[Closed] STW Friday Six-Pack Club

Then think about possibly cutting out your 12 pints a week.

Like I said before, I don't intend to drink 12 pints every week, it's a maximum, it could be as few as eight or nine. I don't really have time to watch your home movie I'm afraid. Is it one of these wobbling round southern singletrack things?

BadlyWiredDog - I've offered what I believe to be excellent advice.
IIRC Brad Pitt did make some massive changes to his diet in preparation for fight club...

Out - Vicky Sponge, Cup Cakes and Batenburg
In - Lardy Cake, Eton Mess and Danish Pastries

[edit] I'm pretty certain that Cherry Bakewells are on the 'in' list too [edit]

No cake, no Green & Black's, no alcohol.

5K run every morning, sit-ups and ab crunches til' you feel sick (morning and night).

More resisting cake, Green & Black's and alcohol.

No offence, but try reading my previous post and be a bit more imaginative with your nutritional thinking. I'm confident that my plan will be both more effective and more enjoyable. I suspect that be eating foods that specifically target abdominal fat, I'll be able to achieve my goals without such ridiculous measures.

BadlyWiredDog:

I don't really have time to watch your home movie I'm afraid. Is it one of these wobbling round southern singletrack things?

I thought fat people were supposed to be jolly?

BadlyWiredDog - Member

No offence, but try reading my previous post and be a bit more imaginative with your nutritional thinking. I'm confident that my plan will be both more effective and more enjoyable. I suspect that be eating foods that specifically target abdominal fat, I'll be able to achieve my goals without such ridiculous measures.

None taken, but you're coming across a little like one of those 'bubbly' women who order a quarter pounder with cheese, chips and a large Coke before uttering those immortal words 'Actually, make that a Diet Coke', as if it's some kind of magic potion.

I'm confident that my plan will be both more effective and more enjoyable.

im willing to bet that you are 50% right there.

Diet Coke does not work!

I do think you need to vary your drinking though.

You could subsitiute alternate beers with cider and perry. This will stop your body becoming accustomed to one particular type of alcohol so should prevent 'plateau'. It has the added benefit of giving you at least 2 of your 5-a-day.

The thought of abdominal crunches makes me feel sick. I guess on a psychosomatic level that will already be doing me good then?

But if I pull the threads of this thread together, do i understand that it's the combination of food groups that causes the effect? Won't therefore vomiting them back up and so preventing their synergistic effects occurring, actually reduce your fat burning potential.

I'm so confused. And to cap it all, i keep getting this whooshing sound in my ears.

Jamie - Member
I thought fat people were supposed to be jolly?

BadlyWiredDog - Member
I suspect that be eating foods that specifically target abdominal fat....

dunno about jolly, that there is frickin hilarious.

I know, get a tattoo of a six pack drawn on your tummy. decent one mind you, none of this end of the pier tramp stamp nonsense. You could get on one of those discovery channel series (you might have to go to LA though)

Then you won't have to cut down on beer AT ALL!! six pack with no effort at all.

Cool

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bravohotel9er - Member
No cake, no Green & Black's, no alcohol.

5K run every morning, sit-ups and ab crunches til' you feel sick (morning and night).

More resisting cake, Green & Black's and alcohol.

That ^

Is the only way to get a 6-pack. Anything else you're kidding yourself. (not the [i]only[/i] way, obviously, but something very much like that)
Last time I had anything remotely defined in the abs area I was boxing training 4 hrs a week, running twice a week and playing regular badminton ([edit]Plus I was 30 years old!)

It takes proper fat burning exercise + correct diet to lost the fat from the stomach - cycling doesn't help much as abs are not used.

I do the same, if not more exercise than a few years ago (including daily dog walks, which don't do anything for fat burning) and my "paunch" seems to be growing anyway - middle aged spread, I believe. I drink about 1-2pints a week on average.

Beer has to be one of the worst things to keep up.

Why would anyone want a set of 6 puny little muscles on their midriff?

