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**** !

Does it stop there ? No and we all know that, next it will be ah you've got to much money, give it to the government- I'm relieved he didn't get into power, the man is a danger.

You can't just take people property away, the biggest joke is oh we'll reimburse them what with ??? Kensington is one of the most expensive places in the U.K. to buy property so his plan is pretty much flawed.

For the record I like some of the labour policies but corbyn utter twunt

If you agree with him then you won't mind giving your hard earnings/ house away either.

Rant over


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 6:59 pm
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I'd step away from the Daily Mail if I were you.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:03 pm
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So people made homeless by a fire shouldn't be rehomed temporarily in properties nearby that are being purposely left empty? Seems like a bonza idea to me.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:03 pm
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He's going to take your empty house? Brick by brick?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:04 pm
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Me too, you have a definite case of brain poison.

Two months off the red tops young man.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:05 pm
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There has been way too much market freedom in the housing market, allowing some to buy homes and leave them sit empty while they become more expensive, and people on normal wages to be priced out. FFS someone moving to London now could be on 50k a year and still have to rent a room in a houseshare.

The politicians who have allowed this travesty to escalate over the past 40 years are the problem and should be hung from lampposts, thank god someone is throwing out some ideas that don't just pander to free market legalised immorality and greed.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:08 pm
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NO RanD0m C@Ps Locks
Too coherent in places
Not angry enough
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Posted : 19/06/2017 7:09 pm
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See "Compulsory Purchase Order".


 
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**** !
For the record I like some of the labour policies but corbyn utter twunt
Just because the bloke (JC not Jesus Christ) is soft spoken it does not mean he is logical. Listen carefully you will be amazed at how much those soft spoken words hypnotise you. ๐Ÿ˜†

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So people made homeless by a fire shouldn't be rehomed temporarily in properties nearby that are being purposely left empty? Seems like a bonza idea to me.
Thou shall not take what is not given especially if the properties have owners ... regardless. ๐Ÿ˜›


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:12 pm
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I do enjoy Mr Geezer's posts.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:13 pm
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Could not agree more OP

He used the word OCCUPY

Bascially he is inciting breaking and entering


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:13 pm
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Except that the context was that people displaced by the fire Grenfell Tower should be housed in empty properties.

No wonder this country is divided and a hotbed of hatred if we're peddled lie after lie in the press.

[edit] Better to ensure that those who are massively well off aren't inconvenienced in any way just in case they might engage with their own conscience once in a while, eh?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:15 pm
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He did not say seize houses/property at any point. Seize was the word used by The Dirty Diggers broadsheet to see the debate skewed.


 
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See "Compulsory Purchase Order".

Yup thats fine. Can and will be challenged in court and highly likely any attempt would be thrown out

Whats the funniest is that with Osbourne's new stamp duty rates the Council would be spending more money on that than renting places which just shows how ridiculous Corbyn's ill thought out statement was


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:16 pm
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Knew it wouldn't be long before all the Tory apologists popped up to have a pop at Jezza ๐Ÿ˜† calm down dears, or do you all have property portfolios in Kensington that you're now worried about?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:17 pm
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Taking people property away if it's deemed you shouldn't have it

You do know that the act (2004) says that the original owners will be fully recompensed for the property?

They're not 'taking people property away', they're buying it from them (compulsorily, I'll admit) at market rates.


 
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@Sandwhich he said OCCUPY - thats seizure


 
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What do you expect from a communist, Jambalaya.


 
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@anjantom I lived in K&C for 18 months when I did not need space for my now grown up family, most of my carrer I could not afford it. People thinking they have a right to live in the Borough are taking the micky


 
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I'm having a seizure, that's? for sure.


 
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He used the word OCCUPY

Interesting word that. Care to remind us of your views on Israel and Palestine?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:20 pm
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Jesus. My faith in humanity has just hit a low.


 
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Knew it wouldn't be long before all the Tory apologists popped up to have a pop at Jezza calm down dears, or do you all have property portfolios in Kensington that you're now worried about?
Are you contradicting [b][u]thou shall not take what is not given[/u][/b]? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

Where is the common decency to ask for permission first? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:21 pm
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We're through the looking glass here people.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:22 pm
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I think he may have a point, but he phrased it terribly!

There several investment companies & high net worth individuals who've purchased a good number of properties with no other intention than using them as a "land-bank ". I feel these are the properties he has in mind.

