The only problem I can see is I don't speak Syrian? Could you parachute me in with a translator? Do I get Bashir's palaces?
Give me a week or so to sort my beard out....
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Ask the rest of the world, what they think of the peoples of the capitalist corporate west, what do you think they will say?
So we ask them, and whatever they say is correct right ?
Ask the rest of this forum what they think of your endless waffle, What do you think they will say ?
And whatever they say must be correct ..... right ?
If [b]we[/b] cannot have elections then how about sending in a peace keeping force, this has to be a better strategy than supporting and arming terrorists?
Don't you live in Edinburgh? If so what's all this we not gertting elections crap? Westminster elections, euro elections, Holyrood elections, local councillors, fk me you never stop having the opportunity to vote.
Or have you moved to Syria and are now marketing your bearings as bomb bits instead of bike bits?
And whatever they say must be correct ..... right ?
FFS neal will you pay attention
IT WILL ONLY BE REAL ONCE IT IS ON YOUTUBE
Think its time to watch AlJazeera, Russian News and something from China to see bigger picture. Kesae is a bit extreme in some discussions but its entertaining to read some mocking about.
An interesting question comes to mind from this thread.
Has anyone ever caught their dogs looking at pictures of cats on the internet ?
Ok, I will add a bit of mine...
What would happen if Russians supported Welsh and Scots to overthrow British government, and do so with Hollywood style violence? To see through their interests, while all Asia, Middle East and other continents feed on bull shaft media etc.
Wow I am good apprentice of kesae.
When you 'Ask the rest of the World' do you mean all six billion or whatever of them, 'cos that might take a while. Perhaps we could just ask you, and you could answer objectively on their behalf?
We need a fair and impartial solution to the problem, regime change by arming terrorists is a bad idea!
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9107114698
Even those who oppose Bashar are against what is happening and everyone knows that there are large numbers of terrorists operating in Syria. The news has been reporting it for months, are you saying the terrorists are in Syria to help out? Al Qaeda holiday tours maybe 😯
From the very start the Syrian government have made it clear that there were and are large numbers of terrorists involved in this, just like Libya.
Giving terrorists state of the art weapons including shoulder mounted surface to air missiles and training them in assassination and gorilla warfare techniques is a bad idea.
Don't worry about any of that though, just remember this BASHAR MUST GO. BASHAR, BASHAR, BASHAR 😯
We know the truth, the god called TV has spoken to us!
and how exactly is waffling away on a relatively obscure UK bike forum going to change anything? Do tell.
Gee Kaesae, thanks for your wondrous insights yet again
Good of you to link to an Iranian website, as the world knows the free press in Iran is the most unrestricted in the world
Oh, no hang on...
In Iran (175th), hounding and humiliating journalists has been part of officialdom’s political culture for years. The regime feeds on persecution of the media.
http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2011-2012,1043.html
You could of course try some of the following for your "research" and perhaps even... dare I say it.. do something worthwhile
http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/subsection/0,,884056,00.html
Saudi Arabia had mass rallies for democracy and change much larger than Syria, the Saudi government put those down ruthlessly. The same goes for Bahrain, where protesting is illegal.
and Qatar.
These however have been completely over looked by the media, what about human rights for these people? the simple fact is what we are seeing is the newest form of WAR mongering.
Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar the US and all the other outside political influences involved, do not care about the Syrian people.
What happened in Libya and what is happening in Syria is simply regime change!
Again, I'll ask the question, more in hope of an answer than in expectation....
How exactly is waffling away on a relatively obscure UK bike forum going to change anything? Do tell.
Musical interlude
Kael-- get your little ass out of your chair-- and go meet with a like minded group, there are a number around the country, face to face not keyboard bollox, its hard going but you might feel a bit better and less frustrated.
I guess it explains why it's so quite in UK (terrorist alerts). Most of them are well fed and given special tasks elsewhere, that's why no more BS in UK. Clever politicians n all that.
Saudi Arabia had mass rallies for democracy and change much larger than Syria, the Saudi government put those down ruthlessly. The same goes for Bahrain, where protesting is illegal.These however have been completely over looked by the media, what about human rights for these people? the simple fact is what we are seeing is the newest form of WAR mongering.
kaesae - just to summarise for you. Its all fairly simple....
Regimes that we sell arms too = good guys [b]YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!![/b]
Regimes the Russians sell arms too = bad guys [b]BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!![/b]
My honest reaction to seeing this thread today was "Ya Dancer!" needed my thursday lunchtime brightening up.
Kaesae
From the very start [b]the Syrian government have made it clear[/b] that there were and are large numbers of terrorists involved in this, just like Libya.
Wow! and you think we are fools for beleiving the independant media...
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I have to admit, I'm a little bit disappointed by The K meisters trolling on this thread. Not up to his usual standards IMHO.
