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So it has automatically set it up to link to my FB account which I don't want! when I click "remove" it takes me to the contact list which has been taken off FB (as of yet I don't have any other contacts on there) how do I get rid of this! ARGH! should've got some bottom of the range Nokia 😉
the new nokia n8. 12mp camera and hd video. Should be getting mine in a week or two!
Munqe - I got a bit frustrated at first. Bear with it and get used to it then you'll be back here saying how cool it is...!
I really don't get why people harp on about the iPhone being "restrictive." I too thought it an issue and stuck with HTC (Tytn II, Hero and HD2) for 3 years until suddenly opting for an iPhone 4.
Have to say it is by far the most functional device I've owned (or used). The restrictive side of things is hardly an issue in real-world terms - and I say this having customised all my previous HTC's.
IMO, the iPhone works admirably as a phone and music player, plus the app store gives virtually functionality for minimal effort/cost.
To summarise, I'd say HTC HD2 and Desire are great VFM all round, but the iPhone is a better device if you can justify the additional spend.
Now you've done it. Fetch the flame-retardant suits...
Once again I repeat my weekends experience - you cannot get a spare battery for an i-phone. They use power very quickly as with all smartphones.
A phone isn't very smart if it's dead - I just swapped my battery over by about midnight, my i-phone mates all ran out (it was an all night stag do) of charge and so didn't even have people's numbers to call, no camera to use, nothing.
That is a major i-phone killer - poor battery life and no chance to replace. This makes is hopeless for a long day out at meetings, long trips by MTB - basically anything where a socket isn't available. Not very "cool" then is it Apple marketeers?
Mat: I take it you realise the iPhone 4 has a 1420mAh battery (slightly bigger than the Desire) ...?
As I said above, external battery pack, battery cases, solar chargers etc are all available.
Graham - well that's MUCH bigger than my 1400mAh battery and my spare 1600mAH one...that cost me less than £20...
Yes you can charge an i-phone in a number of ways - or you can have a tiny spare battery with a Desire and easily swap it over. Me and someone with an old Nokia were the only ones out of a dozen of us with useable mobiles by the end of the night.
GrahamS - Member
Mat: I take it you realise the iPhone 4 has a 1420mAh battery (slightly bigger than the Desire) ...?
yep, that 20mAh (erm, or 1.4%) is gonna make all the difference. That is assuming I am right in thinking the Desire's is 1400mAh. Don't wanna really take the battery out just to check...
M-C - you can also find the manual by openind up the 'pdf viewer' from the apps menu.
Perhaps I should have said "ever so slightly bigger". My point is that Mat is rabitting on about batteries but ignoring the fact that the iPhone actually has a longer battery life (7hours talk on 3G versus 6.5hours on Desire) while still managing to power a much larger screen.
Also, woohoo you can change the battery. How many Desire owners actually carry around spare charged batteries and why is this soooo much better than the battery pack above or using a case with an extra battery in it?
Sorry one more dumb question, I guess I can get the PDF on the internet this evening? so I can look at it on my laptop and play with the phone at the same time so I can slowly learn. Rather than reading it off the phone and having to remember before I start playing. I can already feel it's going to be a wicked phone but I just need to learn a few bits before I even think about downloading apps from who knows where..... 😉 excited though. Glad Mr MC is out tonight as I imagine I won't be much company!!
MC: as gravity-slaves suggests, you can view the PDF that is on the phone on your computer by plugging it in via USB and browsing through the phone's files.
Or, if you need the manual to figure out how to do that then check the internet!
Graham - you can witter on until you are blue in the face. The fact is, I carried a tiny spare battery knowing I'd need my phone working for a long time. I-phone users didn't and couldn't and all had no phones to use when they needed them. I've also needed the spare battery on very long days of meetings. A dead phone is a useless phone whether it claims to have 10 minutes extra battery life or not. Having a "smartphone" that eats batteries that can't be changed but needs charging without replacement options is utterly useless. As demonstrated at the weekend.
And yes, two with i-phone 4s were also having reception issues. I wasn't.
Munge - the pdf is embedded into the SD card - you might need to transfer it to the laptop. I found it okay reading it on the screen.
why is this soooo much better than the battery pack above or using a case with an extra battery in it?
It's way more efficient - I had a 1600ma battery pack, and it only charged my N95's 900ma battery to full one time per charge. Whereas if I have a spare battery charged up, I know that is exactly one full charge. Spare batteries are also much smaller than the external battery packs, and much cheaper.
Joe
The fact is, I carried a tiny spare
battery knowing I'd need my phone working for a long time. I-phone users didn't and couldn't and all had no phones to use when they needed them
Right, so you had the foresight to take an extra charged battery, but none of your mates with iphones thought to do this (despite there being plenty of options they could have used) - therefore iPhones are rubbish? 🙄
I've also needed the spare battery on very long days of meetings
I don't play with my phone much in meetings, but then most of my meetings are in rooms with plugs, use a laptop with power, or involving driving somewhere, so there are ample opportunities to charge it anyway.
BTW if your mates are using their batteries till they are completely flat then they will shorten the lifespan of the battery.
Joe: not my experience. That Kensington pack will happily refuel an iPhone and have enough power spare to do about half on another one - which pretty much fits with the figures.
You can download the user guide [url= http://www.htc.com/www/userguide.aspx?p_id=312 ]here[/url]
fbk - Member....waits for the "I've got a xxxxxx and it lasts 3 weeks without a charge"
Sort of happy to oblige... 😕 I have a phone that does 10-12 days between charges. Unfortunately all it does is call and text, and its 'apps' are snake II and a silly little LED torch. Late adopter, me.