Pied a terres are a different matter - though I imagine there aren't many on STW who have such things, let alone in W8?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:25 pm
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My initial reaction agrees to a great extent as property your belongs to you. I assume that those who disagree are happy to lend an expensive rarely used bike to a stranger then.
You can't have one rule for you and one rule for people you are jealous of.
However dialling things back a bit (sorry, this is totally against and STW political view point I know) If private property owners were encouraged at no loss to themselves to help out then a bit of coercion would be fine. My view is that with something like houses, they should be inviolate for a while but after a set period then purchase at a independently agree price should imposed. At all levels.
Any form of outburst that even hints of law breaking should be punished be the speaker a yob or a politician. But that's just good manners really.


 
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Respect for property rights is a fundamental requirement for economic prosperity.

Corbyn know that - hes not stupid - but he also know plenty of others will happily swallow populist guff. That's a powerful trump (opps) card right now irrespective of party politics.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:27 pm
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I am going to use this word and the word is "REACTIONARY".


 
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@anjantom I lived in K&C for 18 months when I did not need space for my now grown up family, most of my carrer I could not afford it. People thinking they have a right to live in the Borough are taking the micky

@jumblesale, so people born in the borough who live in council and/or rented accommodation should just **** off and make way for the rich people? Where would all the teachers, nurses, care home assistants, fire men, policemen, cleaners, bus drivers, et al come from then? You know the people that actually keep the place running.

Are you contradicting thou shall not take what is not given?

Is that a made up bible quote?
How about Though shall not be an uptight right wing apologist who hates poor people?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:29 pm
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I like this:

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Posted : 19/06/2017 7:33 pm
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I lived in K&C for 18 months when I did not need space for my now grown up family, most of my carrer I could not afford it.

How did you manage?


 
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Is that a made up bible quote?
Not from the Bible ajan. ๐Ÿ˜€
How about Though shall not be an uptight right wing apologist who hates poor people?
Nothing to do with the status of the people.
It is about taking something without being given the permission. ๐Ÿ˜›


 
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I like this:

Ah, thanks, I was just looking for that and couldn't find it.

Any comments, OP?


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:45 pm
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So when the country is broke and on its knees which would happen if corbyn had his way - would it be right if you had savings and the government took them away? I can see all of you being really happy about that !


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:46 pm
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He used the word OCCUPY

Did he? Where / when? Source / link please.


 
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โ€œOccupy it, compulsory purchase it, requisition it. Thereโ€™s a lot of things you can do,โ€ Mr Corbyn said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grenfell-tower-fire-latest-jeremy-corbyn-attacks-kensington-council-lack-of-resources-a7795656.html


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:49 pm
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Here you go the interview clip ... The Guardian ... your favourite newspaper. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

[b]"Labour says emergency house seizure laws could ease Grenfell Tower crisis" [/b]: The Guardian.

" ... occupy it, compulsory purchase it, requisition it ... " ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

[url= https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/18/labour-emergency-house-seizure-laws-could-ease-grenfell-tower-crisis-john-mcdonnell ]The Guardian.[/url]


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:51 pm
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He used the word OCCUPY
Bascially he is inciting breaking and entering

Liar.


 
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Can't be bothered to find a facepalm gif, can we just pretend I did?


 
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The house my family lived in was compulsory-purchased to make room for a railway line.

Compulsory-purchasing empty flats so that people can live in them (temporarily), seems fair to me - with the added benefit that the original owner could potentially be re-united with their (investment) property...


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:53 pm
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THM - I thought you'd left the forum?

Is disappoint.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:53 pm
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Bascially he is inciting breaking and entering

**** sake how did you come up with that conclusion?


 
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Maybe some of us could come at it from a different perspective?

[s]Taking people[/s] [i]Borrowing[/i] property [s]away[/s] if it's deemed [s]you shouldn't have it[/s] [i]it could really help somebody in desperate times through no fault of their own[/i]


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 7:59 pm
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Guy on the radio nailed it this morning, when they said they couldn't just requisition property, they don't mind doing it to Alzheimers victims to pay for their social care.


 
Posted : 19/06/2017 8:00 pm
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How does this compare to say Tesco getting compulsory purchase orders so that they can knock down the homes that people actually live in to build a store?

I think rehoming the survivors of last weeks fire should be a higher priority than building big steel sheds. Hopefully this will also shine a more critical light on a housing market in the UK which is failing a huge number of people.


 
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