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After years of the average car getting more economical the popularity of the SUV has reversed that trend. Just when the climatic deniers have lost their grip on the media so even Kevin and Tracy are aware that burning fossil fuels is not good, the SUV takes off. Powered by all those stupid family adventure ads filmed in wildernesses from Scotland to Spain, and hipsters driving their urban 4X4s in deserted urban landscapes where all the traffic lights are green.

If you can see through the advertising bollocks and buy your car on objective criteria you probably won’t buy one but you might, they’re your criteria.

Funny that the rise in CO2 levels also coincided with the whole VW diesel farago and sales of diesel cars dropping like a stone in favour of petrol cars, which as everyone knows, are both less fuel-efficient and have higher CO2 emissions...


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 8:18 pm
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The currently family wagon is a Passat estate. It swallows a huge amount of stuff,

+1 Try getting a cello in a hard case in the boot of an SUV with the back seats up.


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 8:25 pm
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On a local level you have a point Countzero but when you look at the world market for petrol and diesel the argument doesn't hold up. You can change the proportions slightly in cracking but in the end a large part of refined oil ends up as fuel and is ultimately burned so the amount of CO2 remains about the same. What changes is what is burned where and how much more fuel is burned moving it around.

In Europe we were stupid favouring diesels with our tax regimes because they have been far worse for for our health when if we'd burnt more petrol here we'd have reduced the world level of heavy fuel oil being burned and done nothing to increase the world levels of CO2. European refineries have been producing an excess of petrol which has been exported in tankers using heavy fuel oil to places with less tax on petrol.

It's crazy but we've been exporting petrol to the US for years so they can run their V8s that conform to Californian NOX regs and poison each other less than we do. If we hadn't their petrol wouldn't have been so cheap and they'd have used less of it and perhaps more diesel.

https://www.reuters.com/article/europe-gasoline-exports/u-s-thirst-for-european-gasoline-stalls-casting-shadow-on-demand-idUSL8N1JQ29L


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 8:50 pm
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Wait til you lot hear about the eco friendly bicycles that we've improved by putting a motor on them....


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 9:11 pm
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Does an AMG G63 count?


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 10:08 pm
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It's modern car seats, not the prams, that drive some parents too suv to fit 3 kids in. I'm still stunned I can't fit 3 in my Octavia.


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 10:11 pm
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Shoulda got a Jimny 🤡


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 10:27 pm
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Some women like big things,nothing you can do about it.


 
Posted : 07/06/2020 10:51 pm
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We had a Kuga and it was decent enough in a white goods kind of way. Preferred the Focus it replaced though and if it was my choice I’d have bought an estate. My wife now has a Discovery Sport which is a lovely thing and very practical. No desire to swap it for an estate.

Punto? Meh.


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 12:04 am
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Wait til you lot hear about the eco friendly bicycles that we’ve improved by putting a motor on them….

Improved as in... Increased the emissions?

Awesumz


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 10:44 am
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Today we had to replace Mrs Spanner’s Punto.

I dislike this sentence


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 11:28 am
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My current car is an Alfa Stelvio SUV, they don't make a Gulia estate and I wanted something more practical than a saloon for bikes and stuff. It's a great car but I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to tell me I'm killing the planet.


 
Posted : 08/06/2020 2:19 pm
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Well, it's not as bad as I expected.
In fact, apart from actually being an SUV, It's ace.

I swore very loudly when pricing up tyres, but apart from that it's a nice car.

Very comfy and unlike the Juke, Sportage, Kona, Tucson etc has decent rear visibility and lots of very usable space.

To drive, reminds me of the old Doblo - nice seating position, easy access, no obvious flaws. Miss all the clever storage though.

Shame about the stupidly large wheels.
Alloys and low profile tyres on a car like this are about as much use as a small plasticene rhinoceros in a shipwreck.
The ground clearance will come in very useful in Aldi car park and it looks like a Range Rover designed by a blind Australian.

She likes it though. 🙂

Motorpoint as painless to deal with as usual and cheaper than anywhere else - 8 grand off list for a 15 month old car with slightly higher than average milage.
Can't fault them.


 
Posted : 23/06/2020 1:30 pm
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plasticene rhinoceros

I think they all died out during the last ice age.


 
Posted : 23/06/2020 2:16 pm
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😃


 
Posted : 23/06/2020 2:19 pm
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Ill swap my Yeti for your Vitara if you don't want it?


 
Posted : 23/06/2020 4:53 pm
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God knows how our parents managed with smaller cars.

three of us climbing round in the back without car seats or seat belts from what I remember.

now my fairly large SUV/estate (Subaru outback) can’t fit three child seats across the back.

I know which I’d rather have though.


 
Posted : 23/06/2020 4:58 pm
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