[Closed] Summer rugby thread

Will you be smug after the Samoa game though?

Hope so - This is a decent team building here for Scotland - and building a team ethos as well that takes us back to the greater than the sum of the parts of a few years ago. Along with some very exciting young players.

If only Robinson had selected this lineup in the 6N ( bar Visser) This team is so much better than the one who played England - and will only get better. This is the bulk of the Scotland players for the next WC.

Can we have Gethin tho? - I am sure he has a Scots Granny. Please? Wouldn't mind Jonathon Davis as well

Wow just checked out the Beeb, and Scotland had a great win against Fiji. Happy days.

How did the other home nations get on?

Can we have Gethin tho? - I am sure he has a Scots Granny. Please? Wouldn't mind Jonathon Davis as well

No. And you can't have a Shingler, either. 😉

Oh, it was FIJI that Scotland beat was it? Wow. Fiji, that renowned 15 a-side nation 😆

Youngs exposed as too slow

Rotter CFH 🙁

Argentina / france stream Lookout for popups and stuff ( close buttons are well hidden) - good medicine advised but i watch 'em all the time without issues

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/56788/1/argentina-vs-france-live-stream-online.html

DezB - Member

Oh, it was FIJI that Scotland beat was it? Wow. Fiji, that renowned 15 a-side nation

that were ranked above Scotland until Scotland beat Aus, that have beaten other top teams such as Wales in the 2007 world cup as well as giving Scotland a cuffing last time they were there

Edit - not above scotland in the rankings I don't think - confusion

I'm just glad we won our series against England...

🙂

Argentina beat France 🙂 Breakaway try 3 mins from the end 23 : 20

deadlydarcy - Member

I meant a competitive Aussie team TeeJ.

15 players the same in the 22 for both games IIRC.

Dear Mr Gatland/Howley,

Could we have:

1/2p
Cuthbert
Davies
Beck
North
Hook
Phillips
Ryan
Tipuric
Lydiate
Evans
AW Jones
Adam
Owens
Gethin

thanks
x

Teej you need to keep perspective Scotland beat a weak aussie team who had only met each other an hour before kick off and the games was played in a monsoon. Then scotland beat what looked to be a very inexperienced Fiji team. If Samoa put out a strong team your lot will struggle. The poorness of the aussies has been highlighted by being pushed all the way by an underperforming and incompetant wales team coupled with a homer ref.

TeeJ, when you've found your sense of humour, let us know.

Gutted for the loss in the last seconds. Who gave the penalty away or was it a homer call?

Was driving to Gatwick to collect Mrs Piggy.

Don't think the AB's have been pushed that hard in a while bravo Ireland.

Heard most of the bawled commentary by that idiot Ian Robertson on the england game, sounds like they were awful in the first half, better in the second then the boks put their foot down again and got the win.

Didnt see who, if any welsman, dropped the maul. Most rage inducing moment was in the second half when Pocock held BDavies down after the tackle and the ref duly pinged him for not rolling away. As Barnes lined up the kick you could clearly hear the ref telling Pocock he had to allow the welsh to roll away! ****inh kiwi ****. That and him pinging Gethin for dropping the scrum, which i suppose he did if you ignore the fact the aussie tighthead was lay on the floor.....

From gwlad gold, best rant ever imo:

ian c**ting robertson_________________________________________...or robinson or whetever the ****er's ****ing name is. what a useless biased useless ****ing **** of a 'commentator' that ****er is.

Just been listening to the 5 live preview of the HEC, starts promisingly name checks the french as the strong sides - obvious, but needs to be said. then starts comparing 'the 2 competitions'

'2 comps' i think to myself as i drive?

the HEC and Guinness premiership of course answers the ****muppet jock. Plenty of namechecks for the english sides, then wanders off into the celtic league for a bit, struggles to remember which countries play in it, gets some details wrong, mentions the welsh as not being contenders to get past the pool stages, not even a mention of the current strength of the Ospreys (no agenda, I am a turk).

then rounds up by saying it'll be the french and english sides doing the business, just like the 6 n where 'it's usually a France/England 1 and 2'. Except when the ****s finish 4th like the last couple of years you useless tweedy kilted monkey felcher.

quick **** over martin corry and then the ****er is done. I've even met the pseudo tartanned quim wipe and he seemed like a decent chap but i was obviously a lot more pissed than i thought.

****ing usleess stupid biased englandrugby loving ****. the ****

AA is pretty much spot on there. Terrible refereeing.

However, we simply weren't good enough to put it away. All it needed was four minutes or so of ball up the jumper Munsteritis, and it was won. We didn't do that.

.

We should have murderated them despite the ref, a lineout would help. Villege idiots the lot of them.

deadlydarcy - Member

TeeJ, when you've found your sense of humour, let us know.

Sorry DD - people keep saying that ( Aus B) and meaning it - its hard to see nuance from a bit of text

See AAs post above.

Anyone get up to watch the Scotland game live? I did and it was worth it for the commentary alone.

Apparently Laidlaw now plays for Glasgow Warriors. I thought we were fairly well covered with Jackson and Weir but maybe we're going to use him as a SH.

Also, Richie Gray has changed his name to Al Kellock and has left Glasgow Warriors to play for Glasgow Rangers.

