[Closed] STW Chub Club 2017

Dry January here, although it's enforced rather than voluntary (work). Trying and so far succeeding to stick to 1800-1900 calories per day, for a 2lb/week fat loss. 10 miles/day on the turbo. Unfortunately the scales here are possibly out of sync with the ones at home: 10lb loss so far, apparently...

Sounds like a mixed bag over the weekend, but I reckon that even being conscious of what you're putting in your mouth (even if it's rubbish) helps you eat less.

Which is what I told myself last night after I had a large glass of red and 4 ferrero rocher from the Christmas pile.

Jamie, I'm just so sad for you 😯 😆

20 minute of round-the-clock intervals on the rollers this morning. Only managed (nearly) two sets, it was brutal. My fitness is clearly 'not what it was' 😯

Jamie, I'm just so sad for you

I eat the wheatberries, so no-one else has to.

Today I am having a gluten and dairy free chicken tikka meal.

....living the dream.

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In conjunction with just about every female I know Mrs Binners is doing Weigh****chers (or Fat Club, as she calls it), so I'm in with a fighting chance. She's more willpower than me, so there will be stern looks if I weaken and suggest a takeaway.

She just posted up the following rules. I'm not sure they're all applicable to this thread, but here goes...

Fat Club Rules:

1. You'll wear the exact same clothes to weigh in every week - "I don't care how nice my new jeans are, denim costs lbs and I ain't sacrificing pizza all week only to have my weight loss sabotaged by some heavy fabric."

2. Likewise, if you have had a bad week mainlining chocolate, you'll spend an extra 10 minutes getting dressed in the morning trying to figure out which clothes weigh less. Yes it's f#@king freezing and it's the middle of January but I WILL wear that floaty chiffon beach dress that only weighs 100 grams.

3. There's always someone called Sandra who'll bore the crap out of everyone at group with a 20 minute sob story about how she's put on 3lb because she ate 20 sausage rolls at her cousin's wedding buffet, Again. STFU Sandra, keep it short and sweet, none of us have eaten before group and we're getting hunger/angry.

4. You will not eat anything at all before weigh in... even if it's at 7pm.

5. You'll be furious at your own body because without fail every week, you need a big poo as soon as you get in from class. Hello bowels, i could have done with this help before I got on the scales!

6. There's always someone in class called Karen who goes on 42 cruises a year.

7. You think the X Factor have good sob stories? Wait until you try and see someone justify putting on 2lbs at a WW class.

8. You will not be able to resist Instagramming your tea every night complete with point value - even though no one else knows wtf you're on about and your culinary skills mean that although it tastes fit, it looks like cat sick.

9. You'll have a speech prepared for when someone says, "Thought you were on a diet, should you be eating pasta?" - Well, ACTUALLY Dave..."

10. You've lost 3lbs, yessss! Time to celebrate with a chippy on the way home and a bottle of prosecco.

11. You will legit save all your weekly points and live on nothing but stir frys so you can down an entire bottle of wine on a Saturday night.

12. Points eaten during a hangover or from your fella's plate don't count.

13. Points you don't record in your food diary don't count

14. You've joined at least 3 times before and next time you join you just smile at the consultant like nothing ever happened and you totally didn't ignore the 10 'U ok hun?' texts she sent you last year.

15. Positive vibes only - never hate on anyone. Apart from that woman from group that actually LOST weight over xmas - the smug cow.

16. You did an internal fist pump when you found out Iceland started doing Slimming World ready meals. Because you was getting a bit sick of microwaving jacket potato and beans every day in the office canteen.

17. Every time mullerlight release a new flavour yoghurt you go out and buy 36 of them and get sick of eating them after 3 days.

18. You're the only person you know who eats curly wurlys.

19. No count/ F&H chips save lives.

20. You'll go out for a meal with all the best intentions but as soon as you're 2 glasses of wine in, your mentality is 'eat first, point later".