His ability to ignore repeated simple and direct questions however, remains joyously undiminished.
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, DUMB DUMB, DUUMMBB!
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/20/special-report-investigates-timeline-of-terror-in-benghazi/
Same organized groups who fought in Libya are now in Syria, the Muslim brotherhood. Just a coincidence?
Aaaaaaaaaaah - the last bastion of free speech, and fiercely independent non-bias journalism... Fox 'News'
Its not really surprising though, is it? All Muslims are the same anyway aren't they? Angry, shouty, sometimes explodey, beardy blokes? And women who think its a halloween party all year round, and who've come as a ghost
kaesae - MemberDumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, DUMB DUMB, DUUMMBB!
can't really argue with that
gorilla warfare techniques
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foxnewsinsider
Because nothing says anti-media like News Corp.
Come on kaesae if you're going to troll at least be moderately consistent.
As already stated, do try to keep up at the back!
Every source presented should then be investigated to see if the information can be verified.
If Bashar has no support how do you explain this?
Having spent hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars it must really suck when all that you've accomplished is to make the support for Bashar so much stronger globally.
Hahahaha and HA!
[quote=keasae] As already stated,[b] do try to keep up at the back![/b]
I do believe the CFH has asked you a question (twice) and yet no answer yet for some reason.
"Do try to keep up at the back" 🙄
As for the treatment of the people who live in the area's captured by terrorists.
Here's the sanitized version via algazeera
Open you eyes and you shall see!
Same organized groups who fought in Libya are now in Syria, the Muslim brotherhood. Just a coincidence?
the Muslim Brotherhood", transliterated: al-?i?w?n al-muslim?n) is the Arab world's most influential[1] and one of the largest Islamic movements,[2] and is the largest political opposition organization in many Arab states
yes who would have thought the largest opposition group in those two countries were involved in the opposition - it sure is a conspiracy.
Muslim Brotherhood in Syria was founded in the 1930s (according to lexicorient.com) or in 1945, a year before independence from France, (according to journalist Robin Wright (author)). In the first decade or so of independence it was part of the legal opposition, and in the 1961 parliamentary elections it won ten seats (5.8% of the house). [b]But after the 1963 coup that brought the Baath Party to power it was banned.[/b][62] It played a major role in the mainly Sunni-based movement that opposed the secularist, pan-Arabist Baath party. This conflict developed into an armed struggle that continued until culminating in the Hama uprising of 1982, when the rebellion was crushed by the military.[63]Membership in the Syrian Brotherhood became a capital offence in Syria in 1980 (under Emergency Law 49, which was revoked in 2011), but the headquarters of the MB-linked Palestinian group, Hamas, is located in the Syria's capital Damascus, where it is given Syrian government support. This is seen by some as an example of the lack of international centralisation or even coordination of the MB.[64]
The brotherhood is said to have "resurrected itself" and become "dominant group" in the opposition during the Syrian civil war against the Assad regime according to the Washington Post newspaper
so his party got power by coup and he got it by inheriting it from daddy and now, despite him ignoring the democratic movement, not having fair elections and killing his own people for some reason - frankly even for you it is unfathomable - you wish to defend his right to continue oppressing his people whilst suggesting we are all DUMB 😯
If Bashar has no support how do you explain this?
I dont think anyone would say he has no support - he seems to be able to get the army to do stuff at his behest.
Given what has occurred I dont see why you think he has no opposition - unless of course it is because you want to ignore the facts or the [s]hard[/s] any questions which is your usual method.
You keep saying terrorists when accusing of us of being brainwashed.
I really feel sorry for you K and hope you are playing a role, if not you do seem to be in need of some help with your critical thinking
Could you at least explain why he has a legitimate right to rule and why you oppose democracy there and support him and his regime?
....frankly even for you it is unfathomable - you wish to defend his right to continue oppressing his people whilst suggesting we are all DUMB
This quite sums up this thread brilliantly !
Kaesae, Even by your own dire standards, this thread really does show you to be a complete muppet.
Try joined up thinking, it might help.
Isn't it illegal to keep flogging a dead horse?
Actually junkyard I would say that is your method, to only see what you want to see.
The majority of those fighting in Syria against the government are terrorists from other countries on a jihad, as has been stated since the beginning of the conflict by the government.
Which was of course denied by the western corporate capitalist media at first, however since the evidence for the terrorists being there is now irrefutable it has been taken up by the media.
First there were no terrorists, then it was OK to have terrorists groups because they were fighting against Bashar.
You believe what ever the media tells you too believe, regardless of the facts.
Regardless of the car bombs, regardless of the massacres, regardless of the Syrian people rallying in support of Bashar al Assad in groups numbering over 1 million people. Regardless of the constant aggression from the government of Turkey, who have been arming, training and shielding the terrorist groups.
