Utterly discracefull the way the UK GOV are deporting.
There is a special place in hell for these people.
Not that I'm religeous, but I'd send her to hell too.
https://sflix.se/movie/watch-guy-ritchies-the-covenant-hd-95935
The thing is you know that she’s an absolute shoe-in for the next leader of the Tory Party. She knows it too.
The obvious glee she takes from inflicting misery on the poor and desperate is mirrored by the majority of Tory MPs and their affluent, elderly, racist base. They all love this shit! They’ll vote her in in a heartbeat
That might well be a good thing, as she marches the party off further and further to the unhinged Trumpian right she becomes abhorrent to more and more of the electorate
She's a dark horse.
Braverman has launched her leadership campaign now for certain. She's popping up everywhere being nasty.
Obviously she is playing to her natural crowd at the moment, but if experience has taught them anything over the last 7 years it is that there is more of a crowd for her than most of us like to admit. Sorry times.
On the plus side, I have figured who/what Cruella has been reminding me of for so long. It is Jabba the Hutt's pet/sidekick Salacious Crumb.
If I can get an image to post, I will.
Braverman has launched her leadership campaign now for certain. She’s popping up everywhere being nasty.
To be honest I think this is a good thing. It was the same with Truss, Rishi and the oversexed honeymonster. As long as they're preoccupied with personal campaigning then they carry on doing what they've always done - promising the moon on a stick (40 new hospitals, a mini- nuclear reactor on every street, reform of social care) while having no intention whatsoever in delivering any of it as it isn't actually a policy at all, its a vague, wooly campaign 'promise'
Of course this means that in amongst the perma-campaign and associated backstabbing, we've effectively not had a government at all for the past 4 years. Having said that, given what happened on probably the single solitary time they actually carried through their campaign promises - Liz and Kamikwasi's mini-budget - having the country ungoverned, rudderless and drifting is infinitely preferable
at least drifting there's a chance we'll avoid collisions.
When we're being steered, it's towards spiky rocks that already has a flaming oiltanker aground on them.
Does she want the top job before the next ge? I guess she does, which presumably means she thinks she can beat starmer. Given that immigration was largely behind the brexit vote I fear a great many voters do listen to her. Cripes.
This whole NatCon thing is weird
Im not sure we are ready for full US style tea party politics, GBNews does not have anywhere near the reach of Foxnews (yet)
I cant decide whether its a cunning ploy to have ministers & MPs like Braverman/Mogg/Kruger etc go there and spout their extreme stuff safely removed from the Tory party- keeps the frothing nutters onside, but still deniable, or whether the rest of the electorate just look at the Tories and think- get these dinosaurs away from power asap!
either way if you have to go to such efforts to explain why you're definitely not a fascist...
https://twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1658380244259143681
the oversexed honeymonster.
You paint pictures with words as well as crayons 👌
Given that immigration was largely behind the brexit vote I fear a great many voters do listen to her. Cripes.
Quite.
But - it could never happen here* etc.
*It really could.
having the country ungoverned, rudderless and drifting is infinitely preferable
I suppose it means that the disaster capitalists and exploiters have to actually look for the cracks rather than create them, but it's scant consolation.
It never ceases to amaze me when otherwise rational & intelligent work colleagues start spouting racist right wing s@1t!! Don't underestimate the selfishness/entitlement of the country , plus the reach of the mail/express.
I read Melanie Philips' article on archive. It's interesting in the sense that she makes no attempt to explain why any of the points that have been made by any of the speakers at the conference aren't right wing no sir not at all.....she just repeats the mantra "we're not right wing....honest..." It's fing fantastically deluded stuff.
All you really need to do is ask yourself if you know of any previous political movements with the word 'National' as part of their title who aren't (or don't at least aspire to be) genocidal lunatics?
I can think of many binners. It's the aims not the name that's the real problem. Think of the NHS, and the SNP... "national" doesn't have to mean what these National Conservatives want it to mean. The idea of a nation state that is open, tolerant and cooperative again is the big challenge of the next decade... here and in the USA.
"Im not sure we are ready for full US style tea party politics, GBNews does not have anywhere near the reach of Foxnews (yet)"
I hope you're right but Fox news put the frog in tepid water to start with then gradually turned up the heat. GB News turned the temperature up first and replaced the water with burning oil.
It's often been said that Fox News is the propaganda wing of the Republican party. Though similar, GB News isn't the propaganda wing of the Conservative Party, when you look at their line up, you'd have to say that GB News actually is the Conservative Party.
In terms of reach, Fox News doesn't actually have that many subscribers, their reach comes from how their product gets recycled through other media.
We love to mock the low viewing figures GB News achieve or their financial losses but if you look at how much of their content gets republished and disseminated then you could argue that it provides pretty good value for its funders.
In terms of reach, Fox News doesn’t actually have that many subscribers, their reach comes from how their product gets recycled through other media.
National newspapers have a similar role here. Arguably Fox news is just doing the same as papers like the Mail and Sun do over here... different media landscape, different geography, different regulatory framework... all lead to it being more appropriate to seed and feed the right wing debate via TV over there rather than newspapers.
word ‘National’ as part of their title who aren’t (or don’t at least aspire to be) genocidal lunatics?