A real man has 1 large muscle there, often so large it hangs over his belt. 🙂

None taken, but you're coming across a little like one of those 'bubbly' women who order a quarter pounder with cheese, chips and a large Coke before uttering those immortal words 'Actually, make that a Diet Coke', as if it's some kind of magic potion

That's quite offensive. Not just to me, but also to women reading this thread. I'm a little disappointed at how negative many of these posts are, if I wanted to be told that the only way to get a six-pack was to eat less and train harder, I'd go over to some bloody body fascist exercise asylum, but it seems quite a few of the inmates have found their way over here.

And where did I mention drinking bloody Diet Coke? That's the whole point of it, I don't want to swill down that sort of crap, I want to achieve my objectives without having to resort to masochistic extremes and by simply following a normal diet and exercise regime. I'm off out now for a two-mile walk, which is more than can be said for most of you.

Where do I sign up.. alas I have already missed my morning half a green and blacks so fear I may fall off the wagon a bit quickly.

[i]I'm off out now for a two-mile walk, which is more than can be said for most of you.[/i]

remember to clench. Strain those tummy muscles...Gurn as you walk as you clench. F*ck this lot, they don't understand real life training...

You'll probably loose a few kilos as well, maybe in as short time as 3 weeks, I'm guessing maybe about 6 kilos....

Ohhh, I've just thought of a brilliant one...

Employ some-one with a six pack to impersonate you at important meetings and social gatherings, and engineer situations where they have to take off their shirts to reveal the six pack...Make sure all your friends know, so they can refer to the body double as you rather than you, obviously...

Your wife will go along with this, promise....

[i] bloody body fascists [/i]

Is that what you call realists?

Is that what you call realists?

It's so British isn't it, to sneer at anyone who dares to espouse a viewpoint which differs from the accepted norm and call it 'realism'. I call those people 'sheep' because they lack imagination and originality and hide behind convention to dodge the mundanity of their thinking.

Employ some-one with a six pack to impersonate you at important meetings and social gatherings, and engineer situations where they have to take off their shirts to reveal the six pack...Make sure all your friends know, so they can refer to the body double as you rather than you, obviously...

I applaud your rich fantasy life, but some of us live in the real world, thanks.

Nothing to do with being British. If it was as "easy" as you seem to think, there wouldn't be so many people with big guts!
Your rallying cry to get people to join you seems to be to disagree with anything posted in the most obnoxious way possible.
I would say good luck to you as I depart this thread, but I don't give a sh1t how you get on.

It takes proper fat burning exercise + correct diet to lost the fat from the stomach - cycling doesn't help much as abs are not used.

Newsflash - [b]YOU CAN'T 'CHOOSE' WHERE YOU BURN FAT FROM!![/b].
Excersing a muscle group does just that - excercise that group. Depending on the intensity you will either:
a) increase energy useage from the muscle (i.e. burn fat from the WHOLE BODY - not just the overlying lard)
b) increase the size of the muscle, plus a)

So, as has been said, sit ups/core ex to increase the size of the muscle group, and lose weight/fat to show them off.
No use hiding your sexy bling abs under a duvet of winter insulation is there......!

Beer, chocolate, cake, chips - fine every now and then, but make a diet of them (which I'm afraid tosay it sounds like you are, especially with the alcohol) and you'll never get that washboard!

DrP

[i]All this coming from a man who confidently rode the XC race at last years BBB in his Speedos!!! ;-)[/i]

DrP, are you really a medical doctor? And why did you ride a race in your Speedos? Just wondering.

Your rallying cry to get people to join you seems to be to disagree with anything posted in the most obnoxious way possible.
I would say good luck to you as I depart this thread, but I don't give a sh1t how you get on.

I'm truly sorry if I offended you, you just seem very inflexible in your thinking. I do accept that others may be right and I may be wrong, but it seems very few people are prepared to return the compliment and accept that there may be some validity in my thinking. Good luck with whatever you choose to do.

BWD - Brillaint trolling posts.

'I want to be thin, so I'm down to just half a bar of choc a day' - Genius!

'I want to lose fat from my abs only' - Sublime!

Good luck with this. I can't wait to see the photos.