AA - The welsh penalty was against "16 red" according to the papers.

Sorry DD - people keep saying that ( Aus B) and meaning it - its hard to see nuance from a bit of text

See AAs post above

OK how about australia A?
You need to accept it wasnt their strongest team.

16 red, was that Hibbard or Girafferis. I only saw it once but it looked like it all just fell over to me.

In other ews Woodward giving people advice on the Lions job is just plain funny
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/18460396

Think it was Hibbard - the ref has to pick out someone i suppose. I also picked out it was 16 which gave away the penalty seconds earlier in the aussie 22. Quite rightly tagged onto Priestland's aimless kick, Warbuton/Ryan Jones were less than impressed in post match comments.

You need to accept it wasnt their strongest team.

I'm sorry you all need to accept this is not relevant. If Wales beat France to win the 6N and we all accepted that France had fielded a side which was not their strongest would Wales suddenly not have won the 6N? No. This talk of best teams etc is bollocks. You could pick apart any winning or losing team and make a case that some of the players could have been replaced by others that you think are better. So what, the coach chose who he chose to represent his country, they did not win when wearing their countries colours.

[b]Scotland won. Glory is theirs. End of.[/b]

(It pains me to say this as in all likelyhood Scotland will come home from the summer tour with the feathers and England will probably sulk off in the corner. Wales could yet do something. But this type of chatter is just not Rugby and you are all bringing shame on the game. Give honour where it is due.)

Well your entitled to your opinion but it has no bearing on Wales what Scotland did. Aussie were under strength and poorly prepared and the game was played in a monsoon so I dont think Scotland should be thinking they have suddenly become a good team.

Scotland have lost a lot of games they should have won over the last two years. There comes a point where the only thing that matters is the scoreboard.

Scotland haven't suddenly become a good team. What is happening is that they are finally starting to get the results they have been threatening to get for a long time. I hope that's what's happening anyway.

What is happening is that they are finally starting to get the results they have been threatening to get for a long time.

I'm guessing you're a "glass is half full" kind of person?

Actually, I'm trying to wind in my enthusiasm a bit. Samoa at home in 35deg+ is not my idea of fun.

I dont think Scotland should be thinking they have suddenly become a good team.

They won't win any games if they think they are crap. Confidence is everything. It's a good job their coach is Andy Robinson and not AA. Imagine the conversation.
" Don't go thinking you are any good, you could only beat the Aussies 2nd team, don't bother trying to build on this, you haven't suddenly become a good team."

A team are only as good as the last thing they did, which for them was beating Australia. 😀

A team are only as good as the last thing they did, which for them was beating Australia.

Ooh yes forgot about that, two international wins in a row.

Youngs and Robshaw on the plane back home, btw.

Your quite right Toys, Robinson is doing such a good job.

anagallis_arvensis - Member

Well your entitled to your opinion but it has no bearing on Wales what Scotland did. Aussie were under strength and poorly prepared and the game was played in a monsoon so I dont think Scotland should be thinking they have suddenly become a good team.

It has a huge bearing. Scotland shackled Pocock, Wales did not, Scotland denied Genia and Barnes time and space on the ball, Wales did not. these are not A team players these are the best they had available, the spine of the team and the same players that played against Wales

Scotland have the making of a good team and in some area have better players than Wales. they ain't the finished article yet by any means.

TJ you played in a game where the weather made it a complete lottery, you won and the evidence is that Scotchland is the best Northern Hemisphere team currently. Now settle down and live in the real world 😉

The thing is TJ, I think we (as in other nations) all [i]want[/i] Scotland to be a good side again, competition in the Northern Hemisphere and therefor six nations is a great thing. It's just that one win over Australia, although great, is not enough to make us believe that Scotland are really on the rise. I hope they are though.

The next lions team will be Scotland plus Gethin Jenkins and Jonathan Davies, Sexton, North, Ashton as subs plus a couple of props.

Transapp - I agree really - hence

Scotland [b]have the making[/b] of a good team and in some areas have better players than Wales. they [b]ain't the finished article [/b]yet by any means.

Keep going TeeJ, don't pay any attention to them. It's comedy gold.

DD - Aye - I only said Gethin would get in to keep AA happy 🙂 We didn't even have our hero playing - a true rugby giant YOu know the one - him with teh pie company sponsership and someone elses shorts

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The Scotland trophy cabinet is testament to that.
Brasso not required, only large stocks of cuprinol 😆

What a load of bickering. Sounds like a football thread.

Scotland had a great defensive performance against Australia and narrowly won, we beat a Fijian team and introduced a player in McVisser who looks like he can finish. This is great news for a Scotland fan. We don't think we are going to win the next world cup but we hope we can build on this and win some 6N games next year.

Ireland got thumped by the All Blacks but then play much better in the 2nd game and Wales go close with the Aussies. Both sides have some psoitives to take away. England seemed less cohesive against SA and maybe have stagnated in attack.

This doesn't have to be a love in but seems people are more interested in doing other sides down. If you ain't got anything nice to say keep yer gob shut. We should be happy we are competing with the supposedly superior southern hemisphere sides, a few years ago we would all have been hammered.

Bruk - just a couple of one eyed welshmen 🙂 the rest of us are having good craic