyone?
you are talking absolute shit !!!!
I'm surprised you can make a judgement on someone you've never met, and there was me thinking you were a decent chap or at least thats how it comes across with your caring attitude.
They're your words, no mine.
some pathetic idiot responces on this thread, and some abstract trolling from under the bridge.
Jermy Corbyn cannot be trusted, he even ducked out of national service
you are talking absolute shit !!!!
I think you should really call it quits here. You started a thread with a title clearly chosen to provoke, then filled your initial post full of half truths, conjecture and bollocks. Now you accuse somebody else of talking shite?
This is STW at its, what's a great word for the opposite of finest, most vile?
Just pretend they're talking about houses
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funkmasterp - Member
you are talking absolute shit !!!!
I think you should really call it quits here. You started a thread with a title clearly chosen to provoke, then filled your initial post full of half truths, conjecture and bollocks. Now you accuse somebody else of talking shite?This is STW at its, what's a great word for the opposite of finest, most vile?
I think you're right I'll quit, sorry once again that it's okay for you to accuse me of not caring about anyone and that I'm a right winger. Sorry
That wasn't me, but apology accepted any way 😉
Sad to see a thread such as this on STW. I'm all up for open debate but this and some of the political threads lately have made me realise I need to spend less time online.
If British citizens buying homes in Spain and France distorted the market to the detriment of the locals, I would have no problems [s]with[/s] [b]believing[/b] their governments [s]taking[/s] [b]would take[/b] action to correct that situation.
FTFY
I agree devash. Some of the tripe posted here is straight from the pages of Britain First or EDL. I just add them to my mental list of idiots, take a moment to thank **** I'm a bit brighter than them and then ignore them.
Zone them out.
[quote=jambalaya ]Damn foreigners paying high prices for houses and making the locals rich eh ? Barstewards the lot of them.
As pointed out, it's not the locals getting rich, but in any case, it's already rich people being made richer and whilst I'm not enough of a lefty to think that inherently wrong, it's certainly not benefiting society in general (and just to head off the anticipate "trickle down economics" argument, any benefit from that is more than outweighed by the detrimental effects of high property prices).
A very large number of those units where occupied by retired people who'd lived there all their lives, that's fair enough but don't then complain firefighters and nurses have no where to live.
Good point. It's clearly retired people refusing to leave the communities they've lived in all their lives where all their friends are who are causing the housing problem.
"occupied by old people" lol why haven't the police caught up with this problem!
Corbyn said OCCUPY, in campaign speak that has, imo, a very specific meaning based upon the occupy movement.
Good job he's not campaigning, hey.
I grew up in a village that's in commutable distance of a large city, not so many rich foreigners but plenty of white collar business types bought houses there during the boom, no-one that I went to school with and am still in touch with still lives there because house prices were outrageous. Not sure what benefit that's brought to the region for anyone other than an existing home owner, did nack-all for me as my parents rented so when they passed away and the rent went through the roof, I had to buy the cheapest one-bed maisonette I could afford in a grotty area of the nearest new town instead of something similar in the village my friends and family lived in.
People thinking they have a right to live in the Borough are taking the micky
Look on the bright side Jamba, there are nearly a hundred less of those "Micky Takers" for you to worry about now aren't there.
****ing heartless bastard.
@Sandwhich he said OCCUPY - thats seizure
Oh well - what a ****ing tragedy that would be.
People are starting to remember that if a big enough portion of society gets wound up, then the rich can and will literally be eaten.
Remember folk, the law is a social construct - and it breaks down if enough people feel disenfranchised by society.
Remember folk, the law is a social construct - and it breaks down if enough people feel disenfranchised by society.
Agreed once more. That's twice in one morning 😉
Perhaps the people need some cake,always makes a difference.
Look on the bright side Jamba, there are nearly a hundred less of those "Micky Takers" for you to worry about now aren't there.
They were only poor people, probably benefits scroungers. WGAS.
not that I'm rich by any means but there seems be a real hatred of people owning money on the site, why ?
for e.g. my oldest and best friend earns what I earn in a year in a week, I'm not jealous we still hangout he just has more money than me so what ? he worked hard to get where he is why would anyone resent that of someone else ? he also like most law abiding citizens pays a lot of tax back to this country- thats surely a good thing.
i didn't expect this post to turn into a hatred or attacking post. I aired my views and yes it wasn't well thought out or written with any real research.
I believe there are many people on this site that own 2 or 3 properties does that mean they are not liked ? We are lucky that we can live in a society where we are allowed to do this, without savings or owning properties what incentive is there to work ?
The many families affected from the fire is heartbreaking apart from paying my taxes theres not much more I can do ? is there ? ( i mean on a bigger level)
I work in the charity sector and I see many walks of life everyday, some make you laugh some make you cry.
Just except people for who they are - our poo all smells the same.
