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Can't be as bad as Rugsuckers from Mars...
Yeah, but you get to watch a hot lady walking around in her pants. That is the essential marketing appeal of this film, no?
Yay! just got back from seeing it with my kid. Really enjoyed it, pretty funny, a bit mental, much much better than Batman v Superman. Saw it for free with Lloyds vouchers but wouldn't have minded paying for that one at all.
The end was silly, but they ALWAYS are in superhero films, so to be expected.
davidtaylforth and his buds can't have seen many films really. And obviously not the aforementioned last Batman film!
Recommended, if only for Harley's pants 🙂
Was the only thing on at a suitable time last night, kids were at grandparents, so we went.
Absolutely not my cup of tea, have no interest in superheros, plot won't win any Oscars, but blowing stuff up while wearing your skimpys made it a bearable couple of hours.
Thought the Nolan/Bale batmans were tosh, much preferred Dawn of Justice
😯 Blimey.
Just back from 3D viewing + I've read all the comics = could of been worse but not a patch on 'Deadpool'
3D not worth it and my biggest criticism is that 'dark lighting ? atmospheric'
saw it last night with the wife and both thought it was much better than we expected.
Visually there's a lot to like - plot wise not so much.
Personally I hated the enchantresses voice - hadn't thought that something like that could almost ruin a cinema experience until she started talking and I though Killer Croc needed to be a bigger actor (head was great - body too puny).
Margot is smokin hot, and Waller is a proper mentalist - someone who needs to be in more DC films from now on.
Overall it was a lot of fun (but should've been more like deadpool)
Personally I hated the enchantresses voice
I thought it was perfect - if the director had asked for overblown Joanna Lumley
[url= http://newsthump.com/2016/08/08/hollywood-screenwriters-announce-theyve-finished-writing-the-script-to-suicide-squad/ ]Newsthump[/url] hit the nail on the head for me. Enjoyed it overall but mainly for the soundtrack and the look of it. Plot was a bit pants and all over the place.
Oh yeah, soundtrack - some brilliant choons on there, maybe that was why I enjoyed it so much. 🙂
I don't take my kid to superhero films expecting a decent plot. They're all pretty much the flippin same plot-wise!
well if that's what he asked for jonv - she nailed it
It just didn't work for me
I went in with low expectations but I loved it. It was a lot of fun and there were a lot of explosions. Perfect entertainment.
Jeeeeesus, that Justice League trailer looks dour.
Gal Gadot though... 😀
Can't be as bad as Rugsuckers from Mars...
that's kinda on a par with jesus christ vampire hunter..;-)
I feel like i've been pranked. There's no way that can be a real movie a major studio would release to the public. Genuinely one of the worst i've seen in a while. Horrendous dialogue, just a clunky rhythm, goes from zero to 100 with hardly any set up or explanation. And why the **** can't Holywood write women, or minorities without resorting to shit stereotypes, especially when it comes to minorities dialogue "aw shawty" etc. ****ing rubbish. There were actually some decent scenes and it could have been decent if not excellent. I was actually pissing myself laughing a couple of times during some of the big serious scenes. There's a bit where the sorcerer women is casting some major spell and she looks like a 40 something rhythmless Scottish housewife trying belly dancing for the first time pissed at a resort holiday in Egypt. Hilarious.
I will say the soundtrack was good.
Watched it last night with the wife and we both really enjoyed it. All those whinging about plot etc, have you actually watched any other comic based film? They all have plot holes you could drive a bus through. It's sit back, disengage brain and enjoy the action film. It's not going to win an Oscar!
craigxxlAll those whinging about plot etc, have you actually watched any other comic based film? They all have plot holes you could drive a bus through.
Yeah, whenever I've decided to spend hard earned cash on a trip to the cinema to see a film I set aside any expectations of quality if the film is based on a comic book 🙄
There are good films and bad films. The source material isn't a caveat. If you went to see a film based on a short story would it be acceptable if it was bad? I don't think so. How about an original idea? I mean someone just thought something up, surely it's silly to expect anything good right?
We knew what type of film we were going to watch and enjoyed it. Not many original ideas out there when they are based on a comic as they need to be based on the original characters. Really how much detail do you want in a 2 hour film with individual characters that have grown over 100's of comics. A lot of that detail will be on the cutting floor to make the film watchable. If you don't like what is on then don't go to the cinema, read a book or comic instead that can go into the detail.
craigxxlWe knew what type of film we were going to watch and enjoyed it. Not many original ideas out there when they are based on a comic as they need to be based on the original characters. Really how much detail do you want in a 2 hour film with individual characters that have grown over 100's of comics. A lot of that detail will be on the cutting floor to make the film watchable. If you don't like what is on then don't go to the cinema, read a book or comic instead that can go into the detail.
Nothing you've said there makes any sense. I'll say again, there are good films and bad films. The source material isn't a caveat.
There's no formal prerequisite for comic book films to pour over any character in massive detail or explore the history of the comic books. But there are benchmark ensemble action films that establish characters to the point where you understand something about them, where they come from, their motivations and how those motivations effect their actions and by extension the plot.
Dirty Dozen, Great Escape, Inglorious Basterds, Seven Samurai etc established a pretty tried and true template for films like this.
All of those films at least 2 and half long and Seven Samurai over 3 and half hours gives a lot of time to build characters and plot. Most people will not sit for that length of time for an action film and prefer the 2 hours film length of Suicide Squad which the studios know and are reluctant to push. When these films are this popular it also always for an extra screening which helps them in the opening weekend turnover figures competition.
Trufact. That's why Lord of the Rings tanked at the box office.
Craigxxl none of what you have said explains the really, really bad dialogue.
