Cougar isn't the only one, I have never heard rice used as an "anti-Chinese trope".
It also says that rice is most usually vomiting and diahorrea most often other foods.
Are you sure that you read your Wikipedia supplied information correctly? I was always under the impression that food poisoning generally triggered both vomiting and diarrhoea as the body desperately tries to expell poisonous and toxic substances?
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It was meant with sincerity, genuinely one of the loneliest scariest 48hrs of my life.
I just posted it as heartfelt advice that you CAN get awful awful food poisoning from rice, as in, 'it's not a myth'.
I've had it. I'm careful. If asked, I'd advise others to exercise caution.
I'm still not really sure what your issue is.
This isn't about rice is it. 😂
Also, portion sizes, surely too much is just right!
Cold takeaway breakfast, mmmmm
I’ve never associated rice’s propensity for food poisoning with anti-Chinese racism either. Surely rice is a ubiquitous food around the world and it’s possible deleterious effects after storage is due to its massive surface area for bad stuff to grow on?
Having said that now I think about it, it is possible that the stupidest stuck in the 70s British moron might be considering rice as foreign muck.
If we have fish n chips for 3 we usually get 3 fish & 1 large chips, it's always plenty.
Our recent revelation was to get them on a Thursday when the chippy is quieter than a Friday or Saturday and so less rushed. Much better quality
On the rare occasion we have takeaway we always order one meal for 2
I’m still not really sure what your issue is.
Yeah it's a little strange. I have been considering the possibility that thecaptain might own a Chinese takeaway. It would certainly help to explain the apparent sensitivity to the subject.
Although the username would obviously be more appropriate for a fish n chips establishment.
Chips reheated in the microwave? What has become of this forum?
Well that didn't go the way I expected when started the thread, I'd kinda expected a split between people lambasting and defending fat people, certainly didn't expect accusations of racism and a detailed discussion on micro biology. STW never ceases to entertain, educate and baffle in equal measure.
Well that didn’t go the way I expected when started the thread
Expect the unexpected!
Ok here with portion size but I don’t order any bread or chips.
Only time I don’t finish is when I order a starter, I’ll split the main and reheat the rest next day.
Fish and chips generally get polished off no bother.
Having spent a lot of time in hotels before the lockdown, I'd say it's buffets in general you need to be wary of. However, it does help keep the weight down if you like to pig out, a bit like unsolicited bulimia.
Chips reheated in the microwave? What has become of this forum?
This is all kinds of wrong.
As is reheating any of lasts night take away for breakfast. Surely you just eat it cold out of the container it arrived in because you're so greedy that you can't be arsed to wait for 2 minutes in the microwave. Or is that just me?
@Cougar, if you’ve never heard the rice thing used as an anti-Chinese trope, then I’m genuinely happy for you. Surprised, but happy.
Whether I have or I haven't is by the by, the hill you've chosen to die on is seemingly "it's a myth that you can get food poisoning from reheating leftover rice, when in fact you can get food poisoning from leftover rice for a slightly different reason."
I don’t get the mentality of saving leftovers for another meal.
Takeaways are an expensive treat, having half your money go towards a reheated soggy lunch seems miserable.
Of course, if you’ve tried a new place and over ordered, it is at times unavoidable. But fool me once and all that.
It's not about ordering for the purpose of having leftovers, rather it's nice to have a mix of dishes with the corollary that you then have leftovers. Curry and chinese taste better the next day anyway, I wouldn't do it with chips, my Nandos was tongue in cheek but left over chicken that can be sliced into a salad or a sandwich isn't soggy.
Indian; never enough meat but the temptation to order and eat a nan each can disguise that. We never order a rice each though.
Chinese; generally about the right size for one. Noodle dishes can also suffer from a lack of meat/prawns.
Chippy; portions seem to have gotten larger since boxes became a thing. I'm sure they were smaller when they were just wrapped in paper. Mrs S will order a "child/OAP" sized fish portion if available.
Pizza; annoyingly local pizzas are too large for one, not enough for two and my wife doesn't eat meat so we end up with two anyway. Two between three works fine.
FWIW I don't have an Off Switch for tasty food.
Rice as an anti-Chinese racist trope; What are you smoking?
I like a special fish, can't do battered as more often than not it sits on the hot plate going soggy
Usually a bit of Indian left over these days, used to polish a whole one off no problem in the past.