21. Actually, your mentality is 'eat first, point later" about most things. Don't tell your consultant.

22. You keep swerving your consultant's friend request on Facebook 'cos you can't be dealing with the guilt of her seeing pics of your Friday night Dominos feasts.

23. If it's 1 point for half a pack of something, and 3 points for the whole pack then obviously if you eat the whole pack and have a little gap of at least 5 minutes between halves then it's deffo only 2 points now.

24. Frylight is your best mate.

25. You've taken 'unlimited wholewheat pasta' as a personal all you can eat challenge at least once until you realise it's 'eat until you feel satisfied, not eat until you think you might pass out'

26. You'll turn on healthy foods you once loved. Avocado you big fraud, you told me you were all 'good fats' but for 9 you can PISS OFF.

27. Due to the huge amounts of fruit and veg you're eating you could probably legally declare yourself as a wind farm and solve the global energy crisis
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28. The price of fruit and veg compared to a Maccies and KFC makes you fume and you realise you've turned into your mum.

29. There's always one gang of women who always sit together in the same seats every week and you're working up the courage to get to group early and sit there because you wanna see the shit hit the fan.

30. When you get asked to do the weigh ins or the raffle you know you've made it into the upper echelons of the groups's social hierarchy.

31. You can't figure out why chocolate bars are decreasing in size but the point values are staying the same.

32. There's always a loud mouth in group who blames her weight gain on eating too many bananas.

33. You know exactly how many points are in every different alcohol without checking.
Group can sometimes feel like an AA session.

34. If you see a fellow member in the super market you automatically check their trolley contents on the sly.

35. If you see a fellow WW member eating out you automatically check their plate to see if they've chosen to be good or bad.

36. If you see your WW consultant whilst out for a meal or shopping you hide

I have eaten loads of bananas this week.

Fat Club Rules:

1. You'll wear the exact same clothes to weigh in every week - "I don't care how nice my new jeans are, denim costs lbs and I ain't sacrificing pizza all week only to have my weight loss sabotaged by some heavy fabric."

Binners and his missus are confirmed never nudes.

Always weigh yourself naked. As the diet gods intended.

Jamie, that looks quite tasty. Thanks for your wheatberry self sacrifice. Has anyone goggled WTF a wheatberry is yet?

Binners Rule #3 made me LOL

Just raided Lidl and came away with peppers, carrots, beetroot (cooked) and sugarsnap peas. Enjoyed the Yellow pepper eaten like an apple. Thinking is eating these raw will be filling and take up some bread and cheese stomach space?

Blackberry porridge for breakfast (258Kcal) and lamb tagine with quinoa tonight (430Kcal)

Unless you're eating about 1000cals during the day you're not eating nearly enough.

Result? your body will be panicking, and storing fat reserves, which is not what you want.

Still hoovering up Christmas goodies here 😳 but hopefully shaguary + more running will balance that out

Jamie, that looks quite tasty.

It was bloody lovely. If it didn't say it was gluten/dairy free then I would never had known. Managed the odd feat of having crunchy vegetables after microwaving....decent chunks of chicken as well.

As for wheatberries, I have decided there are just some things that man is not meant to know.

warton

Result? your body will be panicking, and storing fat reserves, which is not what you want.

No it won't.

Careful now, no arguing over what works and what doesn't and why, dem's da rules.

No it won't.

Yes it will.

Everyone else just skip forward to page 27.

warton

Result? your body will be panicking, and storing fat reserves, which is not what you want.

No it won't.

just a query, and not looking for an arguement, tis a genuine question

if thats the case how does the 5/2 work?

just a query, and not looking for an arguement, tis a genuine question

if thats the case how does the 5/2 work?