The entire world knows what is happening in Syria, but not the brain washed zombie apocalypse that makes up the west, you still haven't woken up to the fact that the same scum bags that own the oil companies and the arms companies as well as the banks and most of the global corporations also own the media.
Wake up! this was an attempt at regime change that has more likely than not failed.
It's just a pity that the world woke up too late to save Libya!
So according to Kaesea, (who seems to live in Scotland)
Syria is [b]"WE"[/b]
And
The West is [b]"YOU"[/B]
You certainly are one seriously confused fella 😐
We is free people who can think for our selves all over the world.
You would be the brain washed zombie apocalypse members, walking around with their head up their own arses, which by this point after years of doing so, should be quite comfortable for them!
Actually junkyard I would say that is your method, to only see what you want to see.
Well I have given you the facts why not counter them with something tangible
as i keep saying to you you give to others all the things you do.
The majority of those fighting in Syria against the government are terrorists, as has been stated since the beginning of the conflict by the government.
Ah so an impartial source then - FFS read what you said above then read that and have a think if you can
You believe what ever the media tells you too believe, regardless of the facts.
Your attacks are ridicolous you have been given facts about how the conflict started, how he got power and how he has maintained it. Whatever source you choose to use it is not in dispute hence why you dont comment but do this drivel instead.
Again I hope you are trolling because if not your powers of analysis are such that you seem to have little grip on reality and filter everything through some hatred of the west - for sure it does some terrible things but if you think Assad is not then frankly you need help
there are a few questions left for you to answer whilst using pejorative language like terrorism and using the oppressive ruler as your source Its quite tragic and I am leaving these as i do think you seem to have some "issues"
I wish you well with them
You're a very funny man. You manage to combine the intellectual rigor of a steaming pile of horse crap with the self righteous rantings of a religious fanatic. Hard to pull off, but you manage it.
It's simple junkyard I will go slowly, from the beginning the government in Syria have claimed that those they were fighting were terrorists just like in Libya.
The western media and the people who's perceptions they control, all went along with the fact and believed there were no terrorists fighting in Syria, however now there is too much evidence to even try and deny this fact any more. So the story has changed and the terrorists who are not even Syrian but come from lots of different countries, are now portrayed as the good guys.
Good little terrorists who simply went to Syria on a Jihad holiday armed to the teeth just in case. No matter what the terrorists do they are still portrayed by the media as the good guys, helping to free the Syrian people from the oppression of Bashar Al Assad.
I'm not saying the Syrian government are perfect, but a lot of the crimes they are being blamed for were committed by the terrorists and that is a fact!
We is [s]free people who can think for our selves all over the world.[/s]
Disciples of the worlds biggest bullshitter Alex Jones.
You would be [s]the brain washed zombie apocalypse members, walking around with their head up their own arses, which by this point after years of doing so, should be quite comfortable for them! [/s] all the people who are capable of rational thought, and make their own minds up about things and dont rely on being spoon fed bullshit by people like Alex Jones
from the beginning the government in Syria have claimed that those they were fighting were terrorists just like in Libya.
You mean they did not describe them as pro democracy protesters
Why is it described as
The uprising, which was inspired by the Arab Spring Revolutions, began as a chain of peaceful protests around the country for democracy and political freedom, which was immediately followed by a government crackdown whereby the Syrian Army was deployed to quell the uprising, and several cities were besieged as a result.[
Of course he is not saying my people wanted democracy but i shot them like dogs in the streets.
it is beyond stupidity to accept his view whilst telling us all we are brainwashed.
You believe what the media are saying if it makes sense or not and do not even question it enough to verify the facts.
What exactly do you call that?
Google BBC caught lying about Syria and see what you find or you can simply believe what ever you feel like!
[quote=kaasea, with fingers in ears] La La La , I'm not listening, La La La , I'm not listening , La La La , I'm not listening, La La La , I'm not listening etc etc.
Mmmmm, good point.
Your winning me over actually.
I refer you to my earlier point
Your attacks are ridicolous you have been given facts about how the conflict started, how he got power and how he has maintained it. Whatever source you choose to use it is not in dispute hence why you dont comment but do this drivel instead.
somewhere a village is missing it's idiot 😯
CaptainFlashheart - Member
Again, I'll ask the question, more in hope of an answer than in expectation....How exactly is waffling away on a relatively obscure UK bike forum going to change anything? Do tell.
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That was my joke about the Sunshine Band, and thanks, I was quite proud of that.
However, we really need to stop arguing with the crazy person, it doesn't help and contributes to validating the nonsense, further blurring the boundary between real and imagined. Quite sad.
And Kaesae mate, I mean this out of genuine concern, but you need to get out more.