Was it really that bad for [i]comic book[/i] based action film? What dialogue actually offends you?
craigxxlAll of those films at least 2 and half long and Seven Samurai over 3 and half hours gives a lot of time to build characters and plot. Most people will not sit for that length of time for an action film and prefer the 2 hours film length of Suicide Squad which the studios know and are reluctant to push. When these films are this popular it also always for an extra screening which helps them in the opening weekend turnover figures competition.
Avengers - 2hrs 23mins. Avengers 2 - 2hrs 22 mins. Man of Steel - 2hrs 28.
Batman v Superman 3hrs 3. Batman Begins 2hrs 20. Dark Knight Rises - 2hrs 45 mins....
What was your point?
So, are we going to see an end to the superhero plot anytime soon. Seeing as people are so sick of it?
-Hero/hero group is formed
-Baddie does bad stuff (way beyond the power of any one to stop) (CGI-fest)
-Superhero has doubts/love interest
-Baddie and superhero tangle in massive finale (whereby the baddie [i]always[/i] forgets some of their powers and gets into a punch-up)
-Superhero wins
-The end
-(or is it...)
If I go to a superhero film and get anything different, then I'll be seriously amazed.
[i] I'll say again, there are good films and bad films. [/i]
Surely they are simply films you like and films you don't like?
Have you seen any of those films or even Suicide Squad? The ones that you have listed 4 possible 5 should have been shortened as the extra time only added to arse ache and not the plot.
DezBI'll say again, there are good films and bad films.
Surely they are simply films you like and films you don't like?
Leaving aside my own personal preferences, we do have professional critics and aggregator sites like Rotten Tomatoes (though far from perfect).
Time is usually the best judge. When the marketing hype and internet chatter has died off do people still regard it as a good film in 10,20,30,50 years time.
craigxxlHave you seen any of those films or even Suicide Squad? The ones that you have listed 4 possible 5 should have been shortened as the extra time only added to arse ache and not the plot.
Your point was that comic book movies can't be long and it was not financially viable. I wasn't chosing them as examples of good films, merely examples of very long, but incredibly lucrative films to counter your irrelevant point that "people won't sit through an action movie that long" and "studios know this and cut films accordingly".
[i]Time is usually the best judge. When the marketing hype and internet chatter has died off do people still regard it as a good film in 10,20,30,50 years time.[/i]
Hmm, I don't think so...
What about all the "I've never seen The Godfather" folk on here? Cos it's a bad film?
And rottentomatoes/professional critics/whatever - all just opinions. Many of which I disagree with. Could name many examples!
Stanley Kubrick went from the dawn of humanity to alien transcendance in less than three hours. Most of the films above are 2.3 hours of people/robots hitting each other.
"Cutting room", [i]please[/i].
Jimjam, I'll watch what entertains me just like the others did who filled the cinema alongside me last night. Strangely they all seemed to enjoy it too which is bizarre as someone who hasn't seen it wants to tell me how bad it was 😯
DezBHmm, I don't think so...
Fine Dez. Go and compile your own top 50 films list.
craigxxlJimjam, I'll watch what entertains me just like the others did who filled the cinema alongside me last night. Strangely they all seemed to enjoy it too which is bizarre as someone who hasn't seen it wants to tell me how bad it was
I have seen it. By all means watch what you want, but if you're going to justify it "I knew what to expect" is not any kind of qualifier or objective analysis. Same for "it's a comic book film".
At no point have I said you shouldn't have watched that, or you can't like that. I'm commenting on your justifications as to why it was good which to me seems like saying "I went to a gig last night, everyone said the band was shit but I was drunk so it was awesome".
Oh dear God, some people liked Suicide Squad some don't like it, some people are cine literate, some people arent, some people like to think they are. Some people like different genres, some people like to be challenged by films some people just want to sit down for a couple of hours and be entertained.
Everyone likes different stuff, what are we bickering about?
Whether it's any good.
It's entirely possible to make a blockbuster about superheroes that is smart and treats the audience as smart [or at least doesn't offer them idiot-grade content].
By the sound of it, this is neither - hence the discussion.
Pigface - MemberOh dear God, some people liked Suicide Squad some don't like it,
Everyone likes different stuff, what are we bickering about?
Welcome to the internet.
[i]It's entirely possible to make a blockbuster about superheroes that is smart and treats the audience as smart [or at least doesn't offer them idiot-grade content].[/i]
You better start looking for a producer then, cos Hollywood hasn't managed it yet!
Deadpool came closest, but that was down to dialogue not plot.
The Guardian thinks we're all sexist pigs, so it's a mute point really whether the plot, dialogue etc is any good.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/aug/09/suicide-squad-killing-joke-dc-comics-women-misogyny
Mute point, is that like a ... Etc
Pigfacejimjam you are a bit of a tool really aren't you.
Why so butthurt?
Hey just my opinion, its the internet right
You better start looking for a producer then, cos Hollywood hasn't managed it yet!
Jimjam is the answer.
@ boingo - it's a "moot" point
@ dez - "Nolan" mean anything to ya? Bourne is basically a superhero as well. What about Guardians of the Galaxy...?
Pigface
Hey just my opinion, its the internet right
Yeah well if you resort to personal insults at the drop of hat when people are debating how to critique pop culture you maybe should stay off it. The internet that it.
Watched it yesterday, it could have been better but then again it could have been a whole lot worse. It's a little confused in places but there were plenty of laughs (mostly intentional) that saw me comfortably through to the end. Margot Robbie got the tone of her performance spot on, Will Smith was not far behind and Ben Affleck does his usual 'chubby bloke on tranquillisers' thing. Not bad but definitely not Marvel either! 🙂