If I'm honest, I don't know - does it work, long term?

sorry for questioning peoples weight-loss ideas, and I am no expert. But, it's a fairly widely held view that if you start massively under-eating, and i would say 1000 calories is classed as that, your body goes into survival mode and will store fat and find other energy sources to burn (muscle)

happy for people to say I'm wrong, i don't want it to turn into an argument, and good luck to everyone trying to lose weight.

ps, this is an interesting article on diet [url= https://www.onnit.com/academy/12-week-fat-loss-nutrition-plan-part-1/ ]ONNIT[/url]

If I'm honest, I don't know - does it work, long term?

My wife's been doing it for about 18 months - she's keeping the weight off so far...

I never thought I'd see an ONNIT article linked here.

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5:2 - how does it work?

Acc to the 'science' because you eat normally on the off days, your body doesn't adjust to a massive cut in calories and hence doesn't go into survival mode. It's one of the cautions, don't think that by doing 600 cals twice a week and then trying to do 1200 cals the other 5 that you'll do better (equally doing 600 cals twice a week and 6000 on the other 5 also doesn't work)

https://thefastdiet.co.uk/forums/topic/food-thought-fast-day-starvation-mode/

Does it work long term?

After I'd hit target (and prob overshot a bit compared to where i wanted to be long term) I survived on a modified version for 2 years. I wasn't as strict on the 600 as i had been (bit more slack on portion control, but still well within say 800-1000/day on the on days) and some weeks would only do it for one day depending on mood and activity. If i felt weight was going back on, a couple of weeks of being diligent would check and reverse it.

It's only since depression and comfort eating that the weight's gone back on - 1.5 stone in broadly a year. Not a failure of the 5:2 per se, a failure of me in general. Without the black dog hanging around I can see no reason why i couldn't do modified 5:2 for 'ever'

your body goes into survival mode and will store fat

Unfortunately my body has been stuck on this setting for 20 years now 😀

Cheers for the responses and answers only reason I'm asking is that I have been logging everything (on mfp) just to see how I go and looking at yesterday for an example I struggled* to eat more than 1150 calories, and 'earnt'470 from gym work, my concern is that am I actually going to be doing more harm than good

*literally forced a paleo bar down last night as I felt I had to get over 1000, reason being I had been sub 1000 for a few days last week

To be fair, I would have to force a paleo bar down.

...and I eat wheatberries.

Warton - you may be surprised to know not everything we thought true about diets actually is!!

I'm following Dr Michael Moseley's 8 week Blood Sugar diet. 800Kcal per day, low carb high protein and fat, for 8 weeks is the full version, or you can 5/2 it as long as you eat "med style" low carb for the rest of the week.

Lunch today was 2 poached eggs, mushrooms & smoked salmon. I'm cooking chicken Korma and chickpea flatbreads as we speak!

Oh, and I've lost 7lbs in a week.

But is it sustainable?

Tonight is MTB night with the local lads, so will be interesting to see how my body will cope on reduced calories. I'm going to take it steady, and have some reserve low carb seedy flapjacks I made today as an emergency reserve. Not having a pint in the pub afterwards will be tough, and the chef does us a big free platter of chips too 🙁

have them. One day, particularly one with a chunk of exercise in won't make a big difference vs 11 or 12 of being good.

That's the mistake we all make, focussing on the 'bad' instead of the good.

Maybe. Maybe next week. Tonight is a bit of an experiment in how I can exercise on the diet.

been eating ok most of the time and commuted for the first time today to my new job and did about 15 miles today as went the wrong way for a bit... then crashed on the way home and gave myself some nice road rash on my hip, hopefully i've shaved enough off to help on the friday weigh in 😆

Getting a bit impatient with the fact that I've got a chesty cough and what feels like a strained rib muscle, so exercise is out as a precaution. Hoping that it's better enough to try a turbo session tomorrow night, as I'm itching to match my healthy diet with a healthy workout routine.

So, 2 hr mtb ride on 800Kcal was fine. Happy days!!

Jamie - my plan is to shift the weight fast over the 8 weeks, moving my body away from carb dependency, then shift to a long term low carb, eating strategy.

