It is on the Beeb today and was mentioned on Rugby Tonight on BT sport as well
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/29607431
Why was this a penalty?
Great stuff
Dont know but at a guess it may be deemed that he led with the shoulder/forearm a bit. Other than that it wasnt high and he wrapped his arms so it could maybe be simply the physicality of it that scared Wayne Barnes 😕
Lydiate, Roberts and Philips on their way back to Wales?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/29610121
@ijs - this is quite a quote (from your link) 😯
[i]Racing coach Laurent Labit told L'Equipe: "We have raised the subject with them. They have never really been that effective since their arrival."[/i]
@DezB - he may have thought it a bit high/leading with shoulder. As you watch it more often it looks hard but legit, the blue forward is crouching / ducking into it a bit which always make it look worse.
Be great if those three did come back to wales. Roberts to Blues, Lydiate to Dregs and Phillips... well he may struggle to get in Ospreys or Scablets and his ego is too big for the Dregs.
Fatty Armitage deal now looking unlikely. Shame, not for barf but for England.
Is Fatty Armitage that good? Do you want such a mercenary who tried to qualify for France and then wanted to come back to England.
@aa allegedly he asked the question, could have been to try and put some pressure on the RFU. I do wonder whether European Player of the Year at club level really translates into RWC ? I would think the Boks/Blacks and Aussies (EDIT Wales too) would fancy running at/around a pack with Steffon in it. He's a fine player but its been a long time since he's featured at that level, different game really.
Is Fatty Armitage that good?
I don't think we're going to find out. Yes, he looks good in a pack of superstars but most would. He was nothing special at LI or for England.
Do you want such a mercenary who tried to qualify for France and then wanted to come back to England.
Nope. He goes against everything SL is trying to do with England. He just wants to play international rugby like his team mates. Doesn't care who for.
My recollection is that he was never much cop for England and whilst I havent seen much of Toulon I would imagine my nan would look good behind that front 5. You certainly cannot imagine someone looking like that putting in a shift like Robshaw does. I could be wrong though.
I wholly agree. Even thinking of dropping CR for fatboy without seeing how he gets on in a normal team is pointless. England aren't the Toulon of world rugby.
He could play for Wales, we love a fat lad. Talking of which Rory Pitman playing for Scarlets this season where did he come from? Good carrier but hands like tits.
A_A - do you call the larger children who play rugby "fatty" too?
Your offensive shit keeps me off this thread.
Oh man up Princess.
Getting back to BlindMelon I agree I doubt the choke tackle going so wrong was intentional. Its still a dangerous shit negative tactic that has no basis in the rules of the game that I can see.
Generally it's not dangerous though, purely the defending teams way of forcing a turnover. Why do you think it's outwith the rules?
Because the defending team often drop the maul and then when it does collapse I dont see why all the people lay on the floor dont roll away. Also the fact that the guy being held up has usually been held round the neck even though the initial tackle was lower and legal.
Why would the defending team drop the maul if the attacking team have been held up? That's not the case in terms of a choke tackle. I think that being held up by the neck doesn't happen that often as the refs are always looking for it. Also any attacking team who have done their homework will be aware of the opposition using this tactic and plan to ruck the ball more and therefore should make the game quicker.
It also gave me one of the most memorable moments in rugby....
posted for no other reason than one of my best rugby moments also involved the Aussies!
Why would the defending team drop the maul if the attacking team have been held up?
to get the scrum further up the pitch.
Also any attacking team who have done their homework will be aware of the opposition using this tactic and plan to ruck the ball more and therefore should make the game quicker.
or just getting rid of a rubbish negative tactic like the choke tackle would speed the game up.
My favourite rugby moment of all time 😆
quite like this one too
Josh Lewsey is welsh!!
I saw an interview with rogers. Apparently he's never fully recovered from that tackle! Said its kills him when he goes surfing and does active stuff.
Lesley? Welsh? You can have him if we can have George north back!
That Phillips try was the one the ref got wrong isn't it? Used a different ball therefore no fast throw in allowed?
Same old Welsh, always cheating!
Same old Welsh, always cheating!
Indeed! I was hardly going to post a clip of Wale losing to australia for the 240 000 time was I!
Apparently rogers had to cut a hole in his surf board for the sticking out bit of rib to go in. Awesome tackle.
or just getting rid of a rubbish negative tactic like the choke tackle would speed the game up.
Sure get rid of lineouts and flankers as well and you will have a good fast flowing game, oh wait a minute 😆
Is the Lewsey tackle legal? Arms wrapped etc 😉
This is the best clip of all time, I remember it so well 😆
That game was brilliant. The way Jenks just kept chipping away keeping us in touch was amazing.
Even as an Ireland fan that moment stands out for me. I was always a big fan of Gibbs, I fancied myself as a fat centre but alas I never moved from the confines of the front row.
I remember watching that game on a wee 14 inch portable tv in halls at uni and was delighted. A few weeks earlier I was at Lansdowne when Eng humped us so it was the next best thing.
Dont call Scott fat the PC brigade will get angry.
Crap, too late to edit to big boned. Anyway I was talking about myself not Gibbsy 😉
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Bath to get Lydiate rather than Fatty Armitage is the rumour on anofher bored.
They're down to 2 back rowers due to injuries and a ban for Houston. That's it! No mores! Even talk of bananaman playing 8!
All Blacks do it again, Wales take note.
That was 81 mins of raw energy. If you can watch the Australian v's AB game do. I hope the English backroom staff will.
Australia coach has just fell on his sword.
That has got to hurt
Just back from the Sale - Munster game.
Fantastic afternoon, really thought we had a famous victory but fair play to a good Munster side to take it at the death.
Still the best game of the season from Sale, 1 to 15 put in a bloody good shift.
Bath can get ****ing Ritchie Mac, won't do them any good against Glasgow! 😀
Saints go down to Racing, can Tigers hold up for English clubs tonight?
Extremely proud of Sale tonight. Was expecting a 50 point kicking.
Sarries won of course
How poor have Ulster been. Giving it away to Tigers
