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I was very young when I learned that the people who banged on about common sense all the time were usually unpleasant and worth avoiding. I am not sure if I ever grew out of it. I know only too well where it gets you in a mountain navigation context. It is also a good guide to being parted from your bike and gaining some air time.
“Common sense” is not a thing
Strictly speaking it's a learned behaviour but those spouting about it tend not to recognise this subtlety.
Lack of learning is what enables the young new worker to cross the yard ignoring the walkways and then get crushed by the loading shovel or the reversing arctic (or any of a host of other dangerous things in a workplace).
Those managers that then blame them for a lack of common sense need it explaining with a 4 by clue that this was their failure to adequtely train and inform the worker.
"get crushed by the loading shovel or the reversing arctic"
If they can't see a polar region reversing then they deserve to be crushed.
if I bought shirts based on collar size you could get a ringmaster, two clowns and an elephant inside it.
Same, i needed shirts in 3 or 4 sizes depending on if i was being a roadie or an MTBer that year. And where i was in my training cycling. The largest size, which fitted closely round my neck had enough fabric round the waist that it could (almost) wrap around twice.
Thankfully i don't wear ties (ever) and rarely wear a shirt, so i don't care anymore.
Lack of learning is what enables the young new worker to cross the yard ignoring the walkways and then get crushed by the loading shovel or the reversing arctic (or any of a host of other dangerous things in a workplace).
Well, up to a point, yes. And almost everything can be classed as "lack of learning" but when people use the term "common sense" it's usually in cases where, for example, a workplace has marked walkways and large vehicles moving around and the young new worker wanders out into the middle of it all and gets squished instead of looking around, recognising the fairly obvious danger and the marked walkways and working it out for himself.
Granted the term can be (and is) over-used, but sometimes people need to be able to adapt to situations by themselves instead of having it taught to them. And yes, I guess the ability to adapt is learned to some extent, but any adult should be able to do this.
I think there is such a thing as common sense, however as above it's also an over-used and over-simplified term. Generally when someone does something through a lack of common sense, it's actually just being thoughtless or a lack of awareness. Everyone's guilty of this sometimes. Some more than others!
If they can’t see a polar region reversing then they deserve to be crushed.
You may want to have a think about that in a quiet room. It ill becomes you and the two who upvoted it
I chose very large vehicles because the inexperienced are not aware of the terrible visibility offered to the operators. See also amazed cyclists when the LGV blind spot is filled with cyclists that they can not see from the cab on demonstration days.
Unless one is properly informed, one doesn't know.
You may want to have a think about that in a quiet room. It ill becomes you and the two who upvoted it
I chose very large vehicles because the inexperienced are not aware of the terrible visibility offered to the operators. See also amazed cyclists when the LGV blind spot is filled with cyclists that they can not see from the cab on demonstration days.
A very large lorry, like an artic(ulated) lorry, rather than large like a polar continent...?
The subtlety of an extra c. Unless one is properly informed, one doesn’t know.
Strictly speaking it’s a learned behaviour but those spouting about it tend not to recognise this subtlety.
And the same managers can also drip on about human factors in the same breath.
Oh the ironing!
Going back a few days, @ossify posted his photo of the manhole cover, replaced skew-wiff so the white line delineating the parking space was consequently on the piss. I saw similar, here it is

How hard would it have been to get that the right way around?
A very large lorry, like an artic(ulated) lorry, rather than large like a polar continent…?
TBF the point still stands. Polar regions probably have a huge blind spot, and most people will never even have thought of this.
😉
An arcticulated lorry:
You may want to have a think about that in a quiet room. It ill becomes you and the two who upvoted it
I chose very large vehicles because the inexperienced are not aware of the terrible visibility offered to the operators. See also amazed cyclists when the LGV blind spot is filled with cyclists that they can not see from the cab on demonstration days.
Unless one is properly informed, one doesn’t know.
I c what he did there, I think you've missed it.
It actually does surprise me that you have time to maintain arguments elsewhere on the internet as well as here.
Bastard. 😁
I was very young when I learned that the people who banged on about common sense all the time were usually unpleasant and worth avoiding.
I don't want to bring up brexit again but yes, broadly you've got two sorts of people and the ones who drone on about 'common sense' are the same people who go "well, you can't say anything anymore because of political correctness / snowflakes / the gays / the blacks / wokeness." It seems like the harder you're obsessed with terms like "sense," the harder you're bereft of it yourself.
I saw similar, here it is
That genuinely disturbs me grate- uh, greatly.
How hard would it have been to get that the right way around?
Honestly if I were in a Position of Power when it came to putting manhole lids back in place I'd be sorely tempted to do that sort of thing for the sheer hell of it, in the sure and certain knowledge it'd get some subset of society frothing about it on the Internet.
Busy hotel at breakfast. People queuing to be let in to use the restaurant buffet.
Groups of people sitting at tables gossiping well after they’ve finished breakfast.
It’s a Holiday Inn on Salford docks, not a Hawaiian resort. Eat up and eff off.
That this is the thread I visit most times in a day.
I was very young when I learned that the people who banged on about common sense all the time were usually unpleasant and worth avoiding.
See also "Rule 1", implies consensus (decided upon by whom?)
I’ve just seen an article that states ‘queen’ Camilla will no longer buy new fur products…..no longer!!!!!
surely any sane individual hasn’t considered buying real fur for the last 25 years at least!
where do these people come from and why are they considered important?
