[Closed] STW research club, I propose for the second subject building 7 9/11 event

just wanted to add.

Your "True Hero" in the video up there, Willian Rodriguez.

Funny how when he was interviewed by the 9/11 Commission, his storey was somewhat different to what he says in the video.
He seems to have invented a LOT of things since then

No mention of Bombs going off before the planes hit (which is a rather big thing for him to forget wouldn't you say ?)

Here is the 9/11 commission interview.

[url= http://911myths.com/images/a/af/NYC_Box4_William_Rodriguez.pdf ]9/11 Commission- William Rodriguez. [/url]

Kaesae, you're crackers dude! Have you got a subterranean shelter full of food?

You[b]'[/b]r[b]e[/b] an idiot

tee hee 😀

I'm bad at spelling.

He's an idiot.

Very, very different levels of a similar scale.

Eye witness reports are poor at best. The human mind is powerful thing. It's well known and has been proven in testing.

I've been tested and I was rubbish!

How is it different he says that he at first thought the primary explosion was caused by one of the generators, tell me something, do they normally put generators at the top of buildings 😯 or at the bottom?

Countless people reporting explosion at the bottom of the towers, also lots of evidence that those explosions injured people? nealglover is there any mention in the report of WTC building 7 and is the info in the book the exact same as the info that the 9/11 commission has in it's files?

Genuine questions?

Very good pjm84, what about the actual videos of explosions, are they just optical illusions, hahahahaha!

The 911 conspiracy is p1$$ easy to explain.

You have this organisation (al Qaeda) which was founded in 1988 in Afganistan. In 1996 they/it declared war on america and the west; then they waged the war with numerous attacks all over the world (including previously trying to destroy the WTC in 1993). It has a well trained, well funded, well equipped and fully functioning multinational military which helped take over an entire country. It has also tried to take over others with various military adventures, some more successful than others. Its overall aim is to control the territory from Andalucia through north Africa and South Asia to the Philipines, ruled by an Islamic Caphiliate, and cause the downfall and destruction of western governments, economies and societies. It is highly sophisticated with a media/public relations, political, financial and military objective. Although presently some what on the back foot.

Smoking gun?

Those loud bangs were probably the impact of those who jumped hitting the canopy above the reception area (not a nice thought).

Kaesae, sometimes planets align and things you never thought possible occur, as happened on 9/11; move on and put your obvious analytical powers into something worthwhile.

Here's some more material for my clubbers!

Umm who said its your club? Sorry I don't expect an answer as you seem to have an inability to actually answer anything. Answering questions could be seen as a kind of leadership of "your club".

However what you have failed to realise throughout all of you stupid "research" projects is that almost everyone thinks you are a complete "male chicken".

You seem incapable of accepting or indeed investigating any biew point that challenges your perceived view point despite asking others to have an open mind.

Participation here is largely pointing out what a complete lunatic you are. As fo a constructive suggestion I believe you should seek help, get out more, make some real friends that are not part of the digital universe and maybe just maybe try and get laid.

allmountainventure Al qaeda was formed by the US government

Although initially they had weapons and funding from the US, they were not as effective as we have been lead to believe.

It wasn't that well funded up until recently when the US and NATO used them to make up the core of the fighters that overthrew the Libyan Jamarihiya.

They are very well funded now after looting several Libyan banks and have some impressive weapons including surface to air missiles, however back in 2001 although they bombed a couple of embassies and similar places, they didn't have the kind of resources that would have been required to infiltrate the WTC and plant explosives, they also do did not have access to nano particle thermite explosives.

After Libya they used the weapons to move into northern mail and other places and are also heavily active in Syria ate the moment, be of no doubt they are a proxy army of the US controlled by the CIA!

In
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be of no doubt they are a proxy army of the US controlled by the CIA!

First Kurt Cobain and now this. I am outraged

they didn't have the kind of resources that would have been required to infiltrate the WTC and plant explosives

Fail.

1993 truck bomb INSIDE the WTC?

Besides on 911 they didnt have to. They flew planes into the buildings instead.

they didn't have the kind of resources that would have been required to infiltrate the WTC and plant explosives,

That's good.