BadlyWiredDog - Member

That's quite offensive. Not just to me, but also to women reading this thread. I'm a little disappointed at how negative many of these posts are, if I wanted to be told that the only way to get a six-pack was to eat less and train harder, I'd go over to some bloody body fascist exercise asylum, but it seems quite a few of the inmates have found their way over here.

I think you and Margaret from human resources should get yourself down to the spinning class on Tuesday night.

After 15 minutes of mild physical exertion, you can go to Harvester to discuss your uniquely laissez-faire fitness regime over a mega combo platter. As long as you stick to 4 pints or less to accompany your meal, you'll be dancing on a podium at G-A-Y clad only in orange PVC hot pants before you can say 'Rosemary Conley'.

I've just eaten a white chocolate Reese's Cup.

There were two in the packet, but I only had one. Buff by morning or my money back.

My plan is to limit myself to no more than four pints in any one session and never to go drinking more than three times a week, maximum, not minimum in case anyone was wondering.

Errr... You know the answer here...

My mate was drinking probably only 2 pints a night, about 4 or 5 nights a week, wondered why he was getting fat... Bear in mind he was going down the gym most evenings too. Anyway, his metabolism is not as fast as it used to be, and the extra 300 odd calories per pint on top of a normal healthy diet were what was doing for him...

Bike riding is CRAP exercise for shifting fat... I know loads of fat fit people that ride bikes. If you really want to get rid of the fat and get a six pack, stop drinking Beer full stop! And don't just ride a bike, you'll need to do lots of other different types of exercise too, and if it's the 6 pack you really want, then probably hundreds of sit ups per day!

You could always employ Contador's doctor and get him to prescribe you some clenbuterol...

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Hey BWD, just an opinion here if you are serious then you will need to cut the beer out mate, chocolate or cake (not both together :D) can be a treat ONCE a week and make sure you up your water intake.
Concentrate on pelvic floor exercises squeeze and hold for 5 do this throughout the day and this will strengthen your core, you need to work from the inside out. As for sit ups you have so many variations to hit all sections of your stomach, combine these with lying leg raises and crunches all these need to be carried out slowly with maximum resistance.
When you feel like your going to cry or throw up (and you will) keep going, to be honest the target you have set yourself is a huge and I wish you all the best

Oh I dunno. Drinking a bit of ale isn't the end of the world. I'm trying to lose a bit of weight, mainly to see how fast I can get on my bike. I've cut out all snacking, moderated my portions down a bit, choosing foods as healthy as I can. Also trying to get out riding as much as I can. Lost about 10lb over 6 weeks. Still drinking about 12 pints a week though!

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...but it seems very few people are prepared to return the compliment and accept that there may be some validity in my thinking.

Except the bit about replacing chocolate with ice cream.
Ice cream melts once it's inside you and the calories simply disappear.
You can eat as much ice cream as you want.

I think it's fair to say that we've moved on from the days when it as all about just reducing calorific intake, the latest science seems to be saying that it's as much or more about how you combine your core foods.

I lost three and a half stone in lard over 4 months by exercising for an hour every day and eating 3 normal, healthy meals a day, but cutting out all sweets, biscuits, chocolate etc throughout the week. On saturdays I'd eat an industrial size pack of malteasers and knock back at least a bottle of red, but back to normal the next day. And it was boring and not much fun, but it worked. All this Atkins and 'South Beach' and core dieting and whatever else diets are, IMHO, rubbish. Don't get me wrong, I wish you luck, but it's not easy. And the bit around your stomach is always the last to go. And the first to reappear!

Yes, I am a medical doctor....
And as for riding an xc race in speeds - 'twas the bbb, seemed like the thing to do....!
DrP

not read all the posts but I don't think this is a massively difficult proposition.

Cutting down on all the fatty stuffs is a big start but also proper exericse too, From what I can see, you do a fair amount of short rides, probably not that intensive. If you want to burn out fat then you could probably do with getting more longer rides and make them hard. Plus, a lot of them guys you see in the adverts, dehydrate themselves for the shots.

I'd recommend swimming as a good fat burning exericise. Get loads of crunches in. Cut out the fatty foods and beer.