Have a nice day enjoy the weather
Over n out from the capital
There was someone on here asking about buying a buy-to-let in Poland. I didn't notice any outrage.
Someone else said it's fine if landlords rent out - that would depend on how affordable the rent is.
Requisitioning property that has been empty more than a year seems reasonable to me.
without savings or owning properties what incentive is there to work ?
This is a great and timeless question. It's only a shame that here it was rhetorical.
Back to the thread. Seriously, how much tabloid spin are the British going to tolerate? We have lost our way. Our moral and political compass is not only spinning wildly, it's flinging shite left and right.
They were only poor people, probably benefits scroungers. WGAS.
And they all seem to have funny foreign sounding names. They shouldn't have been let into the country anyways. They're lucky we let them burn to death!
<for the hard of thinking this is called satire, and I don't really actually think this>
without savings or owning properties what incentive is there to work ?
I don't own any properties (although I do have a mortgage) and I currently have no savings. I work to provide for my family, end of. If I was single, with no family, I'd probably be working a lot less.
without savings or owning properties what incentive is there to work ?
To provide for my family and to help society.
not that I'm rich by any means but there seems be a real hatred of people owning money on the site, why ?
Not at all. I'd say there's real hatred of people regurgitating Daily Mail headlines which bear little resemblance to facts and an apparent glass jaw when it comes to being held to account. You're not one of those ghastly sycophants who thinks May is a victim of the fire are you?
+1 zokes
People need to first install the tea and kittens plug in that blocks the mail and also read through the spin. Start with actual quotes read the speech and maybe questioning why somebody is spinning it.
There is also a huge division between people who are struggling and the poorest by a lot of standards most people are doing OK. They probably wouldn't recognise the lives of those doing it really tough. You know do you have insurance or eat?
You're not one of those ghastly sycophants who thinks May is a victim of the fire are you?
No I can't stand her either !
Requisitioning property that has been empty more than a year seems reasonable to me.
Indeed. These people are hoarding a resource - in the olden days of food shortages, people who were found to have been hoarding grain got a lot worse than that.
Lazy Wikipedia link to an example which preceded the French Revolution, but there are plenty of examples from the UK:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flour_War
like most law abiding citizens pays a lot of tax back to this country
Are you actually serious....?
I worked as a contractor a few years ago, where I was seen as a lunatic by other contractors, for not avoiding tax, through creative accounting...
In the context of believing tabloid headlines, it seems The Guardian are somewhat on point today...
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there seems be a real hatred of people owning money on the site, why ?
No there isn't. There's a hatred of just ill thought out regurgitated tabloid outrage, that's all.
Nickc +1
not that I'm rich by any means but there seems be a real hatred of people owning money on the site, why ?
There is a dislike of people who are selfish and have a strange set of priorities and a complete lack of empathy. This thread highlights those people very well.
It has nothing to do with money. A lot of lefties on this forum are clearly not poor (me included), you don't have to be poor to be able to empathise and more importantly support polices that help less fortunate people.
I can actually see a situation where (assuming there are lots of empty properties owned by rich folk- there may not be as many as people think) a rich person who voluntarily decides to help people who've been burnt out of their homes might be allowed the market rent as a tax right off (a charitable gift - get me a tax expert to check the details there).
Rich folk still get the capital gain, also get a tax credit and burnt out to the streets people get a roof.
Assuming that rich folk have a sense of doing the right thing (with a small financial nudge).
Is the only incientive that stands a chance working to give tax breaks to the rcih to encourage them?
There are people out there who can't even afford a bicycle. (maybe someone stole theirs?) How about lending one of these poor unfortunates one of your 5k bikes (conservative estimate) that is sitting in the garage doing nowt.
Instead of putting more money in to Hope's coffers by adorning your bike with fancy coloured adornments, how about donating that money to a worthy cause?
Same with your second car or another one of your expensive electrical gizmos. Is Nescafe really that bad?
I had to work hard for these trinkets would be a standard response but you still have comparative riches beyond the reach of some, just not on the same scale as those faceless oligarchs .
How many bikes does Jezza own, anyway? Typical, bike-hogging champagne socialist. 😆
Edukator - I'm just thinking of something faster, cheaper, and shorter term that CPO.
Common decency might be a better situation, but I haven't heard of folk rushing forward with accommodation on that basis.
You make a reasonable point - I'm just avoiding it with my solution.
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It's ok in theory, but we all know that if this happens the council won't then re-home them due to budget cuts, lack of available suitable properties etc. How long will the properties be needed for? What if once in they don't want to move again? Imagine losing your home in this horrific fire then getting evicted because the council won't/can't re-home you, you've nowhere to go and the owner wants their property back.
Are there enough empty properties anyway?
Are there enough empty properties anyway?
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i didn't expect this post to turn into a hatred or attacking post.
Did you read your post? 😯 😆
Did you read your post?
I aired my views and yes it wasn't well thought out or written with any real research.
Seems he did.