I think I've gradually learnt not to scoff the whole yummy lot, as I know I'll feel like crap after. Chinese, even worse, chippy too.
I'm not sure if it's the bolus of rancid oil that does it, but it seems like it may be that.
Anyone getting sick from reheated haggis next weekend best be on the lookout for being labelled anti Jock too! You've been warned.
Takeaways are an expensive treat, having half your money go towards a reheated soggy lunch seems miserable.
Throwing it out is more wasteful, no?
Anyone getting sick from reheated haggis next weekend best be on the lookout for being labelled anti Jock too! You’ve been warned.
Isn't "Jock" a bit racist?
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Bigger the better for me, if portion sizes were reduced you can guarantee prices wouldn't reduce as well. I'll eat what I want and leftovers the nxt day including any rice.
My local chippy does kebab meat with chips and salad in a tray. It weights over 2 lbs. That gets cut in half tray an all for two meals.
I like a special fish, can’t do battered as more often than not it sits on the hot plate going soggy
Our local chippy only cooks to order now. I think that's a bit of a hangover from the Covid measures when numbers of customers dropped off and a desire to reduce wastage.
5However, having worked in a chippy, I'd say that for every one person that wants freshly cooked, there are five who are just impatient at having to wait. Some aggressively so. Stocking up just before pub closing time is pretty common though. There's little worse than queues of drunken customers and the occasional ensuing brawl
Portion size is about right in the UK tbh compare to those in my part of the world.
But then it is not a tradition, in my part of the world, to order starter or desert because that's more of a western thing. I can never understand why there need to be a "three course" meal.
Most takeaways or eatery only offer main dish and you can have as many as you like, partly because starter is jut a waste of money and it is meant to "keep people busy" in larger restaurant before the mains arrive. Starter to us is a snack in between main meals, or as mum used to say "stop eating junks" before main meals.
Also drinking water while eating the main meal is never encouraged coz we have "watery" soup for that. Drinking water while having the main meal is normally reserved for those countryside folks after a day of hardwork in the field. City folks who are more educated do not drink water while having their main meals. Small cup of tea, yes but that is only meant for eating greasy food. Drinking alcohol is getting common in mainland China because majority of them are "labour" background. You know not as refined. LOL!
Anyway, drinking water etc ... nobody cares nowadays as people have forgotten the tradition when they are rich enough to consume as they wish.
No pudding?
No pudding?
You mean desert? LOL!
They are meant for 3pm indulgence or as some of my friends used to call it, it's time for skiving at the eatery (shop that is not restaurant but server meals and drinks) while having verbal diarrhea. LOL!
Only a proper, normally expensive, restaurant serve starters, mains and deserts. Normal eatery just serves mains. At 3pm you get all sorts of desserts and most tend to specialise.
Also those mainland Chinese eating with their mouth open and making noises are simply rude tbh. That's also a sign of people with less refined background. LOL!
However, that's different for Japanese or Korean because that's a sign of appreciating chef prowess in producing delicious food. Once my Japanese and Korean friends eating in that way and they nearly put me off my meal. Nearly smack them in their head to tell them to keep quiet. LOL!
P/s: yes, keep the rice refrigerated for fried rice. We never leave it at room temperate until the next day. Not a good idea when the weather is hot
@ernielynch, it's here under "pathogenesis"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_cereus#Pathogenesis
It's just wikipedia, might not be right, but I'd believe it over wives tales spread on random forums.
I haven't eaten anything but sips of warm soup all week due to tonsillitis.
This thread isn't helping.
So. Hungry.
OK some conjecture about the Chinese thing.
If you think about it, fried rice is one of the dishes where the rice issue might arise. Good fried rice is made from previously cooked rice that was not overcooked (so the spores are more likely to survive?) nor too wet and is a bit old. In restaurant sized quantities it could spend a while in the risky temperature zone unless active steps are taken to avoid it. With other dishes you can probably get away with more.
So far as I can recall from the dim and distant when standards were lower than today (probably*), chinese restaurants were not the only culprits when it came to food poisoning/ tummy bug issues, but they were among the culprits. And if there was an issue with the rice on a particular evening, many folk will have got ill (possibly hospital ill) and the restaurant will be a common factor, sometimes leading to a prosecution and publicity. Whereas equally lax practices at your local Italian might not cause an issue- never heard of risotto poisoning but that might be because the rice variety and cooking method rules it out. Unless it had shellfish in it. My parents had a rule never to have shellfish when eating out because of so much anecdata linking it to issues. That was the 1960s though, they later relented.