Jon Doran your rod is indeed long 😉

I can't believe that no-one has told BWD the special diet trick...

break biscuits in half before you eat them and then hang them on the washing line so that the freshly broken edge is facing down (very important or it won't work) Once the biscuits are in position, leave them for 20 minutes and all of the calories will fall out.

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Thanks for your support guys. I thought I'd just let everyone know how I'm getting on in practical terms with a weekend update. First off, I went on the STW Peaks Pootle from Marple. Because I knew I'd need a lot of energy to keep up with some of the local hot shots, I had a fat-burning breakfast consisting of waffles, maple syrup and a banana - the thinking was that because the calories are absorbed quickly, they'd be there to be burned during the ride.

In the course of the ride itself, I ate 16 fig rolls which are low fat and consequently metabolise fat faster by encouraging the body to use its reserves quickly. I also had a small piece of cake, but kept it separate from the half bar of chocolate I consumed. I estimate we rode approximately 18 miles, so afterwards, to recover I ate a Tunnocks Caramel Wafer and a bakewell tart along with a mug of tea with only one sugar added. Note that I didn't consume any beer during the ride.

In the evening I ate Chinese with friends and drank only three bears, but there was no carbohydrate in the meal and I put the rice in a separate bowl to keep the main food groups apart from each other. When I got home I did two sets of ten abdominal crunches.

Today I woke up bright and early and I'm pretty sure my abdomen feels firmer already. OK, there's no visible six-pack yet, but eventually I think the muscles will become defined enough to push through the fat and displace it sideways.

Today I rode over 15 miles in the central Peak with friends. The mileage may seem modest, but the amount of climbing involved was extremely serious. Encouraged by yesterday's success, I ate only a slice of chocolate cake all ride along with three healthy energy bars. After the ride I avoided cake because I'd already had today's portion while on the trail and, instead, ate a bar of Green and Blacks - I ate the whole bar because I was still in credit for yesterday when I ate no chocolate at all.

I'm about to do another two sets of ten crunches and then eat a fish and chip supper. If that sounds extravagant, bear in mind that I am not drinking any beer at all today and had only three last night.

I hope that answers some of the naysayers. As you can see, my diet is realistic and, to my mind, very palatable, but is considerably less than I'd normally consume and MOST IMPORTANTLY I am already starting to see results.

I wasn't sure at first, but this guy is actually a satire king!

That's satire, not 'satay' you complete and utter baker's friend. 😉

I put the rice in a separate bowl to keep the main food groups apart from each other

You need to eat a dollop of raw pastry dough between each main food group.
This will keep them apart in your stomach, a bit like the wadding in a shotgun cartridge, otherwise they will all mix up inside you and you will have wasted the effort keeping them seperate on the table

I just started doing weights and stuff with my mates who have been doing it for a while. Quite fun when you're not in a gym by yourself. I don't want to get "ripped" or anything like that, but apparently having a bit more muscle helps to burn fat (which I need) and would like to start getting some definition on my arms/belly/chest, although the latter will take a while as they're still very fat! Total weight loss thus far is about 40kg but there's still a fair way to go.

We're following something called 5x5 which is 5 sets of 5 reps for one particular activity like squats etc. It seems alright and works well in pairs of 2.

For the abs, reverse crunches just about killed me!

'Shed fat', what exactly is 'shed fat'?

i believe it's Brant's new business - offshoot from ShedFire - he's going into sports nutrition for the real (world) man..... 😉

Ah, my coat - why, thank-you!
Doors over there you say - jolly good, ill be off then...

BWD - best of british!

I did some body-building a few years ago and had visible abs. It was the hardest thing I have ever done, and would never do it again (although was incredibly pleased with the results).
The last 6 weeks of dieting down involved absolutely no sugar, virtually no carbs, and nearly finished me off mentally. (Im still glad I did it though!) (Oh, and set after set after set of ab. exercises).
If you seriously think you can get visible abs by just cutting down on beer, cake and chocolate you are living in lala land. 8)

Edit...having just read your last post I realise this is complete troll/piss-take.