Because there wasn't any explosives planted.

They were hit by Aeroplanes 🙄

and you have provided zero credible evidence that says otherwise.

they also do did not have access to nano particle thermite explosives.

You have had that explained to you, but you chose to ignore it (what a shocker !)

Do you ever read anything on here, or just post total bollocks ?

@nealglover, I wish there was a like button for your comments 😀

This is worth while, we are moving towards another global conflict, after Libya the Chinese and Russian also South America as well as a lot of the rest of the world really do hate us!

The west is being demonized and it all starts at 9/11, this is the point were a lot of legislation was changed and massive funding was given to the CIA and other similar agencies, also a lot safety measures to stop these agencies from becoming too powerful and out of control were removed.

You think that what is happening in Syria and Iran doesn't concern us, but it does. Not just from a humanitarian perspective but also from a strategic one as well.

Unless you people want to be part of another large scale global conflict, then you need to wake up! to what's going on.

they also do did not have access to nano particle thermite explosives

Can you explain what "nano particle thermite explosives" are exactly please?

How is it different from the thermite which anyone can make at home?

they also do did not have access to nano particle thermite explosives

Prove that please

Can we have a run down of the evidence provided by those who claim that the official reports are accurate?

As you have pointed out, I am quite slow and dim witted!

Kaesae, I agree Western politics cause many problems in the world and the future looks unsteady but that has nothing to do with the fact that some lads learnt to fly planes but not how to land them, that airport security was useless and multiple failings allowed 9/11 to happen.

Are you going to do a thread on 7/7 as well?

Can we have a run down of the evidence provided by those who claim that the official reports are accurate, regardless if the official reports contradict each other?

Can you provide hard evidence that al Qaeda terrorists did not destroy the WTC

Can we have a run down of the evidence provided by those who claim that the official reports are accurate?

As you have pointed out, I am quite slow and dim witted!

Can you answer this:

[b]In the Demolition Industry, what does the term "Pull it" actually mean ? [/b]

I have asked a few times, but you seem to keep missing it ?

Are you going to do a thread on 7/7 as well?

Oh and one on wifi radiation please? 😉

Kassae.

You have asked many questions here but seem to avoid answering them.

Can you confirm that nano thermite particles could be rust, iron or aluminium?

If I am jumping the queue for an answer here let me know!

Ill give him a clue

“Pull It" actually comes from “back in the day” where firefighters would pull the fire hose to signal to the interior crew that they must egress the structure ASAP. It is a very old term. It's from the horse drawn and steam powered fire engine days - but is still used today by many firefighters.

Oh, and (not here) but can you start a thread about how the evil oil industry cover up a car made by Nikola Tesla that had no batteries and ran on fresh air please. I really love that one.

Allmountainventure,

That's from the world of firefighting though.

Keasea (and the sunshine band) claims that the term "Pull it" was used in its Demolition Industry sense.

Which I would live to hear from him about.

(But he has probably now looked it up, and realised that Alex Jones was lying to him again (boo hoo 🙁 )

NG - I know. The point being that on 911 when they said "pull it" they were just pulling out the firefighters.

Also a term used when we "pull" tinfoil off the roll to use it to make hats to keep the government from stealing our thoughts 🙂

kaesae

After reading bits of your recent threads I have come to the measured conclusion that you are actually mental!

I'm not sure anybody else has noticed this but all this repeating himself and not listening to anybody else is a bit TJ.

Is it because people aren't interesting enough to start their own threads that they have to pick someone else's apart?
If you don't agree don't contribute....Simples
Oh I forgot its easier to just pick on the minority view 😯
Some posts are rude and some posters are repeatedly so!
Does it make you feel good?

Have I missed the holographic conspiracy theory? i.e they were missiles but projected as planes via holographic images.....

Generators / AHU / Switch gear / UPS / Gas suppresion systems / Water storage tanks can be placed anywhere in a building.

Galactus, if he wanted people to agree him he should have gone to David Ickes forum and not one populated by rational thinkers

Is it because people aren't interesting enough to start their own threads that they have to pick someone else's apart?
[b]If you don't agree don't contribute....Simples[/b]
Oh I forgot its easier to just pick on the minority view
Some posts are rude and some posters are repeatedly so!
Does it make you feel good?