In fact pretty much any media coverage of the monarchy makes me disproportionately cross.
LGV blind spot
There's blind spots and there's a problem with drivers not looking properly. Any LGV with true "blind spots" shouldn't be allowed to mix with vulnerable road users.
Tesco and putting sugar ring donuts in pink bags. These are usually for jam donuts and when in a rush, grabbing a pack only to open them at home to be extremely disappointed with a dry ring of jamless 'meh'
How hard would it have been to get that the right way around?
That should be in the Tate modern. I quite like it. Can you not appreciate the beauty of the myriad angles?
People who parralel park in the street at the end of a parking area and leave half a car length between the front of their car and the end line.
It's a truism wherever I've lived (so both places), it's always the smallest car which takes up the most room. BMW X5, not a problem. Nissan Micra, I could have got another two cars in there if you'd parked six inches further forward.
The way anything posted on social media about cycling safety, new cycle lanes etc is immediately drawn into a spiral of cycle hating bingo.... 🙁
The ****ing gov.co.uk website. Write things in plain language you absolute bastards! Also check your links to make sure the one on the second page you send me to doesn’t send me back to the first page. Putting me in some form of hyperlink purgatory! And when searching for commodity codes why does ‘Parts for a Nuclear Reactor’ always appear in the top 3 results. ****s.
Iain Duncan Smith
The **** gov.co.uk website.
I’m glad I’m not the only one. Someone much smarter than me will I’m sure be along soon to explain what’s going on, but it seems like they’ve made a deliberate decision to employ a design language and structure that literally no other website uses. I guess it’s supposed to follow usability guidelines or something, but the end result (for me anyway) is that it is absolutely impossible to navigate.
The way anything posted on social media about cycling safety, new cycle lanes etc is immediately drawn into a spiral of cycle hating bingo…. 🙁
Yeah. I got drawn into that big fat waste of time this week about some road improvement works in my hood. 🙄
Should learn to leave them to it.
gov.uk websites…
Yes, they following incredibly strong design standards. I’ve worked on some of them, they are designed to cater to absolutely anyone and as a result can feel a bit weird compared to other sites.
https://design-system.service.gov.uk/
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/government-design-principles
https://www.gov.uk/service-manual
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/style-guide
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/content-design
Through vs thru. For ****s sake, if you are writing marketing material to send out to customers and potential customers, why would you put what is essentially a spelling error in it?
People being allowed to drive their kids to and from the school gates and cause utter chaos.
Through vs thru. For **** sake
Isn't it an Americanism, like 'drive-thru'? It feels like something Webster would have come up with.
In any case, the shortening of already short words pees me off. "C U L8R!!" Unlikely if you persist in writing like an imbecile. 40-character limits on text messages went out of the window twenty years ago, you now sound like the old boy next door who still hasn't grasped what a metre is.
MS Teams at work. Not content with telling me still, 4 months after updating to 'new', that it is in fact 'new', it now tells I need to update to this new version, which, when clicking said update command, does 5 fifth of fudge all...
People being allowed to drive their kids to and from the school gates and cause utter chaos.
Schools really need a park & ride system. I'm the last person to be going "you can't do [something] any more" but attitudes have certainly shifted, there's a common perception that it's unsafe to let your offspring walk ten yards unaccompanied in case there's a former Radio 1 DJ hiding in the bushes or something.
When I used to walk to school the roads were quieter sure, but that's just self-fulfilling. It's like everyone at work taking a spoon from the kitchen and sticking it in their desk drawer because there's never any spoons. If you weren't collectively all selfish nob-ends this issue wouldn't exist. The only reason you feel the need to drop your kid six inches from the school gate is that everyone else feels the need to their kid six inches from the school gate, it's an artificial problem of your own creation. See also: fuel crises.
gov.uk websites…
Yes, they following incredibly strong design standards. I’ve worked on some of them, they are designed to cater to absolutely anyone
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 nobody, catering for nobody.
In gangster films where they torch a car.
Fill it full of petrol, light a Zippo and throw it in.
Just use a box of matches or light a bit of rag or something ffs!
What a waste of a Zippo 🙄
Re to Cougar, our house backs on to a primary school, it's two minutes walk to the gates, maybe three, none of the parents ever and I mean ever park in our street and walk the kids round, they all insist on getting as close to the school gates as humanly possible, it's total carnage.
We bought the house as it's close to the school we wanted our kids to go to and could walk them to.
I use thru because I cannot spell the full word - sometimes not even getting close enough for spellcheck to correct me
I use thru because I cannot spell the full word – sometimes not even getting close enough for spellcheck to correct me
Damn it Teej! 😃
New Sonos app, I appreciate the tidy up but it's full of bugs and has some how made the speakers not Sync..there's a delay of about 0.5 secs between them which is really bloody annoying
I have to go to the skip at least twice today, I used to like going, the feeling of freedom as you ditch a load of stuff you don't need.
Since the introduction of parking bays it's a bloody nightmare, I'm fine with this, even when I'm carrying over filled bags/buckets of rubble across the yard, its a more economical use of space.
The general population however, FFS just park in the bay!!! If even one of you go old skool and roll up to the unit youre chucking Nanas old carpet in it causes effing gridlock you absolute inconsiderate lazy chumps.