*I think some scary stuff still goes on, but overall things are better now.
The comparison with shellfish is interesting. I do not know a single person who eats raw oysters, who has not been ill as a result, often several times.
Not that I go around regularly asking oyster-eating history, but that's from random family and acquaintances when it's happened. Perhaps there are plenty here who have eaten them frequently with no ill-effects.
Of course I'm sure the Chinese restaurant poisoning thing has happened from rice. All sorts of poisoning from restaurants and other caterers/manufacturers is hardly uncommon, with a wide range of causes. But the idea that rice, uniquely, has to be binned is just a complete myth that's grown out of all proportion to the risk which is negligible if you chill and reheat competently.
Surely you just eat it cold out of the container it arrived in
Cold chicken curry for breakfast. Mmmmmmm.
Well if you are rice-paranoid, it may be the heavy metals that you should be concerned with.
The recommended cooking method looks likely to produce soggy rice unless you are vigilant though.
I like a raw oyster occasionally, but only from a seaside fishmonger with a direct link to the farm, eaten on the spot. Never had a prob with that, though shellfish in general has got me on a few occasions. Cooked oysters are apparently notorious, but you don't see them on menus much. Did you know that steak and kidney pie is a poor man's steak and oyster pie? (According to my late mum, grandad was in the catering trade. So quite possibly bollocks.)
You mean desert?
Bit dry for my tastes.
+1 for never hearing the reheated rice thing as a racist trope. It states not to reheat it on packaging, etc. Another issue is that a lot of places pre-cook the rice then warm it up for your order. (Or is that racist too?!)
. I do not know a single person who eats raw oysters, who has not been ill as a result, often several times.
I do not know a single person who has been ill from eating raw oysters.
But the idea that rice, uniquely, has to be binned
Never heard that until now.
Did you know that steak and kidney pie is a poor man’s steak and oyster pie?
I thought it was the other way round - oysters were once considered a poor man's food? Presumably based on the fact that they can be collected for free.
Who TF says rice has to be binned?
I think you're hanging around with some ricists.
I'm partial to a portion of chips and mushy peas - as a complete meal (salt, vinegar and brown sauce as essential accompaniment not withstanding) - fussy vegan* so not much on the menu for the 'showpiece' and chips are awesome regardless. Whilst that's doesn't really represent a nutritional complete meal - it's a meal from a chippy, so you're ****ed anyhow on that score.
Small chips - probably enough calories/damage, but doesn't really hit the spot.
Large chips - often enough to feel a bit sick, but it's the law to eat them all so what you gonna do?
* So wish chippies that like to stick with their frying in beef dripping traditions would make a song and dance about it so you didn't have to ask.....no one likes a fussy eater in a chippy so it gets you off on the wrong footing. And you meat eaters must be into it or they wouldn't bother so you'd have thought it would be good for marketing. For reasons that make little sense I'm ok with my chips being fried in the same veg oil as the fish and other flesh derivatives, but fried in beef dripping is crossing my ike line.
Who TF says rice has to be binned?
I think you’re hanging around with some ricists.
If you find that shocking you wait 'til you hear that some people believe you can make rice out of cauliflower. I kid you not.
Don't bin it, get some rice in.
Captain Wales, is that you?
Surely you just eat it cold out of the container it arrived in
Cold chicken curry for breakfast. Mmmmmmm
Cold pizza is the breakfast of champions!
I always order a mahoosive (mighty meaty with added doner meat) pizza from our local place knowing there’s no way I’ll finish it, so that’s tomorrow’s breakfast sorted 🙂
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm… cold pizza…
I used to eat blood clam raw in bucket load. Love them.
But very toxic to the body as I found out because I started getting serious pimples on my back after one week. Took several years to neutralise the toxic.
Who TF says rice has to be binned?
Did you read as far as the 3rd post in this thread, or just skip to the bottom and post first?
Did you read as far as the 3rd post in this thread, or just skip to the bottom and post first?
Yes. Can’t see where they said to bin it though.