As for sustainable - is any diet strategy? Putting weight back on isn't the fault of the diet, surely it's going back to what you did b4?

Putting weight back on isn't the fault of the diet, surely it's going back to what you did b4?

Depends. Some diets aren't sustainable long-term (I had a friend who got ready for a motor racing season with a crash diet but was so extreme that his team made him visit the doctors twice a week for health checks) so it's inevitable to have some weight increase. If the diet is sustainable then you're right, it's bad habits creeping back in.

Talking about eating less than 1000 kcal a day, it's surprising how much you can eat if your goal is 1600 kcal and you eat the right stuff. My typical day -

Wheetabix and semi-milk for breakfast, mid morning goahead bar, one wrap with chicken and lots of salad for dinner, mid afternoon protein bar (on days I'm riding, fruit otherwise), and something like breaded cod, oven chips (125g only though!) and peas for tea.

That's not a bad days food really and I haven't been hungry at all.

By the way, 125g of chips is a pathetic amount when you see it on the plate! 😉

I could drop the wrap and mid morning and afternoon snacks to get towards 1000kcal, but I'd likely get hungry and eat something I shouldn't, plus I think it's better to keep my blood sugar stable and metabolism up by (healthy) snacking. That's what I'm going with anyway!

115.8kg this morning!

I'm down 2.65lbs so far. Hoping to keep this going now.

Started a 30 day Push Up Plan three days ago. Had no idea my upper body weighed so much / my arms were so weak!

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Started a 30 day Push Up Plan three days ago. Had no idea my upper body weighed so much / my arms were so weak!

I've got one of these sitting on the tablet, along with a core strength one and a leg one. I'm still summoning up the courage...

I built all the way up to 50 push-ups using my own devised 'one a day' program.

On Jan 1st, I did a push up

On Jan 2nd i did two.

On Jan 3rd i did three....

and so on - until i reached a day when i couldn't do the designated amount. Then i took one off (so say i failed to do 18, next day I'd aim for 17 - to allow time for a bit of recovery and repair) - and then start adding again. It took 3 months all but, but I got there.

(then I injured a shoulder playing tug of war with a vigorous puppy, and now i don't think I can do any. Maybe I'll try the 50 sit up challenge instead this year - starting Feb 1st)

Reminder that first weigh in will be Friday - but I'll send a reminder on the day. Just that you've all got 2 days for crash dieting* to show progress 😉

*don't crash diet specially,

**do crash diet if that is your tactic

On Jan 1st, I did a push up

On Jan 2nd i did two.

On Jan 3rd i did three....

Same but last nights 10 was starting to feel hard

also up to 10 Sit ups...

9lbs so far 😯

with a bit of luck and exercise double figures for Friday

Reminder that first weigh in will be Friday

Eeek 😯

So today

- 2 poached eggs, smoked salmon, mushrooms for lunch.
-Aubergine "lasagna" for tea.

Not bad for 800 Kcal. 8lbs down so far.

I find one of the best things one can do when losing weight, is to write a meal plan for the week.

You shop for what you need. No deciding what to eat at mealtimes etc.

Jamie - Member
I find one of the best things one can do when losing weight, is to do a meal plan for the week.

[b]Rapid weight loss Meal Plan - iDust Diet[/b]

Monday - Dust
Tuesday - Dust
Wednesday - Water & Dust
Thursday - Dust
Friday - Dust
Saturday - Curly Curly & Dust
Sunday -Confession

😆 ^^^^^

I've been keeping a food diary this week, if I lose weight on Friday I'll share it. No idea how many calories I've been eating in a day, I've just been eating less than I usually would.

Saturday - Curly Curly & Dust

Is that two separate halves of a Curly Wurly?

I had a bit of a shit weekend so I've stagnated. Made up for it with a fasted morning, egg lunch with green juice etc. Sufferfest tonight which will also help.

green juice

Sounds delicious.