I was going to offer National Express, my favourite way to travel when a student.
From a cyclists point of view, aren't all coach drivers genocide lunatics?
Take the National Express when your life's in a mess
Ba-ba-ba-da 🙂
Tune!
Our Mutual Friend is my favourite. Or perhaps The Certainty Of Chance. Or perhaps… damn, too many great tunes.
Natural history museum appears to have made a huge blunder allowing the NatC conference, especially considering holocaust denier Douglas Murray has used it to spout his bile
https://twitter.com/5iveFlights/status/1658553698589523969?t=5p-C0FHlXIeGWz6RKTgZZw&s=19
^ Tut tut.
Defence of course will be that she didn't get special treatment and took the points. The rest was just enquiring, wasn't trying to avoid anything, etc.
Corrupt bastards.
https://twitter.com/HarryYorke1/status/1659951990741368834
How utterly surprising
What's genuinely surprising is that the mail are leading with it
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1660028109612097540?t=F4Yd3mm1deN0vpNOt_0Z5Q&s=19
And the Times broke the story.
Edit : It should be remembered that the Mail on Sunday strongly backed Remain in the referendum.
That was under Georgie greige
He was ousted after moving to the daily mail for his remain stance
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/nov/17/geordie-greig-ousted-as-editor-of-the-daily-mail
If you read the article the headline is "Geordie Greig ousted as editor of the Daily Mail".
Greig was the editor of the Daily Mail, not the Mail On Sunday. In fact according to your link he was replaced by the Mail On Sunday editor Ted Verity.
The Mail On Sunday very strongly supported Remain, as my link to their editorial shows. There is no reason to assume that it has any particular personal loyalty to Suella Braverman.
Iirc Greig was MOS editor whilst it was pro remain and was moved to DM and was then ousted because he was too anti Johnson
Dacre wanted him gone & won in the end, he's now at the independent
Since then MOS & DM seem to have been in lockstep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordie_Greig
MOS has been loving bravermans Rwanda gig
holocaust denier Douglas Murray
Adjective Noun: Why Every One Of My Goddamn Books Apparently Needs A Sub-title
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Murray_(author)
You could argue that Grieg was actually promoted after the Mail On Sunday backed Remain by being made editor of the Daily Mail. And although he was replaced as editor 18 months ago I believe that he remained a consultant editor.
Ultimately it is Viscount Rothermere who has final say on editorial policy so I can't see that the Mail On Sunday would have backed Remain against his wishes - the editorial team would have been simply replaced.
MOS has been loving bravermans Rwanda gig
Both the front pages you posted are from the Daily Mail, not the Mail On Sunday. Not that it proves that they are particular fans of Braverman anyway as the daft Rwanda policy isn't even her idea.
I have no idea what the Mail On Sunday's veiws on Braverman are, nor do I care, I just don't think there is anything particularly shocking if they aren't too bothered about embarrassing her. It's a story that they couldn't easily ignore anyway - I guess it will be fairly prominent on all of tomorrow's newspapers.
Edit: Sorry my mistake those front pages are from the Mail On Sunday.
Both the front pages you posted are from the Daily Mail, not the Mail On Sunday.
You may want to look at them again
I still think it's surprising mail quite happy to ignore plenty of other (Tory) indiscretions that other papers lead with
Either way I think this might finally be the end for braverman, even if she's found to have not broken ministerial code
Either way I think this might finally be the end for braverman, even if she’s found to have not broken ministerial code
If you really believe that then you shouldn't be surprised that the Mail On Sunday treated the story with the importance that it deserves - they couldn't simply ignore it or barely cover it.
If I am surprised by anything is that the pro-Tory Times newspaper broke the story, unless they knew that someone else would if they didn't, which is likely the case.
The Tories are not in a good position to win the general election next year they really can't afford to have onboard people who embarrass them and do them no favours. For that reason I tend to agree with you that this has possibly the potential to be end of Braverman's current cabinet career.
And I can't see the Tory press remaining particularly loyal towards other Tory politicians whose behaviour makes it harder for them.
Other than Sunday Times and MoS, it doesn't make the front pages.
What is the Observer leading on?
ITN this evening made Braverman their second story. Their top story was Phillip Schofield ffs.
Either way I think this might finally be the end for braverman, even if she’s found to have not broken ministerial code
I don't think so. This government is utterly shameless. Braverman will only go if Sunak decides it advantages him, and even then, he's not shown much sign of the courage to be ruthless.
I think the question to ask is why has this story broken now when it happened about a year ago?
Is it simply a coincidence or is there a connection with Braverman seen by many to be making a bid for the Tory leadership last week?
Yet another example of where just taking the points would have been the end of the matter but instead it's got to go through the whole "special treatment, exposé, cover up, denial..." phase all over the news.
Anyway, I thought the evil old crone was a fan of a points based system... ?!
Ernesto, Observer first edition front page - dodgy money from major donor to tories and Martin Amis' death.
Later editions may have different front page.
Both the Indie and ITV News see it differently to the Guardian TJ
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/rishi-sunak-suella-braverman-speeding-points-b2342875.html