User manual for a PHONE ??? Whatever next?
(I also have the Kensington battery pack recommended by GrahamS. I used it on a camping trip recently to power my iPhone and also my wife's Nokia. One useful thing was that this allowed me to charge the battery pack in the campsite washroom, whereas I wouldn't leave a phone to charge unattended in a public place.)
LMAO @ Julian Wilson!
Oh I have so much fun ahead of me tonight. Surf Matt how much was your spare battery and from where? Slowly managed to fiddle with a few bits to conserve battery (brightness etc).
Munge - about £15 off teabay. Read a few reviews and went for a non HTC copy. So far so very good.
Turning off auto synching makes the biggest difference (settings > accounts and synch, remove two synch "ticks" at the top of the options list) to battery life - pretty much doubles it.
So a Smartphone typically needs to be charged everyday?
That won't do much for climate change. Just think of all that energy fuzz and radio buzz going round the world. Its why Bee's are dying.
Pieface: yeah, more than once a day.
It's not all doom and gloom tho: I happily surf on my phone rather than firing up my 600w worth of desktop PC, 24 inch monitor and speakers.
M-C. You can get the pdf from the HTC website for the manual, which is probably what the link a bit above is for.
I recommend plugging in the phone while you fiddle about setting it up. The battery dies pretty quick when you have the display on loads and are flitting between this and that.
You should notice that the battery will last longer after it's been charged a few times, the novelty has worn off & you've got your head around some power saving things.
I've turned syncing down to a minimum & that helped. I also set-up buttons on the screen (add>widget) for quickly turning off the data connection, wi-fi & gps. I generally use the phone with all of them off & turn them on as & when needed.
I don't really use my phone a great deal, and generally if I charge my phone one evening it will last the next day and the day after that too. If I look at a lot of stuff on the internet or use My Tracks (gps tracking), then it does tend to kill it quite quickly.
Android phones outsold Iphones last month!
Love my Sony Xperia X10 🙂
Android phones outsold Iphones last month!
Yep. No one wants iPhones any more because they are too popular... 😯
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-- http://gigaom.com/2010/08/02/android-sales-overtake-iphone-in-the-u-s/
you know i was gonna get a smartphone when my contract expired but graphs like the one above made me realise lifes too short to worry about stuff like that
so i just got vodafone to give me a half price contract deal instead of an upgrade and ordered a new hard drive for my nackered ipod off ebay for a few quid
ta da!
Useful short cut for you munqe chick...hold down the home button and your last 6 programs appear, really useful when swapping between browser, sat nav, texts etc 🙂
Is it worth downloading opera browser, any faster than the default one?
I use the Dolphin browser - it's pretty decent.
Wow spooky that's useful cheers!
I could of upgraded early today but I have decided to hang on until the new HTC Desire HD comes out late Sept/Oct time.
Blimey - I didn't realise people got soooo defensive over their choice of phone. Well I've got a Desire, and it's great, and everything else is crap, so ner !! 🙄
Nice graph by the way, aren't stats great 😉
flippinheckler - if you update the current Desire to Froyo (OS 2.2) you can get HD video now. I think the one you're talking about has a higher megapixel stills camera though - coming out later in the year I believe? HTH 🙂
Am still waiting until Orange "lets" me upgrade to 2.2 - HURRY UP ORANGE!!
Android phones outsold Iphones last month!
So did Nokia, and probably so did SonyE. The iPhone is basically one phone from one manufacturer with a choice of capacities. Exactly how many manufacturers are producing how many different models of phone with various versions of Android? Android is an OS. Same as WinMob. Same as Symbian. Android is not a make of phone from one manufacturer, so all the statistics are effectively meaningless.
Okay so I can put phone numbers in to create a new contact but doesn't give me the optino to put birthdays/e-mail address is, what am I doing wrong? I have the PDF on the computer in front of me but stuff like that it doesn't mention? I think it's great phone but I'm getting a little frustrated not knowing WTF I am doing!
Okay just figured it out I need to save them into the phone and not onto the SIM! Phew off to circuits in a bit head spinning! At least I can read STW whilst I'm on the train going to London tomorrow 😉 hope there's cheeky free wi-fi too!
Use the 'people' app to add things to phone numbers etc...
Or open up your google mail and add stuff to contacts there then sync via the phone...
Oh, and calibrate the keyboard on the phone; see the little keyboard on the actual keyboard?
Okay this is sent from the phone not sure what you mean? I only have hotmail can I use this or do I need Google mail?
Aaah, you really need a google mail account to make the phone work properly, and you might have to start again, setting it up from scratch and putting in your google mail addy and password as you set up the phone.
Get a google mail account by clicking gmail on the google home page.
If you have a gmail account, you can use the market and google maps to see the maps that you will create using Mytracks..
Once you have the google mail account, you can set hotmail up as another account, or just forward stuff from your hotmail account to your google one.
Ok so have created a g mail account but struggling to as phone won't set it up I will keep trying time for bed I thinly thanks for all your help so far!!
With respect to the HTC Desire, if I wanted to view my email on the phone, am I obliged to run gmail or can I just adjust the settings to retreive email from my ISP?
Marmot - yep. I get my email from Yahoo and Googlemail. And hotmail.
Okay I'm getting there but I'm struggling to put music onto the phone! I set up the "disc drive" bit and plug it ino the computer and it says it should be on as a removable F drive, but when I click on that it says "please insert disc into removable F drive" but the computer recognises the phone is plugged is as I can safely remove the "removable F drive" HEY WTF this is annoying me now!
I just open the "F drive" window, then the music file window and drag and drop it all - works fine.