Don't agree with what ???

There is no Hypothesis to disagree with, The thread is asking people to research the events on 9/11

I would say, the people who disagree with Keasea the most, are the ones who have actually done some proper research.

Is it because people aren't interesting enough to start their own threads that they have to pick someone else's apart?

If you don't agree don't contribute....Simples

Oh I forgot its easier to just pick on the minority view

Some posts are rude and some posters are repeatedly so!

Does it make you feel good?

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1.
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b. A public meeting place for open discussion.
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Sadly I missed this infamous TJ era

If you don't agree don't contribute....Simples

Yep, that's the way all the best debates work. 🙄

Kaesae claims he started these threads to research and gather information.
You can hardly complain that people are offering such information and pointing out where other information is wrong or misleading.

There's not much debating actually happening though. The following quote on Trolling is probably more pertinent.

A troll is deliberately crafted to provoke others with the intention of wasting their time and energy.

A troll is a time thief. To troll is to steal from people. That is what makes trolling heinous.

Trolls can be identified by their disengagement from a conversation or argument.

They do not believe what they say, but merely say it for effect.

Trolls are motivated by a desire for attention by people and can't or won't acquire it in a productive manner.

Someone may be insufferable, infuriating, fanatical, and an ignorant idiot to boot without being a troll.

Also note that a troll isn't necessarily insulting, snide, or even impolite. Only the crudest, most obvious, forms of trolling can be identified so easily.

If you find yourself patiently explaining, at length and in great detail, some obscure point to someone who isn't even being polite to you, then you are probably being trolled.

This is worth while, we are moving towards another global conflict, after Libya the Chinese and Russian also South America as well as a lot of the rest of the world really do hate us!

You do realise that the rest of the world distrusts Russia, China and the US much like they distrust us, right?

piemonster - Member
Sadly I missed this infamous TJ era

It wasn't that great: take a (usually Guardian-endorsed) viewpoint, then stick to it rigidly despite any evidence against it, however tangential it might be to the thrust of the argument. When you realise you really have lost the argument, run away.

mogrim - Member

It wasn't that great: take a (usually Guardian-endorsed) viewpoint, then stick to it rigidly despite any evidence against it, however tangential it might be to the thrust of the argument. When you realise you really have lost the argument, run away.

Which is what makes me think kaesae is like him, just a bit more extreme and more mental.

Another relevant quote

If somebody was "addicted to negative attention", couldn't they achieve such by randomly deleting or changing content? How does a vandal's motivations differ from a troll's?

Vandals' motivations are destruction and recognition. Vandals will usually be quickly dismissed after being recognized. A troll doesn't seek either destruction or recognition. A troll seeks anonymity because he can't waste your time if you recognize what's happening. He can't get attention if he gets recognition.

I don't need to make excuses for my actions@piemonster and @GrahamS
I don't need explaining what a forum is., debate yes not ridicule and snide remarks...
I wasn't complaining it was a statement!
I'll leave it with this...Opinions are like assholes, we all have them and they stink 😀

The most worrying thing with that analogy is that in real life we have to tolerate other peoples opinions 😐

shudders.... didn't want that image

The last thread of kaesae's I read was researching the loveliness and reasonableness of the Iranian government. It appeared to be suggesting Iran getting a nuke wasn't a bad thing and was ever so slightly antisemitic. This one is, appears to be, adopting the view that 9/11 was perpetrated by the US Government either to cover up crappy accounting or to start a war in the middle east.

"Researching" the two threads posted by kaesae I've read leads me to conclude he's an apologist for Islamic Fundamentalism.

As I might not be being totally objective I conducted a survey of approximately 0.000001% of the UK population asking if they agreed or disagreed with that assertion. The respondent agreed. Therefore statistics show 100% of the UK population believe kaesae is an apologist for Islamic fundamentalism

This survey was only marginally less statistically valid than kaesae's statistics, posted earlier, based on a survey of 0.000032% of the US population so he must agree, its a statistically proven fact.

I look forward to the "MI5 dun the 7/7 bombings to keep